Re: How turn on GSK trace for batch job that is controlled by PAGENT?

[Brian Westerman]

There are two spaces that need to be there to make this work the GSKSRVR and 
CTWTR.  You probably didn't get CTWTR started, (that's the part that actually 
writes the data).  Make sure you have the JCL for both in proclib. (and the 
RACF stuff for them).

The sequence is:

s GSKSRVR

TRACE CT,ON,COMP=GSKSRVR,PARM=CTGSKON   

run the test

TRACE CT,OFF,COMP=GSKSRVR

TRACE CT,WTRSTOP=CTWTR

then submit something like this job to print the trace records:
//jobcard
//*
//*-   
// EXPORT SYMLIST=*
// SET TRACEDSN=BRIANW.CTRACE1 <-- MODIFY to the CTWTR 
dataset you created
//*-   
//GSKTRACE EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M 
//STEPLIB DD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MIGLIB   
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=*   
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=*   
//SYSPROC  DD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBLSCLI0 
//IPCSPARDD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.PARMLIB  
//DD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB  
//IPCSTOCDD   SYSOUT=*   
//IPCSDDIR   DD   DISP=SHR,DSN=BRIANW.DDIR   <-- your DDIR dataset  
  
//* CTRACE COMP(SYSTCPDA) FULL ALL 
//SYSTSINDD   *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY  
 IPCS NOPARM   
 SETDEF DA('')
 DROPD 
 CTRACE COMP(SYSTCPDA) FULL ALL
// 

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Re: IPCS: Can ADPLSACC Service code access 64 bit storage

[Joseph Reichman]

use storage map service 

Thank you 

> On Oct 7, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Peter Relson  wrote:
> 
> I think that a better subject/question (accompanying that with information 
> about what you tried) would have been:
> 
> In IPCS, how do you access 64-bit storage? I tried using ADPLSACC and that 
> didn't seem to work with the options that I used which were 
> 
> Some code I have seen uses BLSRESSY with ABITS=64 to define an initialized 
> area, copying that to a dynamic area, filling in that area with such info as 
> the length and address of the area to be accessed (when using ABITS=64, the 
> address field is 64-bit), then calling ADPLESRV such as this:
> CALL ADPLESRV(ABDPL,ADPLSSYM,XSSP)
> where the XSSP (defined by BLSRXSSP) has such information as the address of 
> the target buffer.
> 
> Peter Relson
> z/OS Core Technology Design
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Re: Where is the PAGENT MODIFY command documented?

[Charles Mills]

Thanks! I had searched System Commands on 'PAGENT' and got no hits.

CM

On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 17:03:29 -0500, Steve Horein  wrote:

>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=command-modify-policy-agent

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Re: Where is the PAGENT MODIFY command documented?

[Steve Horein]

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=command-modify-policy-agent

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 4:41 PM Charles Mills  wrote:

> I know PAGENT accepts MODIFY because I have used F PAGENT,REFRESH. And a
> MODIFY error is documented here:
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=messages-ezd1583i.
>
> But where is PAGENT's MODIFY command documented?
>
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Re: Where is the PAGENT MODIFY command documented?

[Gadi Ben-Avi]

I looked here 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=applications-policy-based-networking.
No other commands are mentioned.

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Subject: Where is the PAGENT MODIFY command documented?

I know PAGENT accepts MODIFY because I have used F PAGENT,REFRESH. And a MODIFY 
error is documented here: 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=messages-ezd1583i.

But where is PAGENT's MODIFY command documented?

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Where is the PAGENT MODIFY command documented?

[Charles Mills]

I know PAGENT accepts MODIFY because I have used F PAGENT,REFRESH. And a MODIFY 
error is documented here: 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=messages-ezd1583i.

But where is PAGENT's MODIFY command documented?

Charles

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How turn on GSK trace for batch job that is controlled by PAGENT?

[Charles Mills]

I am trying to get a GSK trace for a batch FTP job, where PAGENT AT-TLS 
controls the TLS connection. 

I follow the example here 
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/how-do-you-collect-ssl-trace-using-batch-job 
but no trace data is produced. I am guessing that is because of PAGENT AT-TLS. 
(The example is from 2015.) Can anyone confirm or deny?

So how DO I get a GSK trace of a job that uses PAGENT-controlled TLS?

