Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, Please see PDSLOAD (CBT File 093). Regards, David On 2024-04-14 09:04, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 20:01:50 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: You can set it up for a //SYSIN DD DATA,DLM='??' and add the '??' Card at the end. That's not enough. If the input PDS contains a

Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread David Spiegel
. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It would be nice to spend billions on schools and roads, but right now that money is desperately needed for political ads. -Andy Borowitz */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent

Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread David Spiegel
IOF - But it's going away On 2024-04-09 08:15, Allan Staller wrote: Classification: Confidential Several commercial products do this . CA-DELIVER, INFOPAC (probably a couple of more I am not familiar with. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ??? ??

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Max, XMIT??? ... They would probably exceed some limit long before the transmission begins. Regards, David On 2024-03-28 09:57, Massimo Biancucci wrote: Dave, did you try the basic PING and TRACERTE to see if there's anything different ? Is it a basic FTP ? SFTP ? FTPS ? Did you try

Re: Ideas for less-distruptive disruptions - Netmaster:Solve and CICS

2024-03-25 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tom, I logged in with SHARE Userid/Password before asking the question. Regards, David On 2024-03-25 08:29, Tom Marchant wrote: SHARE proceedings are available to SHARE members only. Log in with your SHARE user ID. --

Re: Ideas for less-distruptive disruptions - Netmaster:Solve and CICS

2024-03-25 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Wayne, I followed the link and saw the description. How do I access the content? Thanks and regards, David On 2024-03-25 01:26, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: Tom Longfellow. I presented a session at Share in Phoenix in 2019 on the subject of CICS transactions written in REXX.

Re: security and privacy for the 21st century

2024-03-23 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Dave, Do you know Bill Johnson? (Your scholastic experience sounds a lot like his.) Regards, David On 2024-03-22 20:26, Dave Beagle wrote: Kids in America are too busy playing video games to learn Math which requires effort. I have numerous awards for Algebra and Geometry from tests in

Re: TSO ALLOC with/wo unit

2024-03-20 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Leonard, In the case of an uncataloged Dataset, it would be necessary. Regards, David On 2024-03-20 04:44, Leonard D Woren wrote: Specifying VOLUME more or less always requires specification of UNIT. Ignoring SMS altering the historic behavior, there is a "default unitname" associated with

Re: TSO ALLOC with/wo unit

2024-03-20 Thread David Spiegel
HI Mike, 3390 (and SYSALLDA) do not depend upon HCD. "I/O gen"? -- There has not been one since MVS/ESA V5. (MVS/ESA 4.3 was the last one to support it.) Regards, David On 2024-03-20 04:52, Mike Schwab wrote: UNIT is defined in the I/O gen and is customized by each site. 3390, SYSDA, etc

Re: Learning one's tools

2024-03-17 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tom, Not new/difficult, but, must be used appropriately or it can cause performance issues. When I worked at SIAC (NYSE) 2004-2010, one of the last mainframe activities I did was to look into why 6 Batch Jobs (run nightly) took over the machine to the point that TSO response time was

Re: SMP Packaging a PTF module replacement.

2024-02-21 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Joe, Please list the messages too. Regards, David On 2024-02-21 08:00, Joe DeChirico wrote: Hi, I have been trying to package a ptf using smpe and appear to be missing something, I have attached the job that I submitting Can anyone give me some idea about what I am doing wrong?

Re: zsh for z/OS

2024-02-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Frank, There's always that ubiquitous "or something". {;}-> Regards, David On 2024-02-16 16:35, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Interesting. So it looks like (just guessing!) bash isn't able to find external links when following the PATH. Or something. Frank

Re: Reading a scratch tape

2024-02-07 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Doug, You said: "... Clearly this is going to ..." If the user is PErmitted to use BLP (via the ESM and JES2 JOBCLASS) not so "clear". Regards, David On 2024-02-07 10:00, Doug Fuerst wrote: Clearly this is going to have to be marked as Master or User in the library and Control-M. RMM it

Re: Reading a scratch tape

2024-02-07 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gadi AMV"SH, Assuming that your ESM and JES allow BLP, you could do something like, //SYSUT1 DD DISP=SHR, // UNIT=TAPE, // VOL=SER=123456, // LABEL=(n,BLP,EXPDT=98000), // DSN=A,B To calculate "n" ... (3*File

Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes

2024-02-01 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Michael, M cuu,VOL=(SL,volser),USE=STORAGE (or PUBLIC, PRIVATE) Regards, David On 2024-02-01 11:42, Michael Watkins wrote: Before MVS/XA and RAID DASD, offline DASD volumes (e.g. 3330, 3350 & 3380 units) had to be mounted instead of simply being varied online. The mount command used the

Re: How can I determine the User Name associated with the current Batch JOB RACF ID?

2024-01-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Cameron, Can you please send me the source of your working program? My email address is da...@ddstar.com Thanks and regards, David On 2024-01-29 16:49, Cameron Conacher wrote: Thanks everyone, This is just what I needed. Appreciate the help. Thanks …….Cameron From: IBM Mainframe

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Radek, - Run ICKDSF to take the VTOC out of Indexed Format (BUILDOS) - ZAP the VTOC  (i.e. FORMAT4.DSCB) to change the DSNAME to something innocuous. - Compress via IEBCOPY - ZAP the DSNAME to SYS1.LINKLIB - Run ICKDSF to put the VTOC into Indexed Format (BUILDIX) I've done this, but, not

Re: Why do I have IEE159E MESSAGE WAITING

2024-01-02 Thread David Spiegel
wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 12:55:37 -0500, David Spiegel wrote: There are ways to flood the console other than ROUTCODE(ALL). What is your point? Clearly, the OP doesn't understand console flooding otherwise he would not have ROUTCDE(ALL). I gave the OP what he needs to learn to understand why he

Re: Why do I have IEE159E MESSAGE WAITING

2024-01-02 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Doug, What makes you think that it was altered? Regards, David From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Doug Sent: January 2, 2024 12:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Why do I have IEE159E MESSAGE WAITING Use the ‘K S’ command at

Re: Why do I have IEE159E MESSAGE WAITING

2024-01-02 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jon, There are ways to flood the console other than ROUTCODE(ALL). Regards, David On 2024-01-02 12:49, Jon Perryman wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 11:36:34 -0500, Joseph Reichman wrote: I have CON(N) and DEL(RD). Wondering why this happening The most likely cause is ROUTCODE(ALL) and

Re: Why do I have IEE159E MESSAGE WAITING

2024-01-02 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Joe AMV"SH, Because all messages on your screen need to be cleared manually, or, use DEL(R). Regards, David On 2024-01-02 11:36, Joseph Reichman wrote: HI I have the following message on the console IEE612I CN=C908 DEVNUM=0908 SYS=S0W1 IEE163I MODE= RD

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Steve, JWT too low would cause 522s, not 322s. Regards, David On 2023-12-29 16:51, Steve Beaver wrote: Sorry my bad. I was the thinking about JWT Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb On Dec 29, 2023, at 15:49, Steve Beaver wrote: Be careful setting in low. If

Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX

2023-12-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH. Gut Voch. Ich Vil Dich Freigen Ein Kasho. You said: "...TSOLIB inline. ..." What does this mean and why is it better/easier to do this in CLIST than in Rexx? Regards, David On 2023-12-29 16:13, Seymour J Metz wrote: In my case there is a CLIST effectively called from the

Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX

2023-12-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi KB, CSI won't tell you anything about ALLOCATEd DDNAMES. Regards, David On 2023-12-29 09:55, kekronbekron wrote: There's a catalog search interface (CSI), and I think there's a sample REXX for using it in SAMPLIB. On Friday, December 29th, 2023 at 20:17, Seymour J Metz wrote: I need

Re: What is the PDS command?

2023-12-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, Of course they do. The PDS Command Processor, however, does it directly in the same Dataset without switching panels (REPR Command). Regards, David On 2023-12-27 08:36, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 05:57:03 -0500, David Spiegel wrote: ..,, the ability to copy

Re: Fwd: What is the PDS command?

