Re: Book Manager

[Anthony L. Zak]

V V2/s/ Anthony L. Zak
 Original message ,From: Bernd Oppolzer 
 Date: 3/20/23  12:40  (GMT-05:00) To: 
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] BookManager I would like to 
thank all who responded and tellz you about the solution we found.Kz[>  g 
zd;&-÷3@^' First of all, with some support from somewhere, we managed to 
re-install the BookManager softwareon the z/OS 2.5 system - unsupported / 
as-is. This, at least, allows us to read the books temporarilyand to start the 
conversion from here.Then I copied the needed books (some hundred) to 
Bookmaster GML format, which can be donefrom inside READ/MVS. The MVS (or z/OS) 
version converts complete books to Bookmaster GML,not only single paragraphs. 
The Bookmaster files (which are textfiles in the end) then were movedto a PC 
(using text FTP).Then I used B2H (the Windows variant) to create HTML from the 
Bookmaster files. I changed theB2H REXX a little bit, so that all texts are 
enclosed in  tags; this way the line breaks etc.from the original 
documents are preserved.Task completed :-)Some additional remarks:the internal 
layout of the .BOO files is not usable and very difficult; 4096 byte segments, 
word fragmentsin EBCDIC, maybe some sort of linked list or tree structure. I 
spent some time trying to understand this,but no success.I also tried to find 
the Bookmaster sources - as suggested by some posters - at my customer's 
sitefor the books, which were present in the "production" bookshelves, but also 
no success;the sources were partially lost and the people responsible for the 
books have retired.So it was best to retrieve the Bookmaster sources from the 
books directly.Kind regardsBerndAm 28.02.2023 um 18:59 schrieb Bernd Oppolzer:> 
What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?>> My customer has 
some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access> after the z/OS 
migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).>> We managed to transfer 
the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can> at least look at the books. 
Now I would like to convert the books to > PDFs.> But the free Softcopy Reader 
refuses to print more than one (selected) > topicc1+○xcb v> or ranges of 
topics; if you try to do this using the print menu > (selected or range),> the 
output is always empty.>> Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of 
text not allowed in > the free version?> What are the options?>> The eMail 
address book...@us.ibm.com, which is mentioned in the > Softcopy Reader> help 
texts, doesn't exist any more (BTW: the Softcopy Reader is a 2012 > edition;> 
this seems to be the last one available).>> Is there a documented API to read 
the books using a C or REXX program> and build the PDFs this way? Or build HTML 
from the books?>> Thanks for all suggestions,> kind regards>> 
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Re: BookManager

[Anthony L. Zak]

,l/s/ Anthony L. Zak6iwjj 
 Original message From: Bernd Oppolzer 
 Date: 3/20/23  12:40  (GMT-05:00) To: 
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] BookManager I would like to 
thank all who responded and tell you about the solution we found.First of all, 
with some support from somewhere, we managed to re-install the BookManager 
softwareon the z/OS 2.5 system - unsupported / as-is. This, at least, allows us 
to read the books temporarilyand to start the conversion from here.Then I 
copied the needed books (some hundred) to Bookmaster GML format, which can be 
donefrom inside READ/MVS. The MVS (or z/OS) version converts complete books to 
Bookmaster GML,not only single paragraphs. The Bookmaster files (which are 
textfiles in the end) then were movedto a PC (using text FTP).Then I used B2H 
(the Windows variant) to create HTML from the Bookmaster files. I changed 
theB2H REXX a little bit, so that all texts are enclosed in  tags; this 
way the line breaks etc.from the original documents are preserved.Task 
completed :-)Some additional remarks:the internal layout of the .BOO files is 
not usable and very difficult; 4096 byte segments, word fragmentsin EBCDIC, 
maybe some sort of linked list or tree structure. I spent some time trying to 
understand this,but no success.I also tried to find the Bookmaster sources - as 
suggested by some posters - at my customer's sitefor the books, which were 
present in the "production" bookshelves, but also no success;the sources were 
partially lost and the people responsible for the books have retired.So it was 
best to retrieve the Bookmaster sources from the books directly.Kind 
regardsBerndAm 28.02.2023 um 18:59 schrieb Bernd Oppolzer:> What is the 
preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?>> My customer has some 
home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access> after the z/OS migration 
(BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).>> We managed to transfer the books 
to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can> at least look at the books. Now I 
would like to convert the books to > PDFs.> But the free Softcopy Reader 
refuses to print more than one (selected) > topic> or ranges of topics; if you 
try to do this using the print menu > (selected or range),> the output is 
always empty.>> Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not 
allowed in > the free version?> What are the options?>> The eMail address 
book...@us.ibm.com, which is mentioned in the > Softcopy Reader> help texts, 
doesn't exist any more (BTW: the Softcopy Reader is a 2012 > edition;> this 
seems to be the last one available).>> Is there a documented API to read the 
books using a C or REXX program> and build the PDFs this way? Or build HTML 
from the books?>> Thanks for all suggestions,> kind regards>> 
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Re: Use of zCX

