Re: Record description converter

2021-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 18:32:56 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >I have used it extensively. It is way better than nothing but it has some >severe limitations. > >Also it is only DSECT to C struct. The OP was looking for, and I am interested >in, any to any. > *If* you control the assembler source

Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte

2021-04-05 Thread kekronbekron
What would also be useful is a next/previous button at the top right & bottom right of each Doc page. 2 places because for pages that are long, one doesn't need to 'go to top'. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 7:38 AM, kekronbekron

Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte

2021-04-05 Thread kekronbekron
Works ok for me. I should say, I do like the generous use of IBM Plex and the look of the site. Hope they get rid of the feedback banner at the bottom soon. Or at least make it an easy to use set of buttons in the footer (where language selection is).

Re: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers

2021-04-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
Actually, the lack of a metalanguage is the norm except for assemblers; PL/I is an exception in that regard. Ada, Go, Java, Perl, Python, Ruby, Raku (Perl 6), Rust, etc., lack metalanguages. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
Keep in mind that the metalanguage for C and C++ is horribly crude; it can't do the sorts of things that make macro attractive in other languages. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Record description converter

2021-04-05 Thread Charles Mills
I have used it extensively. It is way better than nothing but it has some severe limitations. Also it is only DSECT to C struct. The OP was looking for, and I am interested in, any to any. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Record description converter

2021-04-05 Thread Peter Van Dyke
The z/OS XL C/C++ DSECT conversion utility ( https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=guide-dsect-conversion-utility) may provide a small piece of what you're looking for. Peter Van Dyke HCL Software On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 06:55, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>

Re: Accurate listing of IDRDATA to TRANSLATOR ID's

2021-04-05 Thread Peter Van Dyke
Hi. IBM File Manager has a 'View Load Module' function which can show the compilers used to create the CSECTs in a load module. Recent enhancements to 'View Load Module' provide the ability to search load modules for particular types of CSECTs. For example, you could search a library for the load

Re: Record description converter

2021-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:11:41 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: >I would like to see a set of two way conversion tools that would >convert COBOL copybooks to Assembler DSECTs and vice versa, SORT >symbols to and from Assembler DSECTs, PL1 structures to and from >Assembler DSECTs etc. If this were

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 10:23:58 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >#ifdef WIN32 >static const bool IsZOS = false; >#else >static const bool IsZOS = true; >#endif > Hmmm ... Anything that isn't WIN32 is z/OS. ∴ Linux == z/OS; (Granted, I'm unfamiliar with your environment.) But I once on a FOSS project

Re: Machine-readable flag for "development-only z/OS'

2021-04-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
Re: zOS.e, yes there was. CVTOSLV5 DCXL1'7F' BYTE 5 OF CVTOSLVL CVTZOSE EQU X'80' z/OS.e CVTZOSAS EQU X'80' z/OS.e CVTPUMA EQU X'80' z/OS.e Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key -

Re: Google V Oracle

2021-04-05 Thread Bill Johnson
Right after the decision, Google announced they are replacing Oracle financial software with SAP. I remember when Oracle bigots claimed it was going to own the IT world and replace DB2. About the same time “experts” said the mainframe would be dead by 2000.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

Re: Machine-readable flag for "development-only z/OS'

2021-04-05 Thread Charles Mills
1. I have my reasons that I do not wish to go into in public. They are valid reasons, and no, the reason does not involve bypassing any restriction. 2. I do not want to use the CPU machine type for the exact reasons you describe. I know IBM has done this with other models from time to time. I

Re: Record description converter

2021-04-05 Thread Charles Mills
I have given a lot of thought to such a product. I have experience with converting Assembler ADATA into a proprietary record layout schema. If anyone has ideas on how to pursue this please contact me off-line. E-mail address should be above. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte

2021-04-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
When I used Chrome from my employer's Win10 laptop all the google hits for "CICS PIPELINE SCAN" included this prefix in the google hit url: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/. . . and all of them transferred immediately to an IBM docs url and an actual informational page there, like