2023-12-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Ed, You and your programmer were not impressed?! How can you not be impressed by the ability to add Directory Blocks (by moving members out of the way), the ability to generate JCL to LinkEdit PDS members, the ability to copy members (with ISPF Stats) or the ability to recover deleted

Re: RACROUTE REQUEST=AUTH problem

2023-12-01 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jon, Muli-User *Single Address Space. Regards, David On 2023-12-01 02:19, Jon Perryman wrote: The one thing no one has mentioned is MUSASS configuration (Multi-User address spaces). Has the customer configured MUSASS changes like naming table, exits or ???. For instance, is the STC

Combine Multiple SORTs into One Step

2023-11-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, I have a Job with 5 SORT STEPs. I would like to combine them into one STEP. Here is one of the STEPs: //STEP001 EXEC PGM=SORT //SYSOUT   DD  SYSOUT=* //SORTMSG  DD  SYSOUT=* //SORTIN   DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYSA.XML //SYSB DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYSB.XML //SYSIN    DD  *    OPTION COPY    INREC 

Re: Israel

2023-10-10 Thread David Spiegel
+1 On 2023-10-10 13:08, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: It is not unreasonable to be concerned about the health and safety of the community here. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com/ Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character

Re: Creating USSMSG10 ASM code from Screen text using CLIST or REXX

2023-10-06 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tom, "... at least one terminal emulator ..."=Vista? Thanks and regards, David On 2023-10-06 02:51, Tom Brennan wrote: This isn't the answer you're looking for, but what I do is create an ISPF panel with the screen image and fields and colors that I want, then I use ISPF 7.2 to display the

Re: Utility to Read from JES2 spool

2023-10-01 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Wayne, That's the command I learned in the mid-'70s before I had access to SPF. I've also used it at DR Sites when one or more PDSs in one or more of my ISPF concatenations has not yet been restored, leaving me stuck in TSO. Regards, David On 2023-09-30 04:59, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: For

Re: PL/X

2023-10-01 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Peter, I was generalizing the problem. Allowing access to PL/ wouyld also solve the lack of PDFs. This reminds me of a joke. Q: What does IBM Stand for? A: Ich Bin M'shugoh Regards, David On 2023-09-30 08:18, Peter Relson wrote: There is another solution What are you thinking the

Re: PL/X

2023-09-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Peter, There is another solution ... make PL/ available especially to students/enthusiasts/hobbyists. While doing that, provide an "amateur" version of z/OS for the same crowd and allow *anyone* to run it on Hercules (or equivalent) on Intel/AMD hardware. It's not yet (but almost) too

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-14 Thread David Spiegel
Yours included? On 2023-09-14 13:29, Bill Johnson wrote: AI will surpass human intelligence. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/14/softbanks-masayoshi-son-says-tech-can-surpass-human-intelligence.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread David Spiegel
most never happen. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 8:53 AM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Jon, Now that you've mentioned DB2, please tell me how to write/maintain a DB2 Secondary Authorization Exit WITHOUT Assembl

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jon, Now that you've mentioned DB2, please tell me how to write/maintain a DB2 Secondary Authorization Exit WITHOUT Assembler. Next time my customer asks me to amend it, I will be sure to give them your answer. (I added logic to it to allow Informatica to authenticate via ACF2.) Regards,.

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jon, In one paragraph, you're talking about application code. In another paragraph, you're discussing system-level  programming. My argument has nothing to do with application code; I've always maintained that application code should be written in a High Level Language. As to your second

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, Nice job cherry picking. Since you don't know Assembler, here is a fact you are (willfully) omitting. PL/S, PL/X, PL/AS etc. has never been been made available to all IBM customers. (I know that select customers have successfully obtained a licence.) Unless one works at IBM, there is

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, Your claim of salary being equal to real SysProgs does not categorically prove that Assembler is useless. It is very easy to destroy this vacuous argument. Let's say you were employed in New York and your colleague (Assembler expert) was employed in West Virginia. In this case, you

Re: What became of "mutually exclusive"?

2023-09-11 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, You said: "...I recall seeing in days of your ..." My? ... My what? {;}-> ? I think that you meant "yore" instead of "your", n'est-ce pas? Regards, David On 2023-09-11 14:21, Paul Gilmartin wrote: In the JCL Ref, I recall seeing in days of your a matrix of mutually exclusive parameters

Re: Ray Mullins on Assembler demand.

2023-09-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tony, W2=T4. Regards, David From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tony Harminc Sent: September 8, 2023 4:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Ray Mullins on Assembler demand. On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 14:40, Steve Thompson wrote: > >

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread David Spiegel
Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 7, 2023, 6:50 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Bill, You said: "... because it used less resources ..." Shmegegge, you should've said "fewer". That is the correct usage. For a guy who knows

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread David Spiegel
ebra and Geometry. Early 70’s. I still have the awards program. I’m very proud of it and my Math expertise paid off handsomely. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 7, 2023, 6:50 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Bill, You sai

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, You said: "... because it used less resources ..." Shmegegge, you should've said "fewer". That is the correct usage. For a guy who knows so much about about a multitude of topics, it behooves you to write more correctly. It might even increase your credibility. Regards, David On

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread David Spiegel
to arrive. And the dinosaurs here trying so hard to not become extinct. Notice how the 20-30 experts can’t say, Bill Johnson is right. Because it makes them wrong and narcissists don’t like saying they were wrong. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 9:14 PM, Dav

Re: Next SMP/E question

2023-09-05 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Phil, That is true provided the DDDEFs are instead coded as JCL. Regards, David On 2023-09-05 20:47, Phil Smith III wrote: Mark Jacobs wrote: Apply check doesn't open any target traditional datasets, or Unix System Services paths, so it's WAD. Whether it should is a different question.

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, You said: "...Your comprehension of basic English are terrible. ..." Doorknob, it should have been "is terrible". Another case of the pot calling the kettle black. Open mouth, change feet. Regards, David On 2023-09-05 20:46, Bill Johnson wrote: I never once said it would assemble or

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tom, +1 You forget that it took Bill and 2 colleagues to modify IEFUSI. Regards, David On 2023-09-05 20:21, Tom Brennan wrote: Oh that's funny!  Then what are these notes from you I found in my trash folder?  Sounds like you were sure it would assemble and run perfectly, and also be able

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tom, It looks like ChatGPT is not aware of "Housekeeping". Regards, David On 2023-09-05 13:47, Tom Brennan wrote: GET and PUT use R14, so as Tom Marchant said, if the program managed to get that far it would never return to the OS. On 9/5/2023 10:21 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 5

Re: Ray Mullins on Assembler demand.

2023-09-05 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Ray, You said: "... SAMPLIB(IEEACTRT) ..." Don't you mean SAMPLIB(SMFEXITS) //IEFACTRT? (IEEx is Console-related; IEFx is SMF-related) Regards, David On 2023-09-05 13:23, M. Ray Mullins wrote: There's a bit of context that is lost here. I purposely said "invisible hand", playing on

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread David Spiegel
. So that cut and paste isn’t a factor. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 12:02 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Steve, It won't. The first executable statement is missing a comma between operands. Regards, David O

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Steve, It won't. The first executable statement is missing a comma between operands. Regards, David On 2023-09-05 11:43, Steve Thompson wrote: I doubt it will assemble. And even if it does, the results are unpredictable, other than it will probably ABEND for one reason or another.

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-03 Thread David Spiegel
the idiotic 2 year tech degree that many colleges created to fast track kids into a burgeoning IT industry. But keep trying to downplay me idiot. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, September 3, 2023, 5:24 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-03 Thread David Spiegel
HI Bill, More vacuous and specious arguments. You said: "... In fact, making changes to delivered software can be dangerous. ..." Writing/modifying Exits is not the same as your statement. It is evident from what you've written, that you've never been a Systems Programmer, the highest

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, More nonsense! If you were to support Exits and redo them when necessary, you wouldn't be making such broad generalizations. Regards, David On 2023-09-01 10:43, Bill Johnson wrote: Which proves my point from a prior thread that coding and using assembler is almost nonexistent.

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-08-31 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Michael, What about //JOBLIB? ... That is not in any Step. Regards, David On 2023-08-31 15:16, Schmitt, Michael wrote: It they had used DD, imagine all the customer code that would break that parses JCL looking for DDs, and never expects to see a DD outside of a step. And all the code that

Re: On-Prem to Cloud Mainframe Migration Experiences

2023-08-30 Thread David Spiegel
Clearly? ... If a few know-it-alls would stop spewing their hot air illogical theories, the temperature might come down a bit. On 2023-08-30 09:18, Bill Johnson wrote: Wow, clearly global warming is fact while there is zero evidence of any gods in the history of the world. Sent from Yahoo

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-28 Thread David Spiegel
e different availability characteristics." Could it be that Jon Perryman is actually Bill Johnson in disguise, using ChatGPT to compose his posts? Does he have a Linkedin profile where we can read he's credentials? On 8/26/2023 7:31 PM, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Jon, You said: "...Th

Re: "XYZZY"?

2023-08-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi David, Fo'  "shizzy" {;-}-> Regards, David On 2023-08-27 01:59, David Cole wrote: For 50 years, I've always used the five syllable pronunciation. Dave Cole At 8/24/2023 05:21 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: It's only just now occurring to me to wonder:  How should "XYZZY" be pronounced?  I've

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-26 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jon, Another misspeak ... You said: " ...You never see a PTF that is 1MB. ..." I've seen PTFs that are a lot bigger than 1 Mb. Regards, David On 2023-08-25 21:55, Jon Perryman wrote: On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:57:33 AM PDT, Steve Thompson wrote: With Linux distros there are a few

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-26 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jon, You said: "...The M in SMP/e stands for Maintenance ..." This statement has NEVER been true. The M is an abbreviation of Modification and it has ALWAYS been this way. Regards, David On 2023-08-25 21:55, Jon Perryman wrote: On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:57:33 AM PDT, Steve Thompson

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-08-25 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Phil, You said: "...The SYMBOLS= stuff might help here ..." "might"??? -- No! ... "will" Here is another one you might like. (I use it to rename Cataloged Procedures during software upgrades.) //  EXPORT SYMLIST=* // SET DSN=my.PROCLIB // SET VOLUME=xx // SET

Re: "XYZZY"?

2023-08-25 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Brian, You said: "...(when your really bored) ..." *you're Regards, David I On 2023-08-25 00:41, Brian Westerman wrote: I hear a bunch of odd ways people pronounce our company name "Syzygy", a lot of them put an "R" in there at the middle and some have it start with a "Z", and some get more

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-08-24 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Phil, Maybe the "***NOTE***" was written before the advent of the EXPORT Statement. Had the //SMPCNTL been written with "&" instead of "!...", the substitutions could be done via EXPORT, SET and SYMBOLS=JCLONLY. Here is a possible solution: // EXPORT SYMLIST=* // SET HLQ=SYSX // SET

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-08-24 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Phil, I beg to differ. You can use SET at the top of every Job to set ALL variables (as my previous email said). Can you please give me an example of what you're saying. Another thing ... Do you remember IPOUPDTE? (It was a batch "editor" to change all of the HLQ from ABC to DEF. This

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-08-24 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Phil, You said: "... as literal is never valid in those places, ..." You've made an incorrect assumption. If the user codes: // EXPORT SYMLIST=* // SET HLQ=SYSX // EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSIN DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY  DEL This will work. Regards, David On 2023-08-24 15:35, Phil Smith III wrote:

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-08-24 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tom, "... And what was that option so it didn't read/write each PDS directory entry separately and take all day?  ..." DIS (Directories in Storage) Please see: GC28-0673-6 OS/VS System Modification Program (SMP) System Programmer's Guide (prycroft6.com.au)

Re: Generating WTO Messages to do message suppression

2023-08-21 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Mark, Another possibility ... Run DFSMSdss (ADRDSSU)and use the WTO/WTOR Command. Regards,. David On 2023-08-21 12:40, Mark Regan wrote: Is there a way to generate WTO messages via a batch job to check message suppression? At my last site, where we had NetView, we used a CLIST (or was it

Re: Has anyone

2023-08-17 Thread David Spiegel
Hi David, I learned VIM because my job was expanded to add responsibility for Linux and AIX software installation and maintenance. (I am no expert, but), ISPF Edit has the ability to do an an intelligent change where changing A to AB (or vice versa) it tries to keep the rest of the line the

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

2023-08-14 Thread David Spiegel
as one of various ancient origin myths. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, August 14, 2023, 9:12 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Bill, You said: "... Cain & Abel which is fictional. ..." Do you have proof for this assertion? Reg

