Re: dataset list ISPF =3.4 batch job

2020-09-24 Thread David Spiegel
The VTOC Command Processor ...  CBT File 112 On 2020-09-24 12:32, Bill Giannelli wrote: is there a batch job equivalent of ISPF =3.4 dataset list? I want to get a total (or at least a list of) tracks for a dataset list. thanks Bill

Re: J/TIP

2020-09-17 Thread David Spiegel
Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 9:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: J/TIP Hi, I have been asked to investigate a number of JES2 Exits which are being used to support remnants of J/TIP. Does anyone here have J/TIP documentation or know

J/TIP

2020-09-16 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, I have been asked to investigate a number of JES2 Exits which are being used to support remnants of J/TIP. Does anyone here have J/TIP documentation or know where to find it? J/TIP is from University of Illinois in the '70s-'8-80s  and the acronym is short for JES2 TSO Interface Program.

Re: SMPe holddata for previous apply run

2020-09-16 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, Add CHECK and REDO. Regards, David On 2020-09-16 09:17, Bill Giannelli wrote: I have applied a round of maintenance a few months back but havent moved it into our "run time libraries" yet. Is there a way to run a SMPe report and get the HOLDDATA from that previous APPLY? thanks Bill

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: How get a user to use his own catalog rather than master?

2020-09-15 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Charles, I have a self-imposed rule: Always do it in Batch (rather than via TSO and/or ISPF). This has at least 2 benefits: 1) It's repeatable and a history is automatically kept (assuming that you save every Batch Job). 2) You get to learn the Utilities faster. Regards, David On

Re: How get a user to use his own catalog rather than master?

2020-09-15 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Charles, I'd also make sure that you have a GAC Rule for user-owned Datasets (assuming that TSO Prefix=Userid) |RALTER GLOBAL DATASET ADDMEM('**'/ALTER) Regards, David | On 2020-09-15 18:20, Charles Mills wrote: I really apologize for the incredible newbie question. I am a developer; I

Re: Architectural Level Sets

2020-09-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Clark, Did you run MVS on a 4341? If yes, which version? Thanks and regards, David On 2020-09-09 19:12, Clark Morris wrote: [Default] On 9 Sep 2020 14:47:15 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: In XA mode the problem is the SIO instruction. DOS.360,

Re: PL/I integers

2020-09-07 Thread David Spiegel
... and the compile options On 2020-09-07 10:48, Bob Bridges wrote: All of this is really fascinating (and no, I'm not being facetious): A bunch of apparently knowledgeable PL/1 programmers cannot agree on a point that would seem to have a single indisputable answer. Rather than keep on

ICONV

2020-09-04 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, Does anyone here have experience with using GENXLT and EDCSUSNM Macros to do a "custom" translation? Briefly, I would like to know which Dataset(s) the ICONV Utility uses to load its tables. (Is it LNKLST or LPALST possibly?) Thanks and regards, David

Re: Architectural Level Sets

2020-09-01 Thread David Spiegel
Yes. I took care of VS1 1.7D with BPE (Basic Programming Extensions) on a 4341. On 2020-09-01 22:56, Mike Schwab wrote: Well, this is what confused me. OS/VS1 1.7 was released to run on the IBM 4300. VS2 is multiple address spaces, vs VS1 is a single 16MB address space, correct?

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Ed, Do EMCS messages not go to SYSLOG? If yes, please provide an example. Regards, David On 2020-08-26 23:55, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 8/26/2020 5:03 PM, Steve Beaver wrote: The only reason I can think of a case where the syslog is way behind. Syslog is not relevant here. This is an EMCS

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Peter, If you have SDSF, you can write a Rexx program to scan the SYSLOG (either active or offloaded) for messages output by your modify command. Regards, David On 2020-08-26 05:39, Peter wrote: I have a command F STARTEDTASK, STATUS it gives the output in SYSLOG but I would like to

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, Another idea in conjunction with Tom's below ... Using the PDS Comand Processor (CBT File 182), you can sort the member list by Link Edit Date. You could also display the HIStory of a given member which should show you the APARs/PTFs APPLYd. Regards, David On 2020-08-19 09:33, Tom

Re: Anybody still running a 3270 setup?

