Re: Brain drain: Where Cobol systems go from here

2012-06-23 Thread Scott Ford
Shmuel, Experience is the teacher. My problem is that a lot of folks with the experience will be retiring, hence a lot of experience and insight goes away..fwiw Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jun 22, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: In

Re: Brain drain: Where Cobol systems go from here

2012-06-21 Thread Tom Ross
The issue of COBOL compiler messages was discussed here, and most agreed it would not be that helpful, since it would mostly say 'please see the COBOL Language Reference Manual'. Those calling for a messages manual were asking IBM for a real manual, not for IBM to just go through the motions. The

Re: Brain drain: Where Cobol systems go from here

2012-06-17 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 17, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Tom Ross wrote: I know there is no reaching cranky Ed, but for others I can help: The only reason I am cranky is I have been on the receiving end of *SO* many irate calls to the systems group complaining about the bad manuals. AFter 50 you give up. Somewhere

Re: Brain drain: Where Cobol systems go from here

2012-06-17 Thread Ed Gould
Scott: I do not know if your STC's are production or not. I would hope changes go through change control. I also do not know how you manage change when a OS demands that the program goes though the update process. Generally I am for COBOL (whatever works for you). What I am finding is that