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

2023-08-14 Thread David Spiegel
erders and sedentary farmers. The Academic theologian Joseph Blenkinsopp holds that Cain and Abel are symbolic rather than real. And Noah never collected 2 of every species. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, August 14, 2023, 9:12 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@list

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

2023-08-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, You said: "... Cain & Abel which is fictional. ..." Do you have proof for this assertion? Regards, David On 2023-08-14 20:02, Bill Johnson wrote: I worked with many brilliant computer people over the years. I also worked with people like most of the usual posters here. People who got

Re: USS Features

2023-08-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jon, You said: "...Programmers leave z/OS for Unix in order to be in full control. Why do you think it's difficult to get z/OS programmers. ..." I've been doing MVS Systems Programming  for 40+ years and have not once heard any  programmer leave for more control. Could this be a west-coast

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

2023-08-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, Here is a quote from Blazing Saddles: "Lozim Geiyen". If you're so enthralled with Europe why not just leave already and stop torturing yourself in this deplorable continent? Regards, David On 2023-08-08 10:38, Bill Johnson wrote: You’re right, Europe is different. They actually

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

2023-08-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, +3 ... for Canada's PM. Regards, David On 2023-08-08 11:18, Seymour J Metz wrote: It was obvious in 2016, but we don't have a monopoly on electing bad leaders. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

2023-08-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, AFAIK, this forum is not for discussing US politics. If it were, I would retort. Regards, David On 2023-08-08 10:48, Bill Johnson wrote: I have many times. And heading to Spain in October. Funny story, we went to Switzerland right after trump got elected. Many people asked us WTF are

Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx

2023-08-04 Thread David Spiegel
UA.EDU Subject: Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 19:21:27 +, David Spiegel wrote: > >My intention is to read a Job and make sure that all datasets are available, >but, the dsnames contain SET variables. > By "read a Job" do you mean that JCL resides in a fil

Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx

2023-08-03 Thread David Spiegel
A.EDU Subject: Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx David, So this is not a run time issue, but a scan of a jcl before submition? ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM coming soon * On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 10:21

Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx

2023-08-03 Thread David Spiegel
Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 1:58:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 17:11:08 +, David Spiegel wrote: > >Does anyone know how to access the JCL SET variables from

Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx

2023-08-03 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, Does anyone know how to access the JCL SET variables from Rexx. Thanks in advance, David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jon, A SPECIAL (in the directory) can also be DETACHd. Regards, David On 2023-07-27 20:51, Jon Perryman wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 04:03:52 PM PDT, David Spiegel wrote: You said: "...Detaching a "console" requires a "DEFINE CONSOLE" ..." AFAI

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jon, You said: "...Detaching a "console" requires a "DEFINE CONSOLE" ..." AFAIK, (since VM R6.0) this statement has never been true. Regards, David On 2023-07-26 23:37, Jon Perryman wrote: > On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 07:14:21 PM PDT, Steve Horein wrote: Just out of curiosity, is

Re: Apply job failed GIM240001E for connect direct 6.2

2023-07-25 Thread David Spiegel
. On Tue, 25 Jul, 2023, 11:47 pm David Spiegel, < 0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Satish, Please concatenate 'DGA.SDGAMAC' or equivalent (listed under SDGAMAC Target Zone DDDEF) to Target Zone SYSLIB DDDEF and retry. Regards, David On 2023-07-25 08:10, Sathish Kumar

Re: Apply job failed GIM240001E for connect direct 6.2

2023-07-25 Thread David Spiegel
: Hi David, I have already tried to add SYSLIB CONCAT to SDGAMAC and run this job it's failed with same error. Thanks. On Tue, 25 Jul, 2023, 11:47 pm David Spiegel, < 0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Satish, Please concatenate 'DGA.SDGAMAC' or equivalent (

Re: Apply job failed GIM240001E for connect direct 6.2

2023-07-25 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Satish, Please concatenate 'DGA.SDGAMAC'  or equivalent (listed under SDGAMAC Target Zone DDDEF) to Target Zone SYSLIB DDDEF and retry. Regards, David On 2023-07-25 08:10, Sathish Kumar wrote: Hi, I have updated SYSLIB CONCAT SYS1.MODGEN and rerun the job it's failed with same error.

Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-07-25 Thread David Spiegel
Of David Spiegel Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 11:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives Hi Michael, You said: "...CICS is to IMS as Windows 3.1 is to Windows 10. ..." You're comparing apples and oranges.

Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-07-25 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Michael, You said: "...CICS is to IMS as Windows 3.1 is to Windows 10. ..." You're comparing apples and oranges. (CICS has no native Database portion.) BTW, a lot of the banks, insurance companies etc. are running CICS+DB2. The majority of IMS users need it to support 40+ year old application

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-25 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Phil, z/VM has ALWAYS (since VM R6.0.) had the CONSOLE at 009 in the Directory entry for users by convention. You could DEF 9 3E1 to change it. Regards, David On 2023-07-25 12:00, Phil Smith III wrote: Jon Perryman wrote: Steve says there is 1 exception to the hardware console requiring

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch

2023-07-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Paul, You said: "...What is the motivation for using CBT 452 STEPLIB, ever? Should CBT withdraw 452 from circulation? ..." The CBT Tape is useful for programming techniques, even if the code isn't actually used. No, it should not be withdrawn. Are you trying to censor it? Regards, David

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch

2023-07-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jim, Why is "STEPLIB" dangerous? Please explain in detail. Thanks and regards, David On 2023-07-19 13:49, Jim Mulder wrote: Yes, TSOLIB is part of TSO/E and is correctly implemented by ATTACHing subsequent commands with a TASKLIB. The TSO/E developer who was designing TSOLIB wanted to

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch

2023-07-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Pete, You said: "...Certainly there is nothing that is supported (and that likely includes whatever TSOLIB does ..." It seems as if you're saying that TSOLIB (distributed with z/OS) is potentially not supported. Did I misunderstand? Please explain. Thanks and regards, David On 2023-07-19

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch

2023-07-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Binyamin AMV"SH, Please see CBT File 452 (and 797). Regards, David On 2023-07-18 11:49, Binyamin Dissen wrote: I am trying to do the equivalent of TSOLIB for BATCH, i.e., dynamically adding loadlibs. I do not have spare parent tasks that I can hang a JLB DCB. It appears that the system is

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tom, Can you workload shift running Jobs from one LPAR to another? (Please note too this customer's Initiator setup is different on every LPAR.) Regards, David On 2023-07-18 09:52, Tom Marchant wrote: In a Sysplex environment it is possible to shift the workload off of one system so that

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Brian, One of my customers decided (many years ago) to upgrade software/apply maintenance once a year (on each of their 4 complexes). There are not enough weekends in the year to do this more frequently (due to other groups doing upgrades and "blocked out" weekends). Regards, David On

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread David Spiegel
umber was unique in Canada. My Retain ID had to be changed because someone else (probably an American) already was using my Man Number to LOGON. Regards, David On 2023-07-14 09:45, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 06:43:49 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: EEOC is an American thing. In

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, You said: "...Auditors don't like multiple user ids..." It's not the first time auditors have had illogical ideas. OTOH, 2 or more people sharing a Userid is BAD. Regards, David On 2023-07-14 08:38, Seymour J Metz wrote: Auditors don't like multiple user ids, but sysprogs

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread David Spiegel
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:56:55 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: When I worked at IBM Canada full time (1994-2002), our TSO Userids were XXn, where n was a person's "man number" (aka employee number). No EEOC. Five

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-13 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, When I worked at IBM Canada full time (1994-2002), our TSO Userids were XXn, where n was a person's "man number" (aka employee number). Regards, David On 2023-07-13 20:32, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 20:17:38 -0400, Matt Hogstrom wrote: A place I worked used

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-13 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Richard, I worked at a place where the SysProg-in-chief was an arrogant guy from the Former Soviet Union. His Userid was "A". Regards, David On 2023-07-13 19:49, rpinion865 wrote: I worked at a place where the VP didn't like using anything related to names, due to name changes and the

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-13 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Phil, I worked at a multi--national food company in the early '90s. Their Userid scheme was first 5 letters of surname, first letter of first name. One guy, Mr. M. Pinchbeck became irate when people kept referring to him (PINCHBM) as "Pinch Bum". I didn't get excited about mine (SPIEGED).

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