2020-08-07 Thread David Spiegel
4331/4341/4381 perhaps? On 2020-08-07 11:15, Stefan Skoglund wrote: lör 2020-08-01 klockan 21:14 + skrev Alexander Huemer: Hi Question about 3270, once again. As you might know, interest in 3270 hardware increased recently, due to the emerge of Andrew Kay's oec[0,1]. I have built the

Re: [External] Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-08-04 Thread David Spiegel
Thigpen Pew, Curtis G wrote on 7/21/20 12:28 PM: On Jul 21, 2020, at 11:12 AM, David Spiegel wrote: "... 100 knots is about 55mph ..." Assuming you meant Kilometers/Hour (based upon the context), it's actually 62.5 MPH. Well, if the posted limit is 55 mph, 62.5 mph seems about the r

Re: Query ESM from REXX

2020-08-02 Thread David Spiegel
Shkoyach On 2020-08-02 07:25, Itschak Mugzach wrote: You need to use this or wright an assembler program to execute a third party check on the resource in question. Easier in rexx with irrxutil. בתאריך יום א׳, 2 באוג׳ 2020, 14:20, מאת Gadi Ben-Avi ‏: IRRXUTIL extracts information from the

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, Please see: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp4531.pdf Regards, David On 2020-07-27 11:31, Seymour J Metz wrote: It looks like you're using JES3. I thought thad SDSF didn't support it. CC 0 would have been a useful datum in the original question. It looks like

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, The start and stop happen because, another task is started, usually named FTPD1. To see it, you can issue (on the console or via SDSF/EJES): D A,FTPD1 As an aside, z/OS V2.5 will be the last release supporting IBM JES3. After that, you will be unsupported, convert to Phoenix's JES3 or

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread David Spiegel
m, cell 336 382-7313 /* It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it. -Sam Levenson */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:22 Yeah, ex

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread David Spiegel
Yeah, except that Fahrenheit degrees are smaller. For the same accuracy, you'd have to resort to digits to the right of the decimal point. Feh! On 2020-07-22 12:15, Bob Bridges wrote: Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without having to think much about it. It's so easy:

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-21 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tony, "... 100 knots is about 55mph ..." Assuming you meant Kilometers/Hour (based upon the context), it's actually 62.5 MPH. Regards, David On 2020-07-21 12:00, Tony Thigpen wrote: It's all perspective and how precise you need to be. And what we are measuring. The only thing I know

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-21 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tom, Don't forget that Metric was foisted upon us (as was federal bilingualism) by Justin's father as a political move after he quelled the FLQ Crisis. It also was a sneaky way to get more tax revenue. That is, 1 penny/liter gasoline tax seems more palatable than an extra 4.5 cents/gallon.

Re: Is /usr/lpp reserved solely for IBM products?

2020-07-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Israel AMV"SH, Shavua Tov! A side point ... If SYS1.PARMLIB is CATALOGd via a Symbolic (e.g. ) your IPL will fail, however, for a successful it can be CATALOGd via VOL(*). Regards, David On 2020-07-12 04:50, Israel Wagshal wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 17:09:32 -0500, Al Ferguson wrote:

Re: potential catalog search error - shown by IGGCSI00 [EXTERNAL]

2020-07-10 Thread David Spiegel
Are the ALIASs blown? On 2020-07-10 11:22, Bruce Lightsey wrote: Slight (or major) correction Kirk - datasets cataloged in the master catalog return correctly. Any dataset in any user catalog is "not found". I can, for example, find the SYS1.CPU1.VTAMLST dataset that is cataloged in the

