Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-15 Thread kekronbekron
Not on anyone's side. Just a reminder as to where it started - "Yours included?", and whether it was necessary. - KB --- Original Message --- On Friday, September 15th, 2023 at 21:29, Michael Oujesky wrote: > It appears it is well past time to remove Bill from IBM-MAIN. > > > >

Re: Why it's important to take Seymour's advice

2023-09-15 Thread Michael Stein
On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 06:16:59PM -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: > I did schedule the irb in the ikjeft01 TCB against Seymour's advice > for a return code of zero from schedirb There are likely many ways to do something like what you are trying to do and the IRB idea likely wasn't close to the

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-15 Thread g...@gabegold.com
You could also incorrectly "tell" that I didn't have a college degree. You have a talent for gratuitous insults and an obsession with starting and then arguing about wild digressions from whatever was the topic at hand. AI to assembler language to system programming demographics is quite the

Re: SDB (was: I have an Idea for ISPF...)

2023-09-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 23:52:23 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >>> What's the default DSORG? Does SDB not respect that? I've long trusted >>> SDB. > >SDB is supported foD DSORGs of PS and PO for DASD and tape datasets. > Also for UNIX and JES. I know because at the advent of SDB REXX removed

Re: SDB (was: I have an Idea for ISPF...)

2023-09-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> What's the default DSORG? Does SDB not respect that? I've long trusted SDB. Gil, SDB is supported for DSORGs of PS and PO for DASD and tape datasets. Thanks, Kolusu -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

SDB (was: I have an Idea for ISPF...)

2023-09-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 23:25:02 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >>> Is there reason not to use BLKSIZE=0, which has been preferred for over a >>> decade (but may not work with COBOL.) > >You can use BLKSIZE=0, but also code DSORG=PS , so that SMS calculates the >Optimum Blksize based on the LRECL >

Re: LISTSERV Trivia: Deleting drafts?

2023-09-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 09:21:45 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: >On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 15:21:55 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >>I use the WWW interface to post to IBM-MAIN. At times it tells me I have >>lingering drafts. Each shows a trashcan icon. Clicking it usually fails >>or causes a window hang.

Re: I have an Idea for ISPF...

2023-09-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> Is there reason not to use BLKSIZE=0, which has been preferred for over a >> decade (but may not work with COBOL.) Gil, You can use BLKSIZE=0, but also code DSORG=PS , so that SMS calculates the Optimum Blksize based on the LRECL Thanks, Kolusu

Re: I have an Idea for ISPF...

2023-09-15 Thread Mike Schwab
Still recommended for z/OS 2.3. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=performance-preallocate-ispf-temporary-data-sets-vio On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 6:11 PM Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 22:47:49 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: > > >

Re: I have an Idea for ISPF...

2023-09-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 22:47:49 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: > >//ISPCTL0 DD UNIT=SYSVIO,SPACE=(CYL,(10,2)), >// DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=800) > Is there reason not to use BLKSIZE=0, which has been preferred for over a decade (but may not work with COBOL.) (At times I've published

Re: I have an Idea for ISPF...

2023-09-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> The reason is because FTOPEN TEMP creates the file name using an ISPF "CNTL" >> file, which follows a certain naming format. For example: >> userid.lpar.SPFTEMPn.CNTL, where "n" is the logical session number. In a >> stacked session it is still the same session number, hence there's a naming

Why it’s important to take Seymour’s advice

2023-09-15 Thread Joseph Reichman
Seymour First let me wish you a good year I did schedule the irb in the ikjeft01 TCB against Seymour’s advice for a return code of zero from schedirb However the TMP Estae issued an SDUMP I guess it didn’t like me scheduling an irb in its TCB Thanks

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-15 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Getting back on-topic,...  AI may easily surpass humans in the ability to analyze and deduce conclusions from a large amount of data and propose actions -- it already has in a number of areas.  One problem that arises in that there is a considerable amount of data loose in the real world that

Re: Generate a data set with record numbers?

2023-09-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> The question is, what's the simplest way to do this with a *standard* z/OS >> utility (i.e. that comes with z/OS), or with a standard sort product (e.g. >> DFSORT or SyncSort), where it is all in a self-contained job? Michael, DFSORT can generate the sequenced records quite easily. Use the

Re: Generate a data set with record numbers?

2023-09-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 20:55:21 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >Can you run the shell script from JCL? > Probably as STDENV to BPXBATCH. Simpler as STDIN to COZBATCH or AOPBATCH, but those aren't base z/OS utilities. >-Original Message- >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Friday, September 15,

Re: Generate a data set with record numbers?

2023-09-15 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 20:19:32 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: For 80-byte records: //DG EXEC PGM=IEBDG //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //OUTDDDD DSN=USERID.IEBDG.DATA,DISP=SHR //SYSINDD * DSD OUTPUT=(OUTDD) FD NAME=REC,LENGTH=7,STARTLOC=1,PICTURE=7,'RECORD ' FD

Re: Generate a data set with record numbers?

2023-09-15 Thread Mark Naylon
You can run the below in batch and point systsprt to disk /* REXX */ do x = 1 to 100 Say "RECORD " || X End -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Generate a data set with record numbers?

2023-09-15 Thread Retired Mainframer
Look up the SEQNUM operand in your sort reference -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Friday, September 15, 2023 1:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Generate a data set with record numbers? I want to generate a data set

Re: Generate a data set with record numbers?

2023-09-15 Thread Schmitt, Michael
Can you run the shell script from JCL? I should have made it clear I need to have the JCL generate the data set each time it is run. If I just wanted to do it one time, I would just use ISPF Edit: 1. NUM ON 2. type "Record" 3. Repeat 999 4. NUM OFF 5. Shift the sequence numbers Meanwhile I

Re: Generate a data set with record numbers?

