Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Mike Schwab
The object code blocks are written in multiples of 1K up to 32,760 bytes. There are also text blocks that are usually under 1K unless you have a lot of external symbols. A linkedit / binder / copymod will try to fill the rest of the track, down to a 1K block. The Advance Print Function libraries

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 May 2019 21:26:40 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Fri, 3 May 2019 02:15:44 +, David Spiegel wrote: > >>Hi Steve, >>You said: "... but the received wisdom is that all load libraries should >>have blksize=32K-8. ..." >> >>For optimal space usage, however, the BLKSIZE should be 27998

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 May 2019 02:15:44 +, David Spiegel wrote: >Hi Steve, >You said: "... but the received wisdom is that all load libraries should >have blksize=32K-8. ..." > >For optimal space usage, however, the BLKSIZE should be 27998 (i.e. half-track >blocking). > Not as I understand it. The

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Steve, You said: "... but the received wisdom is that all load libraries should have blksize=32K-8. ..." For optimal space usage, however, the BLKSIZE should be 27998 (i.e. half-track blocking). Regards, David On 2019-05-02 21:57, Steve Smith wrote: > Well, Greg Price explained why the

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Steve Smith
Well, Greg Price explained why the blksize issue doesn't arise in normal execution. In addition, PDSEs don't really have a blksize; that is faked up on the fly when BPAM or something similar is used. Program Fetch uses something like DIV or paging I/O to load program objects. For classic PDS,

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Attila Fogarasi
The Binder is not invoked by Db2 when executing your application program -- hence no error message and successful execution. Fault Analyzer is invoking the Binder to get debugging info about the load module as part of its processing for the prior problem. Other debugging tools handle this more

Re: Assembly JCL for tpx 5.4

2019-05-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 May 2019 15:44:14 -0500, Michael Cleary wrote: >If the product is installed with SMPE best practice would be to install the >exit via an SMPE USERMOD. > Not a bad idea, but I don't consider that necessary if the product doesn't come with an LMOD for that exit in the product loadlib

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Thanks to the many contributions to this thread, I think we have it (mostly) figured out. The key was identifying what changed on 14 April. No module changes. No JCL changes. But of course something happened that I didn't mention earlier because 'it could not be the cause'. What happened on the

Re: Peter Frampton and IBM

2019-05-02 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 1 May 2019 at 21:25, Phil Smith III wrote: > Those of you who were conscious should know who Peter Frampton is (if you > were and you don't, report to room 100 immediately for > remedial instruction). > > TIL that he's suffering from IBM: inclusion body myositis, a degenerative > disease

Re: Assembly JCL for tpx 5.4

2019-05-02 Thread Michael Cleary
If the product is installed with SMPE best practice would be to install the exit via an SMPE USERMOD. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: SMS ACS Routine Decompiler

2019-05-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
SMS trace is the only non pay for product I know Otherwise I only know about SMSDEBUG, which is not really a decompiler - but rather an enhanced trace for SMS code. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Mark Zelden > Sent: Thursday, May 02,

Re: Java no longer a free lunch

2019-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 May 2019 16:00:09 -0400, Tom Conley wrote: > >Thanks for that pointer Alan. Found this link in that presentation (WTW): > >https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/java-licensing-is-changing-and-you-could-be-affected/ > How does this affect Java on my (non-IBM, even Raspberry π) laptop, etc? I

SMS ACS Routine Decompiler

2019-05-02 Thread Mark Zelden
Has anyone on this list ever heard of or seen a decompiler for ACS object code? If so I'm hoping there is a newer / better version of it than what someone used in 2016. Background: I needed to make a STORCLAS SMS change on a very small seldom touched LPAR for my client. When I changed the

Re: Java no longer a free lunch

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Conley
On 5/2/2019 2:51 PM, Alan Young wrote: Phoenix SHARE session 23993 - Java Update has details on how it will not affect the mainframe and other details on how the mainframe JVM relates to OpenJ9. I think some of session's statements are somewhere on IBMs site but I am not recalling where at

Re: Java no longer a free lunch

2019-05-02 Thread Alan Young
Phoenix SHARE session 23993 - Java Update has details on how it will not affect the mainframe and other details on how the mainframe JVM relates to OpenJ9. I think some of session's statements are somewhere on IBMs site but I am not recalling where at the moment.

Re: Assembly JCL for tpx 5.4

2019-05-02 Thread Peter
That's great thank you so much. This will help me On Thu, 2 May, 2019, 10:41 PM Carmen Vitullo, wrote: > I have some also found in the install library > and the CB0VSRC library > > > > Carmen Vitullo > > - Original Message - > > From: "Peter" > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Sent:

Re: Assembly JCL for tpx 5.4

2019-05-02 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I have some also found in the install library and the CB0VSRC library Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Peter" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:27:29 PM Subject: Assembly JCL for tpx 5.4 Hi, Cross posted Does anyone have a sample JCL to

Re: Assembly JCL for tpx 5.4

2019-05-02 Thread Cieri, Anthony
I have some sample JCL in the TPX install library: Highlvl.qual.CB0VSRC(ASMUXIT) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 2:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Assembly JCL for tpx 5.4

2019-05-02 Thread Peter
Hi, Cross posted Does anyone have a sample JCL to assemble and Linkedit the TPX source code ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: Java no longer a free lunch

2019-05-02 Thread Mike Schwab
Java 12 released March 2019. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:08 PM Lizette Koehler wrote: > > I was not sure how this will affect the Mainframe and JAVA > > But I found this > >