Google V Oracle

2021-04-05 Thread Robert Prins
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/18-956_d18f.pdf -- Robert AH Prins robert.ah.prins(a)gmail.com The hitchhiking grandfather - https://prino.neocities.org/ Some REXX code for use on z/OS - https://prino.neocities.org/zOS/zOS-Tools.html

Fwd: Group Ownership [of PL1-L]

2021-04-05 Thread Robert Prins
This was posted to the PL/I list today, I thought it might be useful to also post it here,just in case anyone here feels like volunteering. Robert -- Forwarded message - From: Dick Duggan Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 16:48 Subject: Group Ownership To: Hi all, I've been the sole

Record description converter

2021-04-05 Thread Clark Morris
I would like to see a set of two way conversion tools that would convert COBOL copybooks to Assembler DSECTs and vice versa, SORT symbols to and from Assembler DSECTs, PL1 structures to and from Assembler DSECTs etc. If this were available it would be possible to convert COBOL record descriptions

IBM snew DOC Web SIte

2021-04-05 Thread esst...@juno.com
.HelloAnyone experiencing problems with IBMs new doc site ?.For Example:If I google CICS PIPELINE SCAN , I am presented with many references to documentation with "pipeline scan"If any of these references invoke the old Knowledge Center, I am re-directed to a new IBM doc site..However I am

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
I think they have a letter from the estate for their use, but even that letter has got to be really old. Last time I mentioned XBOL, someone mentioned they were still running it on z/OS. (My client is z/VSE.) It's really a crappy language. All the variables are a combination of a letter and a

Re: Machine-readable flag for "development-only z/OS'

2021-04-05 Thread Dave Jousma
So, this question got me thinking. We have a few ZD instances running here. I was not fully involved with the group bringing it in, other than setting some ground rules regarding customization, and "who" would be supporting. My recollection though, is that the Terms & Conditions of ZD

Re: Machine-readable flag for "development-only z/OS'

2021-04-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
I just happened to be on our zPDT system, and here's a partial output of the D M=CPU command. CPC ND = z1090.Axx.IBM.02.usapfzpdt01p CPC SI = 1090.306.IBM.02. Model: L03 Something there might be usable for checking. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based

Re: Machine-readable flag for "development-only z/OS'

2021-04-05 Thread Steve Austin
IBM and vendors' will have model 1090 and customers' 1091, zPDT and zD respectively. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of PINION, RICHARD W. Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Interesting. I would presume your client received the source due to an escrow clause in the original contract. Any chance the original XBOL developer's estate would allow the product to be open-sourced for community development? Or is it abandonware at this point? Peter -Original

Re: Machine-readable flag for "development-only z/OS'

2021-04-05 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
zPDT shows a CPU model number of 1090. Perhaps you could use that? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 1:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Machine-readable flag for "development-only z/OS' [External

Machine-readable flag for "development-only z/OS'

2021-04-05 Thread Charles Mills
I know IBM sells z/OS licenses that are for development only, such as the Z Development and Test Environment. Is there a machine-readable flag that indicates that a z/OS instance is development only? Would it be possible to write an app that, just as an example, refused to run in such an

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Charles Mills
> But IMHO none easy to learn or use. I am generally not a fan of meta languages at all. I think writing programs is hard enough, without having to write two effective programs: one that runs at compile time and one that runs at run time. In my C++, which is now my primary language, I eschew

Re: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers

2021-04-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
There are lots of text processing languages, some general purpose and some, e.g., XSLT, intended for specific types of text files. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Oops. Yes, Knuth not Wirth. Agreed that meta-language that is close to the base language is the easiest to learn and use. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 1:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
> Probably also Wirth's "literate programming" suite, TeX I think it is called. Two different things, both by Knuth. Wirth was ALGOL W, Pascal and PL360. > But IMHO none easy to learn or use. LaTeX, based on TeX, may not be as easy as GML and SCRIPT, but it's not that hard to learn and it does

