Re: Difference between STSI instruction and SYSEVENT QVS?

2024-02-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 13:22:30 -0600, Joe Monk  wrote:

>What (if any) is the difference between the STSI instruction and the
>SYSEVENT QVS service, other than maybe the C interface.

SYSEVENT QVS is defined to return information in MSUs.  Architecturally, STSI 
has unit-less values. ("There is no formal description of the algorithm used to 
generate this integer" and the term "MSU" is not in the Principles of Operation.

"Any similarity is purely coincidental."

Alan Altmark
IBM

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Re: Difference between STSI instruction and SYSEVENT QVS?

2024-02-06 Thread Peter Relson
AFAIK (which admittedly might not be "far" enough), TFP prior to z16 had no 
information relevant to STSI.
There are now TFP hardware records that apply variable capacity for which STSI 
surfaces information. Possibly QVS should surface that too and might be 
enhanced to do so.
Peter Relsonz/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Difference between STSI instruction and SYSEVENT QVS?

2024-02-05 Thread Martin Packer
I’m assuming that when STSI was enhanced for z16 – and it was a great 
enhancement – all the ways of calling it were able to support the new 
information (and any environmentals).

Cheers, Martin

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Attila Fogarasi 
Date: Saturday, 3 February 2024 at 05:26
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Difference between STSI instruction and SYSEVENT QVS?
substantially the same in terms of information, also don't forget there is
also CSRSI which may be a better choice.  The callable services validate
parameters before calling STSI for you under the covers, also simplify some
of the returned info if you are running other than directly lpar on z
hardware.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 6:23 AM Joe Monk  wrote:

> What (if any) is the difference between the STSI instruction and the
> SYSEVENT QVS service, other than maybe the C interface?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
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Re: Difference between STSI instruction and SYSEVENT QVS?

2024-02-04 Thread Welke, John
Just following on from Peter's reply, we recently activated Tailored Fit 
Pricing (TFP) on a z16 and found that STSI reports the new field, 
"Model-Variable-Capacity", but SYSEVENT QVS knows nothing about this field.



Also, we were told by IBM that there was an MCL change, which we applied to our 
z16 in November, that modified how TFP was implemented, so maybe this wasn't an 
issue with the previous implementation of TFP.

Cheers,

John





Date:Sun, 4 Feb 2024 08:48:30 +

From:Peter Relson mailto:prel...@yahoo.com>>

Subject: Re: Difference between STSI instruction and SYSEVENT QVS?



How about: STSI returns a lot of data that is not returned by SYSEVENT QVS? (or 
so I assume)



How about: SYSEVENT QVS returns a lot of data that is not provided by STSI? (or 
so I assume)



Now, if you were to ask about specific fields in SYSEVENT QVS, I think for 
certain ones the answer is "none", that SYSEVENT QVS obtains them from STSI.

Reference was made to CSRSI. Do note that not all of STSI information is 
accessible via the CSRSI service; the data not provided was not thought to be 
of general enough use to make it worth providing (and using up the cycles and 
common storage to make it happen).

Peter Relsonz/OS Core Technology Design



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Re: Difference between STSI instruction and SYSEVENT QVS?

2024-02-04 Thread Peter Relson
How about: STSI returns a lot of data that is not returned by SYSEVENT QVS? (or 
so I assume)

How about: SYSEVENT QVS returns a lot of data that is not provided by STSI? (or 
so I assume)

Now, if you were to ask about specific fields in SYSEVENT QVS, I think for 
certain ones the answer is "none", that SYSEVENT QVS obtains them from STSI.
Reference was made to CSRSI. Do note that not all of STSI information is 
accessible via the CSRSI service; the data not provided was not thought to be 
of general enough use to make it worth providing (and using up the cycles and 
common storage to make it happen).
Peter Relsonz/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Difference between STSI instruction and SYSEVENT QVS?

2024-02-02 Thread Attila Fogarasi
substantially the same in terms of information, also don't forget there is
also CSRSI which may be a better choice.  The callable services validate
parameters before calling STSI for you under the covers, also simplify some
of the returned info if you are running other than directly lpar on z
hardware.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 6:23 AM Joe Monk  wrote:

> What (if any) is the difference between the STSI instruction and the
> SYSEVENT QVS service, other than maybe the C interface?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
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Difference between STSI instruction and SYSEVENT QVS?

2024-02-01 Thread Joe Monk
What (if any) is the difference between the STSI instruction and the
SYSEVENT QVS service, other than maybe the C interface?

Thanks,

Joe

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