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-09 Thread David Spiegel
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi Skip, My program does it in one call. Regards, David On 2020-07

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Skip, My program does it in one call. Regards, David On 2020-07-09 00:20, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: My experience with RACF echoes Bob Bridges, as does the excellent code sample from David Spiegel. A single call directly to RACF returns a yes/no for the level of access queried in that call

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Paul, Translating the Zohar into Sanskrit is not as strange as it sounds. Regards, David On 2020-07-08 23:58, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:28:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: Regarding 2: *if* it was a "round trip" translate table and *if* one could get a copy of the table

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, Here is my RACROUTE program from CBT File 836: RACROUTE TITLE 'RACROUTE STATUS=ACCESS' * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * *    Author:   David Spiegel * *    Update:   Sam Golob  - June 17, 2020 *  Return words instead of only

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Joe, Why is it useless? Thanks and regards, David On 2020-07-08 16:25, Joe Monk wrote: Yep. And its useless. Joe On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:39 PM David Spiegel wrote: Hi Joe, I GUNZIPd and UNTARd WYLBUR via CYGWIN on Windows 10 Pro. Regards, David On 2020-07-08 14:25, Joe Monk wrote

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Joe, I GUNZIPd and UNTARd WYLBUR via CYGWIN on Windows 10 Pro. Regards, David On 2020-07-08 14:25, Joe Monk wrote: Here is some info from a while back ... There is definitely interest, but the UCLA version, instead of being offloaded on the mainframe in AWS or Transmit format, was

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R"Shmuel AMV"SH, Your first link didn't work. Regards, David On 2020-07-08 08:09, Seymour J Metz wrote: Of course SuperWylbur is not WYLBUR: Why do you say that? Ceertainly the wiki article [[ORVYL and WYLBUR# SuperWylbur™]] says no such thing. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-07 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, "...  But if you want to know all the kinds of access you have, you'd need to ask the question three or four times, for read, update, execute and create. ..." This statement is not true. I published an Assembler program and a Rexx Exec here on June 14. My program has been placed on

Re: RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread David Spiegel
"... BREECH ..." Congratulations on the new baby! On 2020-07-02 09:19, Ron Wells wrote: That is what concerns me...too me it is a BREECH of security Want to stay off list.. my email is ron.we...@omf.com They only mentioned a exit/api needs to be installed >> bother me ... trying to get

Re: Installing Java

2020-06-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gadi AMV"SH, If later PTFs are truly replacements, the hierarchy of PTFs should be that every new PTF should SUPersede any old one. This means that only the last one actually gets installed. Regards, David On 2020-06-30 03:14, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: Hi, When I ordered z/OS v2.4, I only

Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread David Spiegel
or batch. Regards, David On 2020-06-18 09:46, Brian France wrote: Howdy Dave,    I will have a look at it. Thanks... On 6/18/2020 9:01 AM, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Brian, You may be interested in File 112 on the "CBT Tape" (cbttape.org) . I've been using it for more than 35 years and i

Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi John, I am well aware of this capability, and I really do not want to appear to be overly chauvinistic, BUT, VTOC (File 112 on the CBT Tape) beats the pants off of your solution. Regards, David On 2020-06-18 09:36, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France wrote:

Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Brian, You may be interested in File 112 on the "CBT Tape" (cbttape.org) . I've been using it for more than 35 years and it has many filtering and print options. Regards, David On 2020-06-18 08:53, Brian France wrote:  I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command

Re: z/OS Master Console Commands

2020-06-17 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Elaine. That probably depends upon which 3270 Emulation software you are using. Which one is it? Regards,. David On 2020-06-17 22:14, Elaine Beal wrote: so I don't know where my PA1 key is except in my TN3270 session keyboard what is it when I'm on the console? I can display and change the

Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

2020-06-17 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, I have painfully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) mangled a Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation. It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP). Regards, David On 2020-06-17 21:38, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 20:29:08 -0500,