[Anthony L. Zak]

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 Original message From: Sean Gleann  
Date: 4/21/22  2:57 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 
[IBM-MAIN] Use of zCX @Robert Garrett (with a sigh of relief!) 15 minutes for 
z/CX to come up ona z/OS under z/VM at Dallas?   Me too. I thought I was doing 
somethingwrong, but couldn't get any useful feedback from IBM/Dallas about 
the'problem'.SeanOn Thu, 21 Apr 2022 at 04:57, kekronbekron 
<02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:> Apologies if this 
seems rash.> Certainly don't mean to belittle people's work; many are 
restricted with> choices, procedures, etc.> If it isn't for the cost of being 
an MF s/w vendor, competent new> solutions would steal the show.> Much like 
most of y'all, I want Z to remain king of the hill.>> -KB>> --- Original 
Message ---> On Thursday, April 21st, 2022 at 9:06 AM, kekronbekron <> 
02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:>>> > As an observer, I 
reckon IBM are forced to use OpenShift because they've> got to get RedHat in 
there.> > Also, since everyone knows the word Docker now, the Z "has to have 
it".> > Surely the industry is now waking up to the mess that is the 
Kubernetes> ecoystem mgmt., service MESS.> >> > I do wonder... for those who 
thought setting up zOSMF RACF was painful,> what their journey will be for zCX 
and OpenShift.> > Just saying, "it's free because zIIP" doesn't make it good.> 
> No Ferrari owner should be "compelled" to use a unicycle's wheel just> 
because it's free.> >> > IMHO, "Me too" solutions are seriously ruining the 
reputation of the Z> with the ridiculous CPU, memory, storage requirements.> > 
I thought it was ridiculous that RDz wanted a few gigabytes of memory> for the 
JVM.> > Rebadged oldware, with web stack & interface from early 2010s, are now> 
coming to compete with Chrome, in their lust for memory and such.> >> > - KB> > 
--- Original Message ---> > On Thursday, April 21st, 2022 at 4:22 AM, 
Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net> wrote:> >> >> >> > > On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 at 
18:00, Robert Garrett rob...@garrettfamily.us> wrote:> > >> > > [...]> > >> > > 
> It likes a LOT of real memory and it appears that the running> instance 
consumes the full amount of real memory allocated to it for the> duration, 
making it unavailable to zOS for paging or any other use. Don't> believe the 
claim that it can run in as little> > > > as 2GB. The experimental test 
instance that I built had 3GB> allocated to it (the most I could give it on the 
LPAR I was using) and it> took a full 15 minutes (yes minutes) by the clock for 
the address space to> initialize and reach the point where it was> > > > 
functional - on every start up. Admittedly, this was on a zOS image> that was 
being hosted under zVM at IBM Dallas, so I'm sure that had some> impact.> > >> 
> > That smells like three levels of SIE, which to my understanding is> > > 
never going to perform reasonably.> > >> > > Tony H.> > >> > > 
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Re: Use of zCX