Re: Java no longer a free lunch

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Conley
On 5/2/2019 1:10 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: Not at all. Anyone know how this would affect the Mainframe? Thanks Keep an eye on OpenJDK https://openjdk.java.net/. I expect this will make its way on to the mainframe in the not-too-distant future. Regards, Tom Conley

Re: Java no longer a free lunch

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Johnson
Not at all. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, May 2, 2019, 1:08 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: I was not sure how this will affect the Mainframe and JAVA But I found this https://www.aspera.com/en/blog/oracle-will-charge-for-java-starting-in-2019/ End of Public Updates for

Java no longer a free lunch

2019-05-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
I was not sure how this will affect the Mainframe and JAVA But I found this https://www.aspera.com/en/blog/oracle-will-charge-for-java-starting-in-2019/ End of Public Updates for Oracle JDK 8 Oracle will not post further updates of Java SE 8 to its public download sites for commercial use

IBM z/OS Basic Skills Update

2019-05-02 Thread Geoff Smith
The IBM z/OS Basic Skills in IBM Knowledge Center (https://ibm.biz/Bdzr8a) has been updated to add links to the latest technology and information on IBM Z. Links have been added to the top of major popular topics such as "What is a mainframe". We have also fixed links to content that was

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 2 May 2019 08:34:11 -0700, ste...@copper.net wrote: >In order to get around this problem, yay back when, I used a BUFFER >length keyword and specified 32760 or something like that on the first >DD statement. Then it didn’t matter which PDS was specified first. A long time ago, it was

Re: Library Server Being Replaced Clarification

2019-05-02 Thread Geoff Smith
Hi Ben. The Library Server site is being shutdown. We are planning a redirect to the new Archive site. Regarding downloads, IBM Softcopy Librarian (SCL) is the way to receive all the BookManager content. SCL downloads, the books, shelves, indices, extended shelves and pdfs. I suggest

Re: Bigotry against mixed case was Re: Upper case for ISPF and SDSF

2019-05-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Exactly; while it might be possible to implement a locale-dependent compare instruction, I can't imagine a business case. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Don Poitras Sent:

Re: Processing Partition organization type record

2019-05-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
It's possible that equivalent macros are available for current PL/I; there are definitely macros for entry, exit and condition handling; what I'm not sure about are the control block mappings for, e.g., DCLCB, FCB. IAC, it's certainly possible to separate out the [BQ]SAM code from the PL/I

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Since Fault Analyzer is supposed to be transparent, I recommend reporting that as a bug, but I suspect that the resolution will be a documentation fix for FA. What is happening is that Fault Analyzer, by invoking BINDER, uses standard access methods to read the load module, and therefore you

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread ste...@copper.net
I have been thinking about this. And what you said jogged my memory... In order to get around this problem, way back when, I used a BUFFER length keyword and specified 32760 or something like that on the first DD statement. Then it didn’t matter which PDS was specified first. Regards Steve

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 1 May 2019 23:51:37 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >So this is all absolutely true. The module *is* 32760 while the PDS *is* >19069-the ancient 3350 track size that was fairly standard for load libraries >in the Dark Ages. So what's the mystery? How on earth did the 13 April and >*all

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Phil Carlyle
Has anyone checked to see if the order of the JOBLIB/STEPLIB changed. If the first library has the larger BLKSIZE, then smaller subsequent libraries will have no impact. As for LPA, Linklist, etc., these have no bearing on JOBLIB/STEPLIB. BTW, what error is being received? PHIL CARLYLE

Re: Peter Frampton and IBM

2019-05-02 Thread Mohammad Khan
That does explain a lot although too late for those who have been infected :) On Wed, 1 May 2019 21:22:19 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: > >TIL that he's suffering from IBM: inclusion body myositis, a degenerative >disease that causes muscles to weaken over time but >generally does not affect

Re: Sort JoinKeys

2019-05-02 Thread Cameron Conacher
Thank you Kolusu. On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 6:09 PM Sri h Kolusu wrote: > > Maybe it makes no difference? > > Cameroon, > > For Unique keyed files it does NOT make a difference if you have the larger > file as F1 or F2. If your files have lot of duplicates, then we suggest to > use F1 for the

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Steve Smith
Well, if this was StackOverflow, I'd vote this answer up. Also, I think the U3003 may be what instigated the problem, as opposed to being one FA issued. sas On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 4:41 AM Greg Price wrote: > On 2019-05-02 9:51 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > > This is almost nutty enough to be

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >This is almost nutty enough to be a weekend post, but it's a live production >environment, so here goes. We have a prod job (batch Db2) that has run daily >for years. Suddenly on 14 April it started abending with this message from >Fault Analyzer: >IEW2541S 471A

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Greg Price
On 2019-05-02 9:51 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: This is almost nutty enough to be a weekend post, but it's a live production environment, so here goes. We have a prod job (batch Db2) that has run daily for years. Suddenly on 14 April it started abending with this message from Fault Analyzer:

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
Is this the PGM=CUA625? Or is it a dynamically called sub program? If so, do you know that this isn't the first time that the data mix caused it to be called? > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 4:52

Re: Crazy concatenation mystery

2019-05-02 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
April 13 was a Saturday. Did you apply any maintenance that weekend? Kees > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson > Sent: 02 May, 2019 1:52 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Crazy concatenation

Re: Validate SAN switch

2019-05-02 Thread Alan(GMAIL)Watthey
You could just try the various commands available to see what you get. D IOS,FICON D M=SWITCH(ss) D M=DEV(,(cc)),ROUTE=BOTH D M=DEV(,(cc)),LINKINFO=COMPARE For the D M=DEV. These are examples as there are a few options for various things so check out the manual. Note you must