Re: IBM z/OS Management Facility 2021 Survey

2021-02-04 Thread Erin Yu
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Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread David Crayford
On 5/02/2021 1:32 am, Charles Mills wrote: TCP/IP certainly makes use of lots of UNIX services. Yes, and it goes both ways. I'm working a project right now with one of the original IBM OMVS developers and he told me that the BPX callable services wrap Comms Server APIs and then the LE C/C++

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 17:10:55 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Are there not occasional fleeting references here and there to "the Pascal >TCP stack"? > That had the notorious GIVESOCKET/TAKESOCKET, needed because prior to OMVS, descriptor inheritance was unheard of. Orthogonal concepts. I don't

Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
SAP Crystal Reports? Next release Crystal Ball Reports. It's Friday here... On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 12:47 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > Could end up with too many false alarms. > > I recall many years ago we ran a CA-Datacom MUF with a 64M region. Perhaps > once a month we'd get an S80A abend. >

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Gibney, Dave
VMCF and TNF may still be on your systems for the few remnants depending on the PASCAL stack API. It was ported out of VM and did not perform well either. Another factor which slowed the adoption of TCP/IP in the z/OS (them MVS world) was the IBM Communications group resistance. They had all

Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Could end up with too many false alarms. I recall many years ago we ran a CA-Datacom MUF with a 64M region. Perhaps once a month we'd get an S80A abend. I had a chat with CA and they said give it more memory. Our sysprog was reluctant and kept monitoring storage use and claimed that it was

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Charles Mills
Are there not occasional fleeting references here and there to "the Pascal TCP stack"? The first I personally wrote any z/OS socket code was around 2010. (I had an employee who wrote socket code for Z in the 90's but I am not the least bit intimate any more with the details. I seem to recall that

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Looks like OS/390 V2R4 (Sept 1997?) contained "A new TCP/IP stack, for applications using OS/390 UNIX System Services (formerly called OpenEdition) sockets". Prior to that was TCP/IP Version 3 Release 2, which I believe was based on a port of TCP/IP for VM (and written in Pascal!). Or

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread David Purdy
I installed the U of Wisconsin DARPA project TCP/IP VM/CMS stack around 1986-ish, and (as I remember) it was indeed ported to MVS.   IBM also rolled out their own VM/CMS stack version, and we had quite a jolly time converting.    UW code had enhancements that IBM didn't have yet, and vice versa. 

Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Charles Mills
I believe the Power Off function prevents all future failues. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 2:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any way to

Re: More freeform output using SORT

2021-02-04 Thread Gibney, Dave
Thanks. I think I forgot about the OVERLAY statement and then didn't find it during this RTFM. Looks like I can get what I want. Now, I'm par way through this work. With a partial SORT and a partial Rexx ... :) > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Feb 4, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > > z/OS FTP required a RACF OMVS flag in 2001 when I started submitting > dumps to IBM. > I have a vague recollection that in the early 1990s IBM provided a TCP/IP stack on MVS that was ported from VM, but sometime in the OS/390 era it was

Re: More freeform output using SORT

2021-02-04 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
AFAIR there is one of "Smart DFSORT Tricks" which address the problem. The book is old (20+ years), but you can find it: https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/$FILE/sorttrck.pdf Look for IDCAMS and "Delete all members of a PDS" This is similar example. (shameless plug:

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
I have a copy of that on IBM letterhead hidden away somewhere Jerry Whitteridge jerry.whitteri...@albertsons.com Manager Mainframe Systems & HP Non-Stop Albertsons Companies -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, February 4,

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Mike Schwab
z/OS FTP required a RACF OMVS flag in 2001 when I started submitting dumps to IBM. On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 1:37 PM Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 09:32:58 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > > > >I believe TCP/IP and several of its

Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
That made me smile - OS/VU I had forgotten about that one Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Yup - I'd rather anticipate and stop the failure than anticipate the messages from the failure Jerry Whitteridge jerry.whitteri...@albertsons.com Manager Mainframe Systems & HP Non-Stop Albertsons Companies -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette

Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Gibney, Dave
http://www.weathergraphics.com/tim/ibm.htm > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 1:53 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages > > So the problem is to

Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
So the problem is to know what events or message will occur and then prevent them from happening. The Omnipresence SysTem -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 2:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: zero-length PC section, the binder, and resulting AMODE/RMODE

2021-02-04 Thread Barry Lichtenstein
The binder will simply discard the "private code" (unnamed) CSECT (section), if it has text. It never gets incorporated into the module being bound, so it should have no effect on it. Binder has behaved like this since near the beginning (early 90's, around when PM3 format was introduced). The

More freeform output using SORT

2021-02-04 Thread Gibney, Dave
Given a list of Datasets with varying length dsnames: ZOS21D.ASM.AASMMAC1 ZOS21D.ASM.AASMMAC2 ZOS21D.ASM.AASMMOD1 ZOS21D.ASM.AASMMOD2 ZOS21D.ASM.AASMPUT2 ZOS21D.ASM.AASMSAM1 ZOS21D.ASM.AASMSAM2 ZOS21D.CBC.ACCNCMP ZOS21D.CBC.ACCNSR1 ZOS21D.CBC.ACLBDLL ZOS21D.CBC.ACLBDLL2 I easily get:

Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 21:59:22 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >W dniu 04.02.2021 o 21:40, Lizette Koehler pisze: >> >> As always something happens and management reacts >> >> We are looking to see if there is any tool that could trap any message or >> event on Mainframe and generate a daily report

Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 04.02.2021 o 21:40, Lizette Koehler pisze: List - As always something happens and management reacts We are looking to see if there is any tool that could trap any message or event on Mainframe and generate a daily report for the SYSPROGs to review to ensure zero failures

Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Lance D. Jackson
Lizette, Have you heard of Tivoli Enterprise Portal? > On February 4, 2021 3:40 PM Lizette Koehler wrote: > > > List - > > > > As always something happens and management reacts > > > > We are looking to see if there is any tool that could trap any message or > event on Mainframe and

Re: Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Didn't the HAL 9000 have predictive failure analysis? Of course that was in 2001 :) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 3:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Any way to anticipate failure messages

Any way to anticipate failure messages

2021-02-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
List - As always something happens and management reacts We are looking to see if there is any tool that could trap any message or event on Mainframe and generate a daily report for the SYSPROGs to review to ensure zero failures Lizette

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Joe Monk
tcp/ip on MVS far antedates OMVS... TCP/IP (FAL) was around in the MVS/ESA days (and OS/390 I know for sure). Joe On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 1:37 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 09:32:58 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > > > >I

Re: STORAGE KEY of loaded executable

2021-02-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Flushing the pipeline is a trade-off between complexity and performance. It's certainly possible to design a pipeline that can handle key changes without flushing; whether it's worth the real estate is something that your engineers have to decides. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 09:32:58 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >I believe TCP/IP and several of its "children" such as FTP server run as UNIX >daemons. > Some such children are recent adoptees. I believe FTP on MVS far antedates OMVS. (But was that an ISV offering? IIRC an Intel Fastpath(?) that

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 12:25, Joe DeChirico wrote: > Is there any information available on the relationship between TCP/IP and > OMVS? I'm not sure if I (or others) fully understand your question. But one way of looking at it is to say that any TCP/IP implementation is really just a Physical

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
The current TCP/IP is a Unnix application, which means that it must be dubbed. A Unix Zystem Services application can use the legacy MVS services. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: zero-length PC section, the binder, and resulting AMODE/RMODE

2021-02-04 Thread Peter Relson
Paul G wrote: Consider possible consequences when a program object is relinked of: XCSECT DCA(B) CSECT BDCH'0' END Assemble it; study the Relocation Directory; and weep. The assembly shows one RLD entry. I did not try to "study" it. -- When

Re: TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Charles Mills
What specifically? I believe TCP/IP and several of its "children" such as FTP server run as UNIX daemons. There is not so much of a classic MVS versus OMVS dichotomy as one might imagine. USS is a fundamental part of z/OS. It's not so much this "thing" that coexists with MVS as a set of

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: STORAGE KEY of loaded executable

2021-02-04 Thread Dave Barry
I dimly recall from decades ago a recommendation to run CICS in key 7. IIRC, it had something to do with aligning a buffer on a page boundary. Long obsolete advice, I'm sure. == Peter Relson wrote: >. > > >May I ask why you

TCP/IP relationship to OMVS

2021-02-04 Thread Joe DeChirico
Hi Is there any information available on the relationship between TCP/IP and OMVS? Thanks Joe DeChirico -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: Db2 sql error -805

2021-02-04 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I think I found the problem... In my ADCD system the are two versions of DB2 installed, but only V12 is running. The rexx looks at the linklist to see if SDSNLOAD is there, and if not, Find it in APF. SDSNLOAD of version 11 is first in APF... I'll remove the first one and try again. *| **Itschak

Re: Db2 sql error -805

2021-02-04 Thread Mike Bell
-805 means the version of dsnrexx that you are running doesn't match what is in DB2. either wrong DB2/DSNREXX or DSNREXX wan't installed. Mike On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 8:47 AM Binyamin Dissen wrote: > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:17:59 +0200 ITschak Mugzach > wrote: > > :>the DB2-L group seems to be

Re: RBINTCOD+1 == SVC Number

2021-02-04 Thread Joseph Reichman
I got it thanks > On Feb 4, 2021, at 9:34 AM, Peter Relson wrote: > > RBINTCOD is a 2-byte field. The fact that SVC's are 0-255 is unimportant > to that fact. > You should compare the 2-byte field. > > I don't know why, in general, you would require that the SVC-issuing RB be > a PRB

Re: Db2 sql error -805

2021-02-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:17:59 +0200 ITschak Mugzach wrote: :>the DB2-L group seems to be inactive, so i am asking here... :>I have a rexx program that calls stored procedures and gets -805. the :>complete details below. I followed the instructions in the manual and ran :>the SQLs recommended but

RBINTCOD+1 == SVC Number

2021-02-04 Thread Peter Relson
RBINTCOD is a 2-byte field. The fact that SVC's are 0-255 is unimportant to that fact. You should compare the 2-byte field. I don't know why, in general, you would require that the SVC-issuing RB be a PRB (checking RBFTP for b'000'). If this is a type 2-3-4 SVC, then information about the

Db2 sql error -805

2021-02-04 Thread ITschak Mugzach
the DB2-L group seems to be inactive, so i am asking here... I have a rexx program that calls stored procedures and gets -805. the complete details below. I followed the instructions in the manual and ran the SQLs recommended but haven't found the one with the correlation-id printed. I also ran