[Anthony L. Zak]

/s/ Anthony L. ZakJo,z
 Original message From: Sean Gleann  
Date: 4/21/22  2:57 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 
[IBM-MAIN] Use of zCX @Robert Garrett (with a sigh of relief!) 15 minutes for 
z/CX to come up ona z/OS under z/VM at Dallas?   Me too. I thought I was doing 
somethingwrong, but couldn't get any useful feedback from IBM/Dallas about 
the'problem'.SeanOn Thu, 21 Apr 2022 at 04:57, kekronbekron 
<02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:> Apologies if this 
seems rash.> Certainly don't mean to belittle people's work; many are 
restricted with> choices, procedures, etc.> If it isn't for the cost of being 
an MF s/w vendor, competent new> solutions would steal the show.> Much like 
most of y'all, I want Z to remain king of the hill.>> -KB>> --- Original 
Message ---> On Thursday, April 21st, 2022 at 9:06 AM, kekronbekron <> 
02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:>>> > As an observer, I 
reckon IBM are forced to use OpenShift because they've> got to get RedHat in 
there.> > Also, since everyone knows the word Docker now, the Z "has to have 
it".> > Surely the industry is now waking up to the mess that is the 
Kubernetes> ecoystem mgmt., service MESS.> >> > I do wonder... for those who 
thought setting up zOSMF RACF was painful,> what their journey will be for zCX 
and OpenShift.> > Just saying, "it's free because zIIP" doesn't make it good.> 
> No Ferrari owner should be "compelled" to use a unicycle's wheel just> 
because it's free.> >> > IMHO, "Me too" solutions are seriously ruining the 
reputation of the Z> with the ridiculous CPU, memory, storage requirements.> > 
I thought it was ridiculous that RDz wanted a few gigabytes of memory> for the 
JVM.> > Rebadged oldware, with web stack & interface from early 2010s, are now> 
coming to compete with Chrome, in their lust for memory and such.> >> > - KB> > 
--- Original Message ---> > On Thursday, April 21st, 2022 at 4:22 AM, 
Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net> wrote:> >> >> >> > > On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 at 
18:00, Robert Garrett rob...@garrettfamily.us> wrote:> > >> > > [...]> > >> > > 
> It likes a LOT of real memory and it appears that the running> instance 
consumes the full amount of real memory allocated to it for the> duration, 
making it unavailable to zOS for paging or any other use. Don't> believe the 
claim that it can run in as little> > > > as 2GB. The experimental test 
instance that I built had 3GB> allocated to it (the most I could give it on the 
LPAR I was using) and it> took a full 15 minutes (yes minutes) by the clock for 
the address space to> initialize and reach the point where it was> > > > 
functional - on every start up. Admittedly, this was on a zOS image> that was 
being hosted under zVM at IBM Dallas, so I'm sure that had some> impact.> > >> 
> > That smells like three levels of SIE, which to my understanding is> > > 
never going to perform reasonably.> > >> > > Tony H.> > >> > > 
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Re: Mainframe user ID length

[Anthony L. Zak]

I used TSO under OS/360's MVT release 20 in the early or mid 70's.  I remember 
a 7 character TSO userid length limit with the 'submit' command able to add an 
eighth character to allow for multiple job submissions.

