Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-27 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Thanks Mike. ABARS is great for this type of use case. ABACKUP with the MOVE option will backup all data types (no recall for migrated data) and delete the original copies, including the migrated data sets. Thus creating a single backup of all of the related data. Essentially, an Archive

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Mike Schwab
ABARS does not recall datasets. ABARS copies the VTape ML1/2/backup to the new archive tape. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=guide-aggregate-backup-recovery-support-abars On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:59 PM Jack Zukt wrote: > Hi, > You coul use HSM ABARs. It will recall any migrated

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 22:47:59 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >Well, Keith metioned *a switch*. Turning on the switch implies that everyone agreed that the feature benefits are more important than the risks. This is acceptable because IBM warned you and your company accepted the risks.

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 23.11.2023 o 22:32, Jon Perryman pisze: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 19:47:24 +, Keith Gooding wrote: I certainly would like the option to tell dss to recall datasets I feel your pain but I personally agree with IBM's decision. Realize this is z/OS with specialists instead UNIX with its

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 19:47:24 +, Keith Gooding wrote: >I certainly would like the option to tell dss to recall datasets I feel your pain but I personally agree with IBM's decision. Realize this is z/OS with specialists instead UNIX with its jack of all trades. DASD sysprog, performance

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Keith Gooding
Jon. I certainly would like the option to tell dss to recall datasets so that they can be copied or backed up. A common use case for me is to back up , or copy and rename, a set of software libraries for archiving or distribution to another system (a bit like a zOSMF portable software

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 23.11.2023 o 20:11, Jon Perryman pisze: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 17:57:53 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: I need to dump a lot of small dataset with HLQ=user_to_be_deleted. Since the user is no longer active, most of. datasets are migrated to ML1 and ML2. Do you really need another backup

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
That's the trick! I forgot about HRECALL and generics. Thank you. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 23.11.2023 o 19:18, Keith Gooding pisze: I usually run a batch TSO step which issues command HRECALL ‘HLQ.** WAIT’ immediately before the dump step. You may get a lot of messages

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:18:23 +, Keith Gooding wrote: >I do not know why IBM do not have an option for adrdssu to go the recall >automatically - there have been some requests on IBM ideas. The last thing you want is for ADRDSSU to become long running waiting on multiple recalls from

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 17:57:53 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >I need to dump a lot of small dataset with HLQ=user_to_be_deleted. >Since the user is no longer active, most of. datasets are migrated to ML1 >and ML2. Do you really need another backup since HSM already backed them up? If HRECALL

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Jack Zukt
Hi, You coul use HSM ABARs. It will recall any migrated dataset that matches your filter. Best wishes Jack On Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 16:58 Radoslaw Skorupka < 0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I need to dump a lot of small dataset with HLQ=user_to_be_deleted. > Since the user

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Keith Gooding
I usually run a batch TSO step which issues command HRECALL ‘HLQ.** WAIT’ immediately before the dump step. You may get a lot of messages sent to your TSO session - either saying dataset not migrated or that migration is complete. There is also a ADRDSSU patch ( from memory patch area offset

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Well, First, I DON'T WANT TO DELETE datasets. I wan to dump them to archive file. Second, I want to avoid manual typing/clicking. :-) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 23.11.2023 o 18:01, Steve Beaver pisze: Bring the list up in 3.4 then do a hdelete By every dsn and hit enter Sent

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Steve Beaver
Bring the list up in 3.4 then do a hdelete By every dsn and hit enter Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Nov 23, 2023, at 10:57, Radoslaw Skorupka > <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I need to dump a lot of small dataset with

DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
I need to dump a lot of small dataset with HLQ=user_to_be_deleted. Since the user is no longer active, most of datasets are migrated to ML1 and ML2. By default ADRDSSU does not process migrated datasets. Is there any method to circumvent it? It can be anything, including scripted "touch". --