2023-09-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 20:19:32 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >I want to generate a data set that has the record number on each line, such as: > >RECORD 1 >RECORD 2 >RECORD 3 > A shell solution: #! /bin/sh +x R=0 while R=$(( $R + 1 )); [ 10 -ge $R ] do echo "Record $R" done I'm confident

Generate a data set with record numbers?

2023-09-15 Thread Schmitt, Michael
I want to generate a data set that has the record number on each line, such as: RECORD 1 RECORD 2 RECORD 3 Or RECORD 1 RECORD 2 RECORD 3 Perhaps I want to generate 1,000 records. Or 10,000. The question is, what's the simplest way to do this with a *standard* z/OS utility (i.e.

Re: EXTENDEDALIAS support

2023-09-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 07:38:33 -0700, Tom Sims wrote: >Can EXTENDEDALIAS support be enabled "on the fly," with no other changes >in an existing BCS (V2R2+)? > >What, if any, are the pitfalls, roadblocks, pre-reqs? > For example, in

Re: EXTENDEDALIAS support

2023-09-15 Thread Tom Marchant
As of z/OS 1.13 you can issue: F CATALOG,ENABLE(EXTENDEDALIAS) "when all systems in the sysplex are z/OS V1R13 or greater." -- Tom Marchant On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 07:38:33 -0700, Tom Sims wrote: >Can EXTENDEDALIAS support be enabled "on the fly," with no other changes >in an existing BCS

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-15 Thread Ituriel do Neto
I don't believe we are having this kind of discussion here. Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em sexta-feira, 15 de setembro de 2023 às 15:34:14 BRT, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> escreveu: Are you that naive? Ever been

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-15 Thread Bill Johnson
Are you that naive? Ever been to Share? The current makeup of mainframe systems programmers is 65% white, 15% Asian, 9% Hispanic & 5% African American. Factoring in most of the heavy posters are over 50, the demographics are even more white since almost all systems programmers who got into IT

Re: SORT INCLUDE problem

2023-09-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> Now, my question is, is there a way to do this with only one step and >> reading the input file only once? Jack, Here is 1 step JCL that would match the STG with CICS records the type 0404 records from the input file. Note that we can additional functionality if you need after the match

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
Only in your fantasy world is it possible to tell the skin color of an e-mail poster whom you have never met. I have you reason to believe that your antagonists are mostly White, and no reason to believe your implicit claim not to be. For all I know, you might be a klan member lying about his

I have an Idea for ISPF...

2023-09-15 Thread Schmitt, Michael
Some years ago I reported a problem in ISPF to IBM: in certain cases, the ISPF member list SRCHFOR command would fail with a cryptic error: Message id: ISRS083 Short message: Allocation error Long message: Allocation error on "statements/profile" data set. This was just one case of a problem

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-15 Thread Bill Johnson
So no problem with his attack on me, but I retaliate and it’s banning time. This is a white frat boy cult site. Nobody dares challenge the hierarchy. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, September 15, 2023, 12:00 PM, Michael Oujesky wrote: It appears it is well past time to remove

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-15 Thread Michael Oujesky
It appears it is well past time to remove Bill from IBM-MAIN. At 02:26 PM 9/14/2023, Bill Johnson wrote: It's already passed yours. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 14, 2023, 3:22 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Yours

Re: SORT INCLUDE problem

2023-09-15 Thread Jack Zukt
Hi Kolusu, Thank you very much for your input. The input file already is a subset of 0404 records, and the SUM FIELDS=NONE was the culprit. Once again the trouble come from copying a previously used JCL and not cleaning it properly. Now, if you will not mind, I have another question regarding

EXTENDEDALIAS support

2023-09-15 Thread Tom Sims
Can EXTENDEDALIAS support be enabled "on the fly," with no other changes in an existing BCS (V2R2+)? What, if any, are the pitfalls, roadblocks, pre-reqs? Thanks in advance, Tom Sims Trident Services, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: SORT INCLUDE problem

2023-09-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>> I am using for the INPUT a subset of a type 0404 records from a IRRDBU00 >>> output file. In the first step I am crating two files with Jack, Not clear if you still need help , but the INCLUDE COND does not have the include for type 0404 records, unless you already filtered your input.

Re: Building AMODE 31 Assembler DLL

2023-09-15 Thread Tom Marchant
I see that no one has offered any help with this yet. Perhaps if you were to tell us where you looked for information it would help someone who knows more than I do to point you in the right direction. I see that there is a chapter on building and using DLLs in the LE programming guide. I

Re: SORT INCLUDE problem

2023-09-15 Thread Jack Zukt
Ok, I found the problem (I think) It was probably due to the "SUM FIELDS=NONE" statement Best wishes Jack On Fri, 15 Sept 2023 at 10:42, Jack Zukt wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to find a RACF dataset profile for which two different groups > have ALTER access. > I am using for the INPUT a subset

SORT INCLUDE problem

2023-09-15 Thread Jack Zukt
Hi, I am trying to find a RACF dataset profile for which two different groups have ALTER access. I am using for the INPUT a subset of a type 0404 records from a IRRDBU00 output file. In the first step I am crating two files with the dataset profiles in which the groups have ALTER authority:

Re: Free SMPE product to just practice

2023-09-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
I’ve seen some good suggestions. Also, there are several no additional license charge products available from IBM for z/OS than you can order. Here are some examples: 5655-UA1IBM Semuru Runtime Certified Edition for z/OS 5655-PYT IBM Open Enterprise Python for z/OS