Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin 
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 16:20:41 -0500, Lionel B Dyck wrote:

>Haven't looked into pipes in omvs (unix) but that is an interesting idea.
> 
You'll find a collection of utilities quite different from what you're used to.

It's tediious but possible to use omvs pipes to connect Classic OS utilities.
No one has shown me that TSO Pipelines can connect omvs utilities.

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Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck 
Haven't looked into pipes in omvs (unix) but that is an interesting idea.

thx


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Can’t you also use Unix Pipes? Just a thought Lionel

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 1:52 PM Lionel B Dyck  wrote:

> Martin - thank you
>
>
> Lionel B. Dyck <
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>
> "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is 
> what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John 
> Wooden
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Martin Packer
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 12:43 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes
>
> You're best of searching with the string "batchpipeworks" as that's 
> what it was called when SmartBatch was created. I believe the term 
> survived into BatchPipes/MVS V2.
>
> Not all CMS Pipelines functions are supported.
>
> Cheers, Martin
>
> Martin Packer
>
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> or
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> 794357
> 3?mt=2
> <https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id11
> 27943573?mt=2>
>
>
> Youtube channel: 
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>
>
> From:   Lionel B Dyck 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date:   22/03/2020 17:24
> Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes
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> That telecourse looks outstanding - thank you
>
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> Lionel B. Dyck <
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>
> "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is 
> what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John 
> Wooden
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Dave Jones
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:51 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes
>
> You might find this of some use, Lionel :
>  CMS Pipelines Telecourse (an HTML selfstudy course) V1.3
>   
> https://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2
>
> DJ
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Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread scott Ford 
Can’t you also use Unix Pipes? Just a thought Lionel

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 1:52 PM Lionel B Dyck  wrote:

> Martin - thank you
>
>
> Lionel B. Dyck <
> Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com
>
> "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what
> you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of
> Martin Packer
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 12:43 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes
>
> You're best of searching with the string "batchpipeworks" as that's what it
> was called when SmartBatch was created. I believe the term survived into
> BatchPipes/MVS V2.
>
> Not all CMS Pipelines functions are supported.
>
> Cheers, Martin
>
> Martin Packer
>
> zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM
>
> +44-7802-245-584
>
> email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
>
> Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
>
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> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
>
> Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/
> or
>
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id112794357
> 3?mt=2
> <https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2>
>
>
> Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA
>
>
>
> From:   Lionel B Dyck 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date:   22/03/2020 17:24
> Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes
> Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
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>
>
> That telecourse looks outstanding - thank you
>
>
> Lionel B. Dyck <
> Website:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lbdsoftware.com=Dw
>
> IFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=BsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ&
>
> m=pvIHxGgF3aJff3x0OLzJEPZPeaTiZBaOn7cLSXVwS_4=JToobsms7DK2vd66akWU37MZPctq
> GvCvZcJf1BvVpUU=
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lbdsoftware.com=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=BsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ=pvIHxGgF3aJff3x0OLzJEPZPeaTiZBaOn7cLSXVwS_4=JToobsms7DK2vd66akWU37MZPctqGvCvZcJf1BvVpUU=>
>
>
> "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what
> you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of
> Dave Jones
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:51 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes
>
> You might find this of some use, Lionel :
>  CMS Pipelines Telecourse (an HTML selfstudy course) V1.3
>   https://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2
>
> DJ
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Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck 
Martin - thank you


Lionel B. Dyck <
Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com

"Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what
you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
Martin Packer
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 12:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

You're best of searching with the string "batchpipeworks" as that's what it
was called when SmartBatch was created. I believe the term survived into
BatchPipes/MVS V2.

Not all CMS Pipelines functions are supported.

Cheers, Martin

Martin Packer

zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM

+44-7802-245-584

email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com

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https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id112794357
3?mt=2


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From:   Lionel B Dyck 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   22/03/2020 17:24
Subject:    [EXTERNAL] Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List 



That telecourse looks outstanding - thank you


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IFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=BsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ&
m=pvIHxGgF3aJff3x0OLzJEPZPeaTiZBaOn7cLSXVwS_4=JToobsms7DK2vd66akWU37MZPctq
GvCvZcJf1BvVpUU= 


"Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what
you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
Dave Jones
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

You might find this of some use, Lionel :
 CMS Pipelines Telecourse (an HTML selfstudy course) V1.3
  https://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2

DJ

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Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Martin Packer 
You're best of searching with the string "batchpipeworks" as that's what 
it was called when SmartBatch was created. I believe the term survived 
into BatchPipes/MVS V2.

Not all CMS Pipelines functions are supported.

Cheers, Martin

Martin Packer

zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM

+44-7802-245-584

email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com

Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker

Blog: 
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker

Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/or 
  
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2


Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA



From:   Lionel B Dyck 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   22/03/2020 17:24
Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List 



That telecourse looks outstanding - thank you


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Website: 
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"Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what 
you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden

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Of Dave Jones
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

You might find this of some use, Lionel :
 CMS Pipelines Telecourse (an HTML selfstudy course) V1.3
  https://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2

DJ

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Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck 
That telecourse looks outstanding - thank you


Lionel B. Dyck <
Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com

"Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what you 
are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden

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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

You might find this of some use, Lionel :
CMS Pipelines Telecourse (an HTML selfstudy course) V1.3
  https://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2

DJ

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Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Dave Jones 
You might find this of some use, Lionel :
CMS Pipelines Telecourse (an HTML selfstudy course) V1.3
  https://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2

DJ

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Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin 
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 08:20:36 -0500, Lionel B Dyck wrote:

>I have access to a system where BP is installed and discovered that TSO
>Pipes works - to a limited degree.  CALLPIPE and ADDPIPE are missing even
>though both are clearly documented in the reference manual. Does anyone have
>any pointers to any doc that would document what parts of Pipes are missing
>with BP?
> 
First, ask on  http://vm.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?CMSPIP-L
Subscription info at bottom.  Also, try (2016):
http://www.vm.ibm.com/library/710pdfs/71625200.pdf

Dammit!  Google is getting nasty wrapping URLs so they can track!

Does anyone know how to associate a Pipelines connector
with an OMVS/Openextensions descriptor?

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BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck 
I have access to a system where BP is installed and discovered that TSO
Pipes works - to a limited degree.  CALLPIPE and ADDPIPE are missing even
though both are clearly documented in the reference manual. Does anyone have
any pointers to any doc that would document what parts of Pipes are missing
with BP?

 

Now that I can use Pipes under TSO I'm being reminded of its power that I
found during my few years using it under z/VM where I only had a very basic
introduction to it. Now I'm trying to learn more but finding a lack of
learning resources other than trial and error. There are some SHARE
presentations and some info on the Marist site that is helpful. Does anyone
have a pointer to a Pipes for novices?

 

 

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