/s/ Anthony L. Zak

-Original Message-
>From: David Spiegel 
>Sent: Apr 30, 2020 5:02 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Mainframe user ID length
>
>TSO used to have a limit of 7.
>
>On 2020-04-30 16:43, Mike Schwab wrote:
>> USERID length can be 8.
>>
>> TSO USED to have a limit of 8, with the SYS1.UADS emergency logon
>> adding a digit to access multiple records, and job submission adding a
>> character for the jobname.
>>
>> The 8th character was/is the length in Binary, x'01'-x'07'.  Now you
>> can specify an 8 byte TSO USERID, with the 8th character being >
>> x'07'.
>>
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2FSSLTBW_2.3.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r3.e0za100%2Fch1tso_23_8char.htmdata=02%7C01%7C%7C57136fbee2814281b18408d7ed47603c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637238763120777692sdata=VumiQcDjPdQQ9B1ZFQXiQHRSwCBEs%2FSKsKS9G62LpIM%3Dreserved=0.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 8:21 PM Frank Swarbrick
>>  wrote:
>>> I'm asking about the user ID, not the password/pass phrase.  But thanks.
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
>>> Jesse 1 Robinson 
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 2:03 PM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
>>> Subject: Re: Mainframe user ID length
>>>
>>> RACF can now handle 'password phrase' of considerable length and/or 
>>> upper/lower case passwords. If you allow lower case, you can end up with a 
>>> mess. With traditional upper-only system option, a password typed e.g. via 
>>> TSO gets automatically translated to upper case with no user notification. 
>>> With the system option set to lower case allowed, that translation does not 
>>> occur. This means that every password entry *must* also be lower case. Some 
>>> logon environments may not allow lower case. Worse, if there is a severe 
>>> problem that requires fallback to upper only, a user with a lower case 
>>> password may not be able to logon at all.
>>>
>>> This is an all or nothing option. Allowing or disallowing lower case 
>>> affects all environments at the same time.
>>>
>>> .
>>> .
>>> J.O.Skip Robinson
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>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
>>> Frank Swarbrick
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 12:46 PM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: (External):Mainframe user ID length
>>>
>>> CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL
>>>
>>> Is z/OS still limited in all cases to 8 upper case characters?  I am 
>>> curious if a user that only has access to MQ might be able to have a longer 
>>> and ideally mixed case user ID.  They wouldn't have access to TSO or CICS 
>>> or IMS.
>>>
>>>

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Re: TSO receive on MultiVolume PS error

[Anthony L. Zak]

TRANSMIT, a TSO command processor running on the z/OS M/F, repackages the input 
dataset and then writes it to JES to be handled via NJE which means the data 
can be RECEIVEd wherever there is NJE connectivity.  IND$FILE  piggybacks over 
a 3270 type session with Comm Server and AFAIK only gets you as far as the host 
you have the 3270 session with. One could use them in series.  How about using 
z/OS Explorer which is a 21st century product?
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Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 20:53:26 
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Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] TSO receive on MultiVolume PS error

On 2016-05-22, at 14:31, R.S. wrote:

> W dniu 2016-05-20 o 18:33, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
>>> 
>> My quick check for this is (IIRC):
>> 
>> cp -B "//'DSN(MEMBER)'" /dev/fd/1 | cksum
>> 
>> ... at both ends of the transfer and compare the checksums and lengths.
>> 
> I remember how I spent half a day on such problem.
> I had to download PTF package then move it from one PC to another, using 
> pendrive, then upload it to z/OS and do SMPE tasks.
> I took a lot of time to recognize the reason is failing pendrive (nota bene 
> with IBM logo! ;-))) ). It simply changed some bytes within the file with no 
> CRC32 error or so. It was the last thing on the list of suspects.
>  
Ouch!  Do you mean the pendrive reported no error, or that you got the
same CRC32 on the originating PC and the destination PC?

Windows is woefully deficient in checksum utilities.  One must install
one.  I use Cygwin.

But my suggestion was elliptical.  I should have mentioned the need to
use TRANSMIT with the OUTDSN option; FTP/SFTP/IND$FILE; then compare
checksums; then RECEIVE with the INDSN option.

Can TRANSMIT use IND$FILE for the TCP/IP challenged?  Can IND$FILE
transfer z/OS to z/OS?

-- gil

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