Re: [External] Re: z/OS 2.4 and SDSF question

2020-06-17 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Rex, It does not appear to be SDSF per se. I displayed the Job output with the (TSO) OUTPUT Command ... Same result as yours. Regards, David On 2020-06-17 17:37, Pommier, Rex wrote: Hi Lizette, I'm the OP. :-) My expectation is that when a job gets submitted with TYPRUN=COPY, I get a

Re: z/OS Master Console Commands

2020-06-15 Thread David Spiegel
PA1 On 2020-06-15 13:51, Elaine Beal wrote: Isn't there a way to recall previous commands on the console? I can't find anything and it's killin me! Thanks, Elaine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: WP vs MS [was:: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )]

2020-06-15 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Peter, Printed Labels? ... I've done this at least 10 times using Avery labels and MS-Word. It's not that difficult. Regards, David On 2020-06-15 00:43, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: And WP still exists and is still thriving, AFAICT. I run WP X8 on my home machines, and version X9 is out

Re: HOW DO I VERIFY A USERID'S ACCESS TO A DATASET

2020-06-13 Thread David Spiegel
private. Regards, David On 2020-06-14 00:31, Arthur wrote: On 13 Jun 2020 21:22:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:) dspiegel...@hotmail.com (David Spiegel) wrote: Here is my solution ... 1) An Assembler program ... Does not to be APF Authorized, if ESM is RACF. (If ESM is ACF/2

Re: HOW DO I VERIFY A USERID'S ACCESS TO A DATASET

2020-06-13 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Colleagues, Here is my solution ... 1) An Assembler program ... Does not to be APF Authorized, if ESM is RACF. (If ESM is ACF/2 or TSS, it needs APF Authorization). 2) A Rexx Exec RACROUTE TITLE 'RACROUTE STATUS=ACCESS' RACROUTE CSECT , RACROUTE AMODE 31 RACROUTE RMODE ANY SAVE 

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread David Spiegel
Maybe the Zone is set to an incorrect Zone. (i.e SET BDY(TZONE).) On 2020-06-11 13:17, Bill Giannelli wrote: I ran a GIMSUP download, unpack, receive which ran clean. I see the received ptfs in a LIST NOAPPLY. But when I run theAPPLY I get "NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread David Spiegel
SMP/e ZONECOPY, UCLIN (to fix the DDDEFs), DFSMSDss to COPY and RENAME the Datasets On 2020-06-11 11:38, Bill Giannelli wrote: I want to setup separate SMPe environments, say 3 for different maintenance levels. One matching production then 2 others for maintenance levels "coming next". My

Re: COBOL Question

2020-06-09 Thread David Spiegel
+1 sleazy-freaking-trieve. (I used to support it, Panvalet and Librarian) On 2020-06-09 16:27, Joe Monk wrote: "Easytrieve plus" You mean sleazytrieve plus? :) There was also DYL280 and QUIKJOB. Joe On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 12:55 PM Mike Schwab wrote: 4GL - I've used Telon which takes a

Re: COBOL Question

2020-06-05 Thread David Spiegel
+1 On 2020-06-05 16:47, Gibney, Dave wrote: The entire original confusion had to do with the fact that the 1st question involving HiGH-VALUE was not processed as expected because the AND took precedent over the OR. I don't remember exactly how COBOL does X = 'A' OR 'B', If NATURAL, this

Re: What is GRXBIMG

2020-06-04 Thread David Spiegel
No and No. I've been using Rexx on TSO since the day it came out and have never coded this DDNAME. Regards, David On 2020-06-04 10:09, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 09:27:59 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Ken, I had the same idea and 3.14d all of the relevant LNKLST and LPALST

