Re: AW: Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-10-03 Thread CM Poncelet
Thanks a lot for clarifying. Cheers, CP Peter Hunkeler wrote: AFAIK, windoze continually interrupts its execution to check whether the mouse has moved, whether a key has been hit (which would count as I/O or 'graphics') or whether another has to be dispatched etc. Off the three

Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-10-03 Thread Jack J. Woehr
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Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-10-03 Thread Richard Pinion
-tasking environment. I ran than on a 16 Mhz 8086 AT PC. --- elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: From: Elardus Engelbrecht <elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: AW: Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016

Re: AW: Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-10-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Tom Brennan wrote: >Peter Hunkeler wrote: >> The latter, mouse movement, it the most resource consuming of all the above. >That reminds me of around 1990 running Windows 3.0, when a newly-minted >Windows Admin (used to be a mainframer) saw my habit of moving the mouse in >big circles while

Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-10-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
CM Poncelet wrote: >Yes, the programs were written and meant to run natively - i.e. under native >DOS - and not in an emulated windoze DOS box. >I was pointing out the horrendous overhead of running DOS programs under an >emulated windoze DOS box, instead of under their original native DOS.

Re: AW: Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-10-03 Thread Tom Brennan
Peter Hunkeler wrote: The latter, mouse movement, it the most resource consuming of all the above. That reminds me of around 1990 running Windows 3.0, when a newly-minted Windows Admin (used to be a mainframer) saw my habit of moving the mouse in big circles while waiting for the machine to

AW: Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-10-03 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>AFAIK, windoze continually interrupts its execution to check whether the mouse has moved, whether a key has been hit (which would count as I/O or 'graphics') or whether another has to be dispatched etc. Off the three above only the last is true. The mouse device and the keyboard device

Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-10-02 Thread CM Poncelet
Thanks for that - yes, I know. However, the ASM program uses only register and 'immediate', not storage-storage, instructions (RR and RI, but no RX and SS etc.) in its inner and outer loops (LOOP2 and LOOP1). It does store/retrieve (PUSH, POP) data on the stack to save/retrieve intermediate

Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-10-02 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 10/01/2016 06:24 AM, Robert Prins wrote: > On 2016-10-01 01:59, CM Poncelet wrote: >> 't is Friday, so here we go again. >> >> I wrote the following in Intel assembler in the 1990's to check the >> CPU-cycles >> performance of DOS vs Windows 3.1 (if memory serves), using a 486/33Mhz >>

Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-10-01 Thread CM Poncelet
Yes, the programs were written and meant to run natively - i.e. under native DOS - and not in an emulated windoze DOS box. I was pointing out the horrendous overhead of running DOS programs under an emulated windoze DOS box, instead of under their original native DOS. Some DOS programs (e.g.

Re: Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-10-01 Thread Robert Prins
On 2016-10-01 01:59, CM Poncelet wrote: 't is Friday, so here we go again. I wrote the following in Intel assembler in the 1990's to check the CPU-cycles performance of DOS vs Windows 3.1 (if memory serves), using a 486/33Mhz processor and practically all executable code loaded in the

Friday OTT : DOS vs Windows performance

2016-09-30 Thread CM Poncelet
't is Friday, so here we go again. I wrote the following in Intel assembler in the 1990's to check the CPU-cycles performance of DOS vs Windows 3.1 (if memory serves), using a 486/33Mhz processor and practically all executable code loaded in the instruction cache: