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While my advice is not to do it at all, that doesn't meant hat it isn't
possible without a plex, just that it's really (really) not a good idea. I
have been at sites that were okay with the exposure, and if you are really,
really careful;, you will still occasionally have issues, but for the
ubject: Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX
Yes, PDSE do require SYSPLEX. Not GRS-plex, not CA-MIM (or MII), but SYSPLEX.
Reason: PDSE use sysplex communication, not GRS facilities.
Regarding to the topic: in order to share datasets you need ...nothing.
No parallel sysplex
No base sysplex
Not ev
cable in
Planning Fiber Links manual - GA23-1409.
Regards
Parwez Hamid
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Where are you seeing
what else would you expect to see in the FICON CTC reference guide :)
You need to look at the technical guide for the specific hardware box that you
want to implement on. I think that starting with the z13 that they allowed.
There may have been some other methods previous to the z13, but this
Where are you seeing this or what is it called? The only shortcut I of know is:
https://www-40.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/lib03010.nsf/0/D78D2E0FE578329485258194006D1387/$file/SB10-7174-00.pdf
With FICON partition-to-partition communication technology, communication
between logical partitions
According to the manual, you can configure them to be connected apparently
without wires. I believe it does the route internally, but I can't really tell
from the manual. There is probably a better manual because I seem to be seeing
just the overview, bur it does appear to not need any
Presumably a FICON wrap-around cable.
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>Thanks everyone ... I will try the Backplane method and post results
>
Sorry, what exactly do you mean by 'Backplane method'?
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Can we use the back plain
Yes, from the z13 up you are supposed to be able to create the connections. I
have not tried it, but it seems to be outlined int he manuals.
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Can we use the back plain of the z/14 to do the CTC thing?
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: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX
Yes, PDSE do require SYSPLEX. Not GRS-plex, not CA-MIM (or MII), but SYSPLEX.
Reason: PDSE use sysplex communication, not GRS facilities.
Regarding to the topic: in order to share datasets you need ...nothing.
No parallel sysplex
No base sysplex
Not even GRSplex
There really is no "safe" way to share DASD without some sort of PLEX, either a
full sysplex (with the CF's) or a baisc (baby) sysplex with Ficon adapters as
CTC's.
Otherwise, Catalog sharing is problematic and PDS/e sharing is not possible,
and actually neither is standard PDS sharing of
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Subject: Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX
Yes, PDSE do require SYSPLEX. Not GRS-plex, not CA-MIM (or MII), but SYSPLEX.
Reason: PDSE use sysplex communication, not GRS facilities.
Regarding to the topic: in order to share
It's possible to share some things, but others can only be safely shared within
a sysplex.
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Subject: GRS setup for MONOPLEX
Yes, PDSE do require SYSPLEX. Not GRS-plex, not CA-MIM (or MII), but
SYSPLEX.
Reason: PDSE use sysplex communication, not GRS facilities.
Regarding to the topic: in order to share datasets you need ...nothing.
No parallel sysplex
No base sysplex
Not even GRSplex
No SMSplex
Simply nothing except
That’s exactly what we do. We share the SMS config though.
On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 11:04 AM Paul Gorlinsky
wrote:
> I think I will do the same ... put in it the PLEX but run with a different
> master catalog, spool, etc.
>
> Thanks
>
>
I think I will do the same ... put in it the PLEX but run with a different
master catalog, spool, etc.
Thanks
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Beware of PDSEs. I’m not 100% sure but I think the sandbox needs to be in
the plex to share them. Updating a PDSE outside of the plex can cause
corruption.
We have our sandbox in the plex just to avoid issues.
On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 9:25 AM Paul Gorlinsky wrote:
> We have a sandbox system
Yes but the monoplex needs to communicate over CTCs to the SYSPLEX.
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> On Jun 19, 2023, at 10:25 AM, Paul Gorlinsky wrote:
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> We have a sandbox system that references TSO user and ISV catalogs and
> datasets. The sandbox has a unique master catalog but shares virtually
We have a sandbox system that references TSO user and ISV catalogs and
datasets. The sandbox has a unique master catalog but shares virtually
everything else.
It does have access to the couple facility that the Sysplex is using ... But it
is not a member of the Sysplex.
Is it possible for
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