Re: What is GRXBIMG

2020-06-04 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Ken, I had the same idea and 3.14d all of the relevant LNKLST and LPALST Datasets. It came up empty. Regards, David On 2020-06-04 09:13, Ken Smith wrote: Has someone searched SYS1.LINKLIB and the rest for a reference to GRBXBIMG? also, is it GRBXBIMG or GRXBIMG? On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at

Re: Sort extracting values in PDS members

2020-05-27 Thread David Spiegel
Have you ever heard of the famous PDSLOAD Program from the CBT Tape? It can generate the control cards (IEBUPDTE-like) and even maintain ISPF Statistics. On 2020-05-27 21:39, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2020 11:13:26 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: I have used REXX to do this. One

Re: Sort extracting values in PDS members

2020-05-27 Thread David Spiegel
Vie Haist Du, Esther? On 2020-05-27 18:02, Seymour J Metz wrote: Ob וְכַאֲשֶׁר אָבַדְתִּי, אָבָדְתִּי If they routinely lose programs, won't they also lose the ICEMAN and SuperC control statements? If it were me I'd do it in ISPF and keep a private copy of the source code for when they lose

Re: Where do started PROC errors go?

2020-05-21 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Slivovitz drinkers, Which brand do you prefer? Regards, David On 2020-05-21 22:39, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: It may not be echt, but I like my Slivowitz well iced. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread David Spiegel
OS/VS1 ... like CRJE and IEHIOSUP? On 2020-05-18 12:32, Seymour J Metz wrote: You would think that IBM's "Premiere OS" would be able to provide something this simple! :-)> Not when it's still missing features from OS/VS1 and z/VSE. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: DFSMS Move Dataset

2020-05-16 Thread David Spiegel
LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) OUTDDNAME(DASD2) DELETE CATALOG /* . Would Anyone have an example of moving VSAM Datasets Do I specify the base cluster ? Do I specify the base cluster, data component, and index component ? An Example would be appreciated ? -- Original Message -- From: Dav

Re: DFSMS Move Dataset

2020-05-15 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Paul, A bit of advice (I've been using DFSMSdss for 30+ years). Unless not possible, ALWAYS obtain your list of Datasets to be processed, via Logical criteria. (Do not, unless you have to, use Physical criteria). The difference between them is that Physical criteria are generated by coding

Re: Does allocating an HFS or zFS erase all existing data?intervals formatted?

2020-05-15 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Mike, You said: "...  All VSAm Datasets including Linear are formatted when created ...". Is this true for ESDSs? Where is this documented? Thanks and regards, David All VSAM datasets including Linear are formatted when created On 2020-05-15 13:14, Mike Schwab wrote: All VSAM datasets

Re: USS: su: User ID "SH" does not exist

2020-05-15 Thread David Spiegel
@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: USS: su: User ID "SH" does not exist Nope. Semicolons are a continuation! On 2020-05-15 8:13 PM, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Jon, Every line except for the last line needs a semicolon. Regards, David

Re: USS: su: User ID "SH" does not exist

2020-05-15 Thread David Spiegel
Hi David, Yes, I am aware of that. That is *why* they are necessary. What is your point? Regards, David On 2020-05-15 08:47, David Crayford wrote: Nope. Semicolons are a continuation! On 2020-05-15 8:13 PM, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Jon, Every line except for the last line needs a semicolon

Re: USS: su: User ID "SH" does not exist

2020-05-15 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jon, Every line except for the last line needs a semicolon. Regards, David On 2020-05-15 08:10, Jon Bathmaker wrote: Hi Ed, Thanks for this!  How *did* you find out about the semicolons, I didn't see them anywhere in the doc. Best regards, *Jon Bathmaker,* SYS1 Consulting Inc.

Re: Activate SMS configuration in batch

2020-05-14 Thread David Spiegel
You said: "... you could do it with CONDOLE ..." Qu'est-ce que c'est "CONDOLE" (is he related to Bob Dole or Dole pineapple)? On 2020-05-14 14:52, Seymour J Metz wrote: If you just wanted to wait until the SETSMS command was comple you could do it with CONDOLE, but AFAIK SETSMS and SET SMS=

Re: Colossus, Strangelove, etc. was: Developers say...

2020-05-11 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Joe, You beat me to it! Regards, David On 2020-05-11 12:57, Joe Monk wrote: An even better story ...

Re: IDCAMS not freeing file

2020-05-07 Thread David Spiegel
JES2 or JES3? This could make a difference. On 2020-05-07 08:27, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: Hi, We have the following problem I job runs IDCAMS that delete and redefines a VSAM KSDS file. The next step uses a user program to send a command to CICS to open file file. In one partition this works fine.

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread David Spiegel
+1 On 2020-05-06 16:43, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Are you still wanting to limit "non OPER" users to only those jobs beginning with their user ID? If so, for gods sake why? Sounds very 1960s... From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Robert Hahne

Re: z/os d,a,l --- What does "owt" mean ?

2020-05-01 Thread David Spiegel
Swapped out, waiting, not ready to run. (waiting for user to enter a command) On 2020-05-01 15:09, Mike Stramba wrote: When running the z/os console display command : d,a,l --- What does "owt" mean ? Seems to be associated with TSO processes ? Mike

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-04-30 Thread David Spiegel
TSO used to have a limit of 7. On 2020-04-30 16:43, Mike Schwab wrote: USERID length can be 8. TSO USED to have a limit of 8, with the SYS1.UADS emergency logon adding a digit to access multiple records, and job submission adding a character for the jobname. The 8th character was/is the

Re: Here we go again;

2020-04-23 Thread David Spiegel
02%7C01%7C%7C46dd520a166449a9cd0508d7e7a01440%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637232547029007963sdata=6Tc%2BdMoQWcieXngCXVB9X6a8A5Osis8Sul4WX4yQtXs%3Dreserved=0 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Spiegel [dspiegel...@h

Re: Here we go again;

2020-04-23 Thread David Spiegel
1s' complement as in ... CDC? (I used to program FORTRAN on CDC and had to deal with "Negative Zeroes".) On 2020-04-23 11:37, Seymour J Metz wrote: Real programmers use ones' complement ;-) I don't know of any machine that uses a ten's complement representation, but the idea is appealing.

Re: [External] Re: Here we go again;

2020-04-22 Thread David Spiegel
Because, one programmer produces JCL and shares it with his/her colleagues for the next 50 years. Have you ever worked in a real company? On 2020-04-22 15:41, Gerhard adam wrote: Why did you have to go to the programmers to make sure they were using proper block sizes if

Re: [External] Re: Here we go again;

2020-04-22 Thread David Spiegel
I'll bet that you never used the VTOC program (CBT File 112) to scan your DASD for underutilization, bad blocking, uncataloged datasets, phantom catalog entries etc. On 2020-04-22 15:20, Gerhard adam wrote: ... and so goes the mythology.  The truth is that programmers

Re: [External] Re: Here we go again;

2020-04-22 Thread David Spiegel
The 3200 Maximum Blocksize used to be a Linkage Editor restriction. Also, better JCL does not pay dividends for any software vendor. As long as the old stuff works, nobody cares that it has been around since 2314s and 2319s. On 2020-04-22 15:34, Seymour J Metz wrote: Well, I used a DCB exit

Re: Here we go again;

2020-04-22 Thread David Spiegel
It was also the physical size of the dataset. On 2020-04-22 12:55, Gibney, Dave wrote: In the 80's a byte of DASD savings could be thousands of dollars. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:12 AM To:

Re: IPCS LIST command to display storage when pointer is in a different address space

2020-04-20 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel, PKB ... Do you mean "Pot calling the kettle black "? Regards, David On 2020-04-20 11:12, Seymour J Metz wrote: PKB. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: Apparent bug in CBT 617 SMFREPT

