Re: TWS replacements
To complement: there are several products from several companies. BMC ControlM CA ESP (now Broadcom) CA-7 IBM IWS aka TWS aka OPC ASG-ZEKE former BETA 42 Tidal Workload Automation schedule-in OPS/Jobmaster ActiveBatch JAMS Scheduler Stonebranch ... Note: some of the above products have only z/OS agent, while control and management are on other platform (usually Windows). At least some of them lack many important features. Prices may vary. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: (External):Re: TWS replacements
We converted from another product to TWS some years ago. It was a massive and lengthy effort just to arrive at a point similar to where we left. I don't know how much we saved on the s/w, but it provided an awful lot of employment. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2021 2:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: TWS replacements *** EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening links or attachments *** IMHO it would be hard to get something cheaper and not worse. Of course prices depend on contracts and your need may be satisfied with very basic tool. -- Radoslaw Skorupka (from new mail) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How to validate mount points for IPLs
Well, In my opinion there is no such tool or process. Few remarks: 1. Assuming you have such checker and just tested BPXPRM member. Few minutes later things may change - someone can delete or rename some ZFS. Or just modify BPXPRM. 2. "Prior IPL" is a little bit ambigous. Does it mean the system is down? Or it is up and you want to re-IPL it? For non-IPLed system you would have to access datasets from other (tech) system. It is possible, but a little bit hard for VSAM ZFS. Of course "before re-IPL" scenario is much simpler. 3. It is not matter of ZFS dataset names and typos. Or missing datasets. What about mount point? Mount point, a path ma be nonexistent - this can be checked before re-IPL. However mount point can be simply wrong. My advices: 1. Simply protect BPXPRM against hasty changes. It's obvious, just track all the updates. Comments are your friend. 2. The above simplify and reduce effort needed to check it manually. Just check latest changes, especially changes made after last IPL. 3. Keep it simple. Documentation would help. 4. One can create the following REXX script: read every filesystem name and list it i.e. using listdsi. Also read every mount point and check its existence in z/OS Unix. HTH -- Radoslaw Skorupka (currently unemployed) Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TWS replacements
...in all fairness, TWS (initially OPC, now IWS), provides all the support and solutioning as mentioned by Mark in his email. One of the major benefits of IWS (and this is just one of many) is that being an IBM product, it has the most prolific set of interfaces to the zOS environment including IBM tools/utilities and virtually all other environmentss that have some interaction with the batch environment. This also applies to 3rd party vendor tools that have some impact on JCL and/or scheduling. Lastly, IBM has an active process that can automatically (using tools) convert non-IWS schedulers to IWS. I have been in the JCL and scheduler environment since 1982 and have supported (in either technical pre-sales, actual use of, or conversion projects specific to scheduling software) and believe that IWS is the product leader in automated scheduling. Disclaimer, I used to work at ASG and am currently with IBM. Regards, Mitch -Original Message- From: Mark Jacobs <0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sat, Jan 23, 2021 10:32 am Subject: Re: TWS replacements ASG-Zeke is an automated job scheduler that dynamically schedules and dispatches events, and monitors every aspect of your job schedule. ASG-Zeke provides wide ranging functionality, including system command scheduling, automatic variable calculation and substitution, step-level condition code validation, workload balancing, schedule forecasting and simulation, SAF security, optional SMP/E support, simultaneous support for multiple JCL libraries, electronic vaulting capabilities, pre-built calendars, and other utilities. When you add ASG’s cross-platform agent(s), scheduling is extended to all the major platforms, including Windows, Linux, UNIX, OS/400. Disclaimer. I work for ASG Technologies. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, January 23rd, 2021 at 11:14 AM, IBM user wrote: > What are some of the less-expensive IBM Tivoli Workload Scheduler TWS (IWS) > replacements that are available? > > Solution needs to manage mainframe and remote Windows/Linux workloads. > > IBM User > > --- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMP/E and Isolating a CSECT within a load module
On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 04:15:28 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >What is the point of specifying an entry point on the END statement of, e.g., >a Bessel function subroutine? > Imagine an implementation where that Bessel function might be invoked by LINK. > >From: CM Poncelet >Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 7:11 PM > >...: otherwise >it's the assembler's "END " that is selected by the LKED. If the >assembler source END statement does not specify a label, ... > It need not be a label. Some forms of expression suffice: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.asma400/end.htm -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How to validate mount points for IPLs
Hi lizette,
For all the zos mounts, I use my service mount batch job as the template for
those in parmlib with modifications to syntaxes to fit. Everything else for
/tmp, ,etc, dev, and any other ancillary vendor, user file systems are
ieheyeball. There aren't many that would fail an ipl entirely so can be fixed
after you are up. There is the health check that was mentioned, but that only
calls out differences between what is in parmlib and what is actually mounted.
Hope this helps!
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I am not quite sure what technique or process I can put together to validate
the Mount points in BPXPRMxx prior to an IPL
SYNTAXCHECK only makes sure that I did not finger check
It does not say this will mount or not mount
And with z/OS and other products using lots of mount points - hand checking
is getting difficult.
Any ideas are welcomed.
Thank you
Lizette
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(personal) status update
To whom it may concern I just changed my subscription details - new email. Reason: My previous email is no longer available, because I no longer work anymore for my previous employer. Big change after 22 years and I have no experience in changing listserv account parameters. I hope I did it well. Now I don't have new company email, because I'm just looking for new job, but I think I will stay with this private account on the list. I'm sorry for off-topic noise, however I just to confirm it is still me, not hacked account or so. For those who sent me off-list: you will not get any answer from my previous account. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