I see @Colin's discussion here 
https://colinpaice.blog/2022/05/31/trace-pagent-and-at-tls/ but for obvious 
reasons I would just as soon not (a.) take down PAGENT and restart it two or 
more times; and (b.) trace all PAGENT AT-TLS sessions, not just mine.

Or should this work and I am just doing something stupid?

Charles

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Re: Israel

[Seymour J Metz]

I'm not, but one of my daughters is visiting her fiancee's family in Rishon 
LTzion. Both I and my wife have mishpachah in Israel. I don't know any of the 
victims, but every death is traumatic.


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Re: Israel

[Seymour J Metz]

I hold dual citizenship. Needless to say I've been following the news,

If I has the option I'd donate blood to MDA, but these days they screen for 
cardiac conditions, even when they're minor.

ישא ה' פניו אליך וישם לך שלום


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Afaik he is a us citizen.
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> Pretty sure Shmuel lives in the US.
>
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> > On Oct 8, 2023, at 12:03, Itschak Mugzach <
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> > No, but I afaik he lives in a safe area in Israel.
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Re: Israel

[Lionel B Dyck]

Prayers for the peace of Jerusalem and all Israel.

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 3:35 PM Binyamin Dissen 
wrote:

> Thanks for the concern. I live in Jerusalem. There were air raid sirens,
> and I
> heard some bombs, but praise G-d I am OK.
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Re: Israel

[Binyamin Dissen]

Thanks for the concern. I live in Jerusalem. There were air raid sirens, and I
heard some bombs, but praise G-d I am OK.

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Re: Israel

[Itschak Mugzach]

Afaik he is a us citizen.
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> Pretty sure Shmuel lives in the US.
>
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> > On Oct 8, 2023, at 12:03, Itschak Mugzach <
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> > No, but I afaik he lives in a safe area in Israel.
> >
> > ITschak
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Re: Israel

[Dave Beagle]

Pretty sure Shmuel lives in the US.


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> On Oct 8, 2023, at 12:03, Itschak Mugzach 
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> No, but I afaik he lives in a safe area in Israel.
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Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

[Michael Oujesky]

Processing date from control card input is endemic to the financial 
industry, not just banks.


I believe it stems from the fact that "daily" processing occurs after midnight,

Michael


At 11:08 AM 10/8/2023, Paul Gilmartin wrote:


On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 22:30:52 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

>To be honest I consider date-related variables as pooor when
>compared to batch scheduler features, especially ControlM (it is not
>advertisement, just opinion).
>
You worked for a bank.

I had a co-worker who had worked for a bank.  He told me that
certain reports were legally required on certain dates.  Failure
to meet a production window would not avoid a penalty.

To avoid the risk, he read the report date from a control record rather
than using the system date facility.  The readers never knew.

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Re: Israel

[Itschak Mugzach]

No. The concert planned to Saturday night in Tel Aviv. The large civilian
event in the Negev was a nature party with 3,000 participants, some of them
are foreign citizens. So fat we count more than 700 death people, most of
them civilians: children, woman, old people. Some families were completely
killed.
I've got many emails and messages from friends and partners around the
world, includes muslins, that supports Israel.

ITschak

בתאריך יום א׳, 8 באוק׳ 2023 ב-20:27 מאת Mike Schwab :

> The attack included a concert with International guests.
>
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> > > No, but I afaik he lives in a safe area in Israel.
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Re: Israel

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Re: Israel

[Mike Schwab]

The attack included a concert with International guests.

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> > No, but I afaik he lives in a safe area in Israel.
> >
> > ITschak
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Re: Israel

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> On Oct 8, 2023, at 12:03, Itschak Mugzach 
> <0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> No, but I afaik he lives in a safe area in Israel.
> 
> ITschak
> 
> בתאריך יום א׳, 8 באוק׳ 2023 ב-19:46 מאת Steve Beaver <
> 050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>:
> 
>> Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has started?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> No one said I could type with one thumb
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Re: Israel

[Itschak Mugzach]

No, but I afaik he lives in a safe area in Israel.

ITschak

בתאריך יום א׳, 8 באוק׳ 2023 ב-19:46 מאת Steve Beaver <
050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>:

> Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has started?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> No one said I could type with one thumb
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Israel

[Steve Beaver]

Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has started?

Sent from my iPhone

No one said I could type with one thumb 

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Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 22:30:52 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

>To be honest I consider date-related variables as pooor when
>compared to batch scheduler features, especially ControlM (it is not
>advertisement, just opinion).
>
You worked for a bank.

I had a co-worker who had worked for a bank.  He told me that
certain reports were legally required on certain dates.  Failure
to meet a production window would not avoid a penalty.

To avoid the risk, he read the report date from a control record rather
than using the system date facility.  The readers never knew.

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Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 18:42:42 +, Farley, Peter wrote:

>I’ll admit I have NOT used symbol substitution in the “name” part (left of the 
>“=”) at all, only on the right (value) side, so the true answer is “I don’t 
>know”.  Never had a reason to use substitution in the “name” part.
>
However infrequently it's done, it should be documented and behave as 
documented.
If the effect is to "Determine Equivalent JCL" then perform the operation, no 
more
explanation is needed.

I find 16 uses of "unpredictable" in the JCL Ref., with the caveat:
Chapter 4. Syntax of parameters 
Note: You must follow the syntax rules in coding job control statements to 
achieve
specific results. If you do not follow the rules, you may get error 
messages or
unpredictable results. IBM does not support the use of statements or parame

I fear "unpredictable" is too often the writers' excuseo when they don't know
the answer to a request for clarification and can't find out.

>I also have never had reason/need to use JCL continuation for the “value” part 
>of a symbol definition, all my symbols have fairly short values.
>
My  concern about continuation relates not only to SET/PROC/EXEC, but to
any JCL statement where symbol substitution might change the content of
column 73.  Since symbols can't be continued (bad design), I couldn't simply
generate a long command string and break it into 71-column chunks.

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Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 13:10:36 -0500, Michael Oujesky wrote:

>Dynamic symbols (date/time) can be evaluated at different points in
>time during conversion, so if used multiple time in the JCL, they can
>resolve to different values.   My ROT was to never use a dynamic
>symbol more that once in coding and where it was needed multiple
>time, set it to my own date/time variable and then use that in the
>multiple instances it was needed.
> 
But the hazard exists for any two or more symbols whose values must
be coordinated such as DATE and TIME.  This could be done with a
single symbol containing both date and time with guaranteed block-
concurrent access.  I know of none such.

POSIX rename() and PDS STOW Replace provide the effect of
block-concurrent access to the content of a file.

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Re: Assembler access to USS functions

[Erik Janssen]

Let me try and keep this thread alive ;-)
If the environment variables are in a LE data block, then where were they kept 
when omvs was first introduced? I was under the impression that omvs was 
introduced by before LE, or am I wrong?

Kind regards,
Erik Janssen

On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 08:59:28 +0800, David Crayford  wrote:

>> On 7 Oct 2023, at 6:28 am, Kirk Wolf  wrote:
>> 
>> This is a thread that won't die.  
>
>And there has been some absolute tosh spouted!
>
>> 
>> In z/OS, environment variables are in Language Environment, in the CEEEDB 
>> ("Enclave Data Block").   If your assembler code is running in LE, you can 
>> access/set them.   An empty table is created when the enclave is 
>> initialized, which can be BEFORE dubbing which happens at the first kernel 
>> call.Look in the LE books if you don't believe me.
>
>I believe you. It’s dependent on the OS. On Linux environment variables are 
>stored in the proc file system, /proc//environ. Whoever stated it’s part 
>of the C runtime doesn’t know what they’re talking about. 
>
>> 
>> Kirk Wolf
>> Dovetailed Technologies
>> http:// coztoolkit.com
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023, at 8:15 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>>> The issue isn't what has access to environmental variables, but rather what 
>>> creates them. 
>>> 
>>> Further, they are useful in other contexts. An otherwise legacy program 
>>> that uses a Unix command may need to pass the odd environment variable to 
>>> control options for which there are no switches.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
>>> Jon Perryman 
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 9:06 PM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: Assembler access to USS functions
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 20:54:56 +, Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>>> 
 Even if you have an OMVS segment, you don't get dubbed ntil you use a Unix 
 service.
>>> 
>>> Environment variables are not unique to UNIX and do not require dubbing. It 
>>> is a feature of the C/C++ language that is in the STDLIB (standard library) 
>>> and can be used in any environment.
>>> 
>>> Environment variables are only useful in languages that do not support 
>>> global variables or inter-language global variables is not supported. I 
>>> suspect that C and Cobol global variables are shared because of LE. 
>>> Languages like shells, Python, Java and others which are runtime languages 
>>> don't have access to C and Cobol global variables which makes environment 
>>> variables a simple inter-language-communications feature.
>>> 
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