2020-04-14 Thread David Spiegel
What type of coffee? On 2020-04-14 13:56, Seymour J Metz wrote: Sorry, not enough coffee. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Seymour J Metz

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

2020-04-13 Thread David Spiegel
Tuna fish? On 2020-04-13 12:09, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote: How about a NIC card? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Re: Why rip out COBOL when you can modernize key applications? - Weirdware

2020-04-07 Thread David Spiegel
subroutines and local variables have been supported since COBOL 1985 (VS COBOL II era). They're not ideal, but they do exist. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Spiegel Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re

Re: Why rip out COBOL when you can modernize key applications? - Weirdware

2020-04-07 Thread David Spiegel
How about no internal subroutines with local variables? On 2020-04-07 14:47, Bob Bridges wrote: I used to bad-mouth COBOL, and I still prefer languages that are less wordy. But I came somewhat reluctantly to see that it has its strengths. The one I think most important is that it encourages

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi David, "... For a lot of tasks ISPF is the best tool for the job. ..." How about the ONLY (instead of the best) (e.g. HCD, WLM, ISMF)? Regards, David On 2020-03-29 22:52, David Crayford wrote: I agree. I'm not knocking ISPF! I use it a lot, mainly SDSF as I use GUI editors. The rest of the

Re: 64-bit application dump analysis [was: RE: Problems with ESTAEX invoked in AMODE 64 . . . ]

2020-03-29 Thread David Spiegel
HI Walt, "... Merely a lack of education on the part of those administrators, in my opinion. ..." This reminds me of a contract I worked on a few years ago. I was working on a project and asked the MVS Group for permission to invoke ADRDSSU in TSO (because it wasn't in AUTHPGM). The head

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread David Spiegel
How about the ability to force the caller to supply a specific number of arguments? On 2020-03-22 14:27, Bob Bridges wrote: As far as I know there are only two useful tricks CLIST can perform that REXX can't. Well, maybe three: 1) WRITENR. So when I really need it, I use an external REXX

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-19 Thread David Spiegel
When I've been told by recruiters that I have to be on site, I try to get them to understand that for Systems Programming, there is almost no good reason to ever be on site. I also tell them that if the boss really wants to see my ugly face and that I'm not goofing off, I will start a Skype (or

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2020-03-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bobbie Jo, I agree wholeheartedly. It seems that a lot of government agencies (of all levels) demand that the employee/contractor be at their office and that working outside is somehow a really huge (undeserved) perq. As you've pointed out, your availability is much greater because you

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread David Spiegel
*JRR Tolkien On 2020-02-27 22:43, Bob Bridges wrote: I think most people spell that without any spaces at all, ie "i.e.". Also "e.g.". Me, I eschew periods in abbreviations that are common enough; "ie", "eg", "Mr", "Dr", "JRR Tolkein" and so on. I add them to my dictionary so spell-check

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-27 Thread David Spiegel
R'Shmuel, You may have to explain what "AK" means. I'm not sure that everyone is familiar with this. Regards, David On 2020-02-27 10:46, Seymour J Metz wrote: You are being pedantic, but that's ok. When I was at NSF there was a van with the license number PEDANT. I had lust in my heart for

Re: ZOA Open Automation Utilities

2020-02-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Paul, USS can also mean UNIX System Services. Regards, David On 2020-02-19 11:28, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 20:08:13 +0800, David Crayford wrote: This look interesting! IBM have a new product for running traditional batch utilities using an API that works in shell

Re: Tape dataset tracking

2020-02-13 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Brian, Maybe, (Warning: Bad pun ahead!) you could go by an old nursery rhyme "Pease porridge in the pot, nine days (h)old". Regards, David On 2020-02-13 03:33, Brian Fraser wrote: The answer is "it depends".. How often do you run scratch processing? What hardware was the tape

[SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: ALLOC command releasing space

2020-02-11 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Fred, This might occur because: - Your shop has a storage software product (e.g. Mainview SRM) which adjusts allocations automatically. - Your shop has ALLOCATION Exits (The ISPF Allocation Exit is the not the same as the TSO/Batch Allocation Exit). Regards, David On 2020-02-10 19:27,

Re: Downsizing? - OPS?