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
> I understand that BAL had some of that unification; lost in subsequent > assemblers which distinguish EQU from SETA. BAL didn't have any metalanguage at all. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
I am helping support a customer that has XBOL which generates COBOL. The original developer has passed away, but my client has the source. We have had to make changes for 'gone' COBOL verbs and such. I don't think CA's MetaCobol is currently marketed. I talked to them several years ago about

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:30:53 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >True. There is m4 in *ix systems and going back a long time there was ML/1 (I >think there was an academic book published on that one, I think I have a copy >somewhere around here). Undoubtedly others I do not know of or

Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
True. There is m4 in *ix systems and going back a long time there was ML/1 (I think there was an academic book published on that one, I think I have a copy somewhere around here). Undoubtedly others I do not know of or remember. Probably also Wirth's "literate programming" suite, TeX I think

Re: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers

2021-04-05 Thread Charles Mills
Aren't there "generic" meta languages: meta languages that may be used to generate any sort of text, including source code for most any language? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent:

Re: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers

2021-04-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
True for the language itself, but at least one ISV addressed that lack -- the MetaCOBOL product. I have forgotten who the original vendor ISV was - maybe ADR? -- but I think it now resides somewhere in the CA / Broadcom universe. IMHO PL/1 (and no doubt the PL/X internal IBM language from the

Re: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers

2021-04-05 Thread Charles Mills
The literal answer to your question is COPY. Assembler COPY is completely the analog of COBOL COPY. Assembler COPY is less powerful than COBOL COPY: there is no COPY REPLACING in assembler. OTOH, Assembler has macros, which are like COPY but much, much more powerful. I am going to go out on

Re: Low softcapping on high capacity CEC

2021-04-05 Thread Steve Emge
> I appreciate the help and suggestions. And, if SAS was the only culprit, I'd > work at isolating SAS. . . . As a side note, there is a very bad performance defect [as designed] with SAS ODS Excel on z/OS. There is very significant CPU consumption with creation of large ODS Excel documents

Re: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers

2021-04-05 Thread Ramsey Hallman
Warren, that depends slightly. Put a member in some MACLIB. If it is truly a copybook, then COPY member (not in column 1, I usually put COPY in 10 and member in 16). If it is truly a macro, then just specify the name, like IHAPSA DSECT=YES and it will expand (again not in column 1). Ramsey

Re: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers

2021-04-05 Thread Warren Brown
Hello, I've been away for a while.  What is the assembly language equivalent for a COBOL copybook? Thanks, Warren  On Monday, March 29, 2021, 11:08:43 AM EDT, Wendell Lovewell <01e9c0ee0673-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hello all. Does anyone know if Dr Ehrman's excellent

Re: z/OS lifecycle

2021-04-05 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Is this the page you're looking for? (mind the wrap) https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=dd=sm=ShopzSeries=897/ENUS5650-ZOS Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

Websphere for z/OS

2021-04-05 Thread Schneck, Glenn
Good morning. I am not sure if this is the appropriate list but I didn't really see one for Websphere. I have an error coming out at startup where the system is looking for a .java directory and can't find it in the location identified in a RACF error message (MKDIR command). However there

Re: [External] Re: No file permissions or super user authority for executing a shell script

2021-04-05 Thread Pommier, Rex
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 8:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: No file permissions or super user authority for executing a shell script On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 13:26:07

Debugging "A high error rate was detected on the Optical Link network." HMC alert

2021-04-05 Thread Christian Svensson
Good day, Recently I have been getting these kinds of alerts from my HMC. It all started when I connected an old DS6800 and the details are: Node 1 Machine: 2498-B40 Serial: IBMCA107312B Physical Interface: 6620 Logical Interface: 0020 Node 2 Machine: 1750-511 Serial: IBM13715 Physical