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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Linda
FWIW,
I have always heard that is lucky to own black cats. They are expected to
cross one'e enemies paths
before they might otherwise come to your door. ;)
Dogs have owners. Cats have staff. :-)
Hi John,
Yes! So true. :))
Linda
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On May 1, 2014, at 5:04 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Linda
FWIW,
I have always heard that is lucky to own black cats. They are expected to
Ron Hawkins wrote:
Reminds me of a Hong Kong building I was living in.
The floors went 11, 12, 12a, 14, 15...
Weird. If you truly believe in God, you really don't need all those
superstitions.
Perhaps, it is only me, but for me, avoidance or relying in specific numbers
are IMHO just a waste
On 4/30/2014 12:50 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Ron Hawkins wrote:
Reminds me of a Hong Kong building I was living in.
The floors went 11, 12, 12a, 14, 15...
Weird. If you truly believe in God, you really don't need all those
superstitions.
If you think God is also a superstition, you
The members of the Einsatzgruppen at Babi Yar wore belt buckles
inscribed with the legend 'Gott mit uns' in high relief. God can be
and often is invoked by villains; the devil can quote scripture; etc.,
etc.
Let's leave God out of our discussions here. His|Her invocation is
ineffective: it
, 2014 11:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Beyond the EC12
Ron Hawkins wrote:
Reminds me of a Hong Kong building I was living in.
The floors went 11, 12, 12a, 14, 15...
Weird. If you truly believe in God, you really don't need all those
superstitions.
Perhaps
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Ron Hawkins wrote:
Reminds me of a Hong Kong building I was living in.
The floors went 11, 12, 12a, 14
Because 1.14 would not sit well with the Cantonese...
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Since it's the weekend: in Ireland, license plates are assigned to a car and
never change when ownership changes, and the license numbers have
always been YY
John Kelly, Senior VP and Director, IBM Research, previewed IBM's
technology plans for the mainframe in his presentation at the Mainframe
50 celebration in New York on April 8, 2014. You can watch an online video
replay of that event here:
http://www.ibm.com/mainframe50
For what it's worth,
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#49 Beyond the EC12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#50 Beyond the EC12
for additional 4341 drift ... old post in (linkedin) IBM Historic
Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#46 From The Annals of Release No
Software Before Its Time
W dniu 2014-04-26 03:43, zMan pisze:
I've heard rumors that the names are often not determined until shortly
before release anyway, after some not-so-fun marketing meetings...
Does it really matter? Would IBM sell any more piece of EC12 if they had
chosen more sexy name?
Was z196 a flop
://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
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If the superstition about 13 was considered, why did they come out with z/OS
1.13? :)
Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer 3
Information Technology
University
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If the superstition about 13 was considered, why did they come out with
z/OS 1.13? :)
Al Nims
zMan's question is a good one, but the reversion to just 14 for the
year 2014 does add credence to the notion that superstition was the
rationale for the one-off 2013 scheme.
The distinction that needs to be remembered is that in Eire, Italy and
a number of other European countries these plates
of a newer car than the 131's of the first
half.
Barry
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That's interesting .Why did
aledlhug...@aol.com (Aled Hughes) writes:
Back in the early '80s, I was told that IBM's Model Range for the 3083
- E, B and J - used the initial letter of the Product Managers' last
names for the models. Anyone know if this was true?
some 3083 topic drift
this account has 3081 ( 3033) using
Werent they developed at La Gaude ? I was there in the 90s
Regards,
Scott
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aledlhug...@aol.com (Aled Hughes) writes:
Back in the early '80s, I was told that IBM's Model
scott_j_f...@yahoo.com (Scott Ford) writes:
Werent they developed at La Gaude ? I was there in the 90s
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.htm#49 Beyond the EC12
4341 was being done in Endicott, maybe thinking about (slower) 4331
that was being done in Europe (Boeblingen) on 4361 (4331
Has anyone heard any good rumors about what will be coming out next year as the
latest and greatest model?
z296?
Ec14?
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On 4/25/2014 8:09 AM, Klein, Kenneth E wrote:
Has anyone heard any good rumors about what will be coming out next year as the
latest and greatest model?
z296?
Ec14?
You bring up an interest point to contemplate as IBM eventually
considers official names for its 13th-generation machine (if
The z196/z114 names were just plain confusing, so yeah, I'd assume they
wouldn't do that. If they were going to have an aberration, they should
have done that for 13.
Let's see, z10EC/BC, zEC12/zBC12...maybe z1EC3/z1BC3 to hide the 13?!
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Ed Jaffe
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The z196/z114 names were just plain confusing, so yeah, I'd assume they
wouldn't do that. If they were going
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The z196/z114 names were just plain confusing, so yeah, I'd assume they
wouldn't do that. If they were going to have an aberration
Maybe they'll resurrect Future System. :-)
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The z196/z114 names
Jaffe
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On 4/25/2014 8:09 AM, Klein, Kenneth E wrote:
Has anyone heard any good rumors about what will be coming out next year as
the latest and greatest model?
z296?
Ec14?
You bring up an interest
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I don't remember where I heard this, or even I really did hear this, but
immediately
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It's always referred to as zNext until the formal announcement and final name
is released.
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My bet:
BHV3B4
Reason: completely unrelated to the predecessor,
Of course B4 is number of procesors in hex, 3 could be understood as
third generation (z196 - 1 was first generation), V is for
Virtualization, finally BH stand for absolutely nothing.
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I don't remember where I heard this, or even I really did hear this, but
immediately, Next jumped to the front of my brain. zNext - NextZ. It
could be real, it could just a hallucination
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We don't understand where the name z196 came from
Z196 = 1st generation 96 cores. It was a silly name.
IBM has been very tight-lipped about the next machine. No models have been
mentioned. No availability
dates have been given. No features
On 4/25/2014 10:57 AM, DiBianca, Robert wrote:
Around here, people are betting on EC14 or EC15. We don't understand where the
name z196 came from, but didn't z9's come out in 2009, z10's in 2010, EC12's in
2012...
I realize time flies, but the IBM Danu z9-109 EC 2094 (9th generation
/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
From: Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com
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We don't understand where
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We don't understand where the name z196 came from
Z196 = 1st generation 96 cores. It was a silly name
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I can neither confirm nor deny that I know anything at all.
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
And if IBM
My suspicion is:
ZFH3FF-z/Fog Horn 3rd Gen 255 processors and will be end of line for Z. To
be
sup'd by VCN4FFF-Virtual Cumulo nimbus 4th gen 1023 engines. Well it is
Friday!
In a message dated 4/25/2014 1:25:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl writes:
My
W dniu 2014-04-25 20:41, Chase, John pisze:
And if IBM has disclosed anything to ISVs, the NDAs undoubtedly prohibit
disclosing even that fact publicly.
ISV may not know the names, just because they don't need to know names.
They need to know technical details of zNEXT.
BTW: Let's guess:
1.
On 25 April 2014 14:41, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
And if IBM has disclosed anything to ISVs, the NDAs undoubtedly prohibit
disclosing even that fact publicly.
I've seen lots of NDA technical material over the years, but in my
experience IBM has *never* disclosed any branding info to
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On 25 April 2014 14:41, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
And if IBM has disclosed anything to ISVs, the NDAs undoubtedly prohibit
disclosing even that fact publicly
I've heard rumors that the names are often not determined until shortly
before release anyway, after some not-so-fun marketing meetings...
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote:
On 25 April 2014 14:41, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
And if IBM has
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