2020-02-07 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Dave, NetView is an IBM product. Regards, David On 2020-02-07 03:10, Gibney, Dave wrote: Netview is not among the CA products we have. But, I guess I wasn't clear. The direction is toward nothing that isn't z/OS. CA-OPS/MVS is something we do use and it would be inconvenient to do without

Re: Who do you trust? trivia

2020-02-01 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Skip, Here is a "famous" quote attributed to Sir Winston Churchill: This is the type of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put. Please see: https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/11/14/churchill-on-prepositions/ Regards, David On 2020-01-31 18:19, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: This construction does

Re: Connect upgrade Secure+ requirement

2020-01-28 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Steve, You can use the PDS Command Processor for this and a lot more. Please see cbttape.org (File 182). I would use the "HIS" (History) subcommand on the modules in question. Another possibility is use AMASPZAP to DUMP the module. Regards, Davie On 2020-01-28 13:17, Steve David wrote: > We

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-30 Thread David Spiegel
cf1aeb08d78d6d67df%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637133373364937026sdata=2osqvVUwpUbvKop%2F4QXBwimoVd5dEH7KFj7Hzzc6TdY%3Dreserved=0 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > David Spiegel > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 6:51 PM >

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-28 Thread David Spiegel
... as does the Terse format On 2019-12-27 16:37, Seymour J Metz wrote: > The XMIT format allows for automatically creating the correct DCB information > on restore. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >

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2019-12-24 Thread David Spiegel
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Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Binyamin AMV"SH, וכל המרבה הרי משובח א פרייליכען חנוכה Regards, David On 2019-12-23 03:23, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 02:47:15 -0500 Arthur wrote: > > :>On 22 Dec 2019 12:23:25 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > :>(Message-ID:) > :>t...@vse2pdf.com (Tony Thigpen) wrote: > >

Re: Backward compat--how far?

2019-12-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R' Shmuel  AMV"SH, "... MERDE ... " Was that a Freudian Slip or a typo? {;}-? Regards, David On 2019-12-18 17:11, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I thought that everyone using TSO Data set Utilities: COPY, FORMAT, LIST and > MERDE, 5734-UT1, had converted to ASI TSO Superset >

Re: Most-used instructions? Just for fun.

2019-12-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Charles, What about Macro expansions? What about dead code? Regards, David On 2019-12-09 11:08, Charles Mills wrote: > Not a rigorous measurement, but would be easy to write Rexx to scan a series > of code libraries and count. > > Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Scott, "... various ESMs ..." Does this mean: various External Security Managers? Regards, David On 2019-11-27 12:03, scott Ford wrote: > We use one of the system subpool SP 231 for holding messages we build from > various ESMs. The customer asked if we could share SP231 across LPARs. > My

WLM Exit Samples

2019-11-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, Does anyone have WLM Exit code samples that they're willing to share? The WLM Exit can be from Classic Federation Server or Connect Direct. Thanks and regards, David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

WLM Exit for IBM InfoSphere Classic Federation Server

2019-11-17 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, I've been asked to design/code a WLM Exit for IBM InfoSphere Classic Federation Server. I have some questions regarding this and would be grateful for any assistance. Thanks and regards, David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: DFDSS backup retore

2019-11-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Dean, In case you're running Oracle (Sun (STK)) VSM, please see: https://support.oracle.com/knowledge/Sun%20Microsystems/1284809_1.html Regards, David On 2019-11-14 08:22, Nai, Dean wrote: > Hi Carmen, > We tried using both catalog and VOL=SER=. Both failed. > > > > > > > > On 11/14/19,

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