Shmuel Metz:
>As a point of curiosity, what are his licensing options if he decides
>to look at z/OS or z/VM?
I’ll answer in terms of standard commercial licensing (even though that’s not
likely for hobbyist purposes). AFAIK there’s no special obstacle to *licensing*
z/OS. z/OS Version 2 is IBM
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On 4/18/22 12:08 AM, David Crayford wrote:
Hardware geeks like to buy hardware. It's a bit like asking me why I
want to own a Sinclair Spectrum or a BBC Micro when I can run ZX
Spectrum emulator in a browser or install RetroPie on one of my
Raspberry Pi's! Emulation is just not the same
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Shmuel Metz wrote:
>There are several issues that you will need to deal with in order to
>get a running system.
>[]
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"9. An operating system. I doubt that you can get a license for anything
that will run on a box that old, and I don't know whether the free
DOS/VSE, OS/VS
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On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:57:38 -0400, Joe Monk wrote:
>"9. An operating system. I doubt that you can get a license for anything
> that will run on a box that old, and I don't know wheth
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Enzo,
Here’s a “quick highlights” tour of the IBM z114 with hobbyist intentions. This
information is thoroughly unofficial. Let’s first run through the highest
operating
with question about small mainframe DASD
Shmuel Metz wrote:
>There are several issues that you will need to deal with in order to
>get a running system.
>[]
>2. Licensed internal code for the CEC, which may or may not
>need an upgrade
I’d say this part doesn’t matter. Whatever
On 16/4/22 06:58, Grant Taylor wrote:
Hi,
I am a US high school student who is seriously considering acquiring
a z114 mainframe.
I hope that I don't come off too wrong when I ask, but why do you want
a z114? -- I completely get wanting a mainframe. -- But why a z114?
Hardware geeks
Shmuel Metz wrote:
>There are several issues that you will need to deal with in order to
>get a running system.
>[]
>2. Licensed internal code for the CEC, which may or may not
>need an upgrade
I’d say this part doesn’t matter. Whatever level(s) of LIC firmware are on the
machine are
Enzo,
Here’s a “quick highlights” tour of the IBM z114 with hobbyist intentions. This
information is thoroughly unofficial. Let’s first run through the highest
operating system releases that the IBM z114 supports:
z/OS 2.2 (current is 2.5)
z/VM 6.4 (current is 7.2)
IBM z/VSE 6.2 (current from
On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:57:38 -0400, Joe Monk wrote:
>"9. An operating system. I doubt that you can get a license for anything
> that will run on a box that old, and I don't know whether the free
>DOS/VSE, OS/VS or VM will run on it.."
>
>What about Linux/390?
>
There are easier ways to
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> Hello. I am a U
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Hello. I am a US high school student who is seriously considering acquiring a
z114 mainframe. I have found a listing selling one for a price that I think is
reasonable, and I
D
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Yeah, I don't want a mainframe in
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Personally, I like the idea of learning on real hardware if possible.
The zD can teach you software, but where is the HMC? Where are the
cards, where are the cables? A few z13s boxes were possibly available
On 4/16/22 7:54 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote:
I hadn't known about zPD student edition. I had only known about
the personal edition, which last time I checked was close to 6k per
year. The learner's edition looks pretty interesting however.
:-)
The unit in question still has it's SEs intact, and
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On 4/15/22 6:35 PM, Enzo D'Amato wrote:
> Nothing in particular about the z114, other than the seller is offering
> it to me at a
I would have thought that if you're serious about learning z/OS, in the USA and
qualify then surely this is much cheaper than anything else out there:
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zdt/13.3.x?topic=learners-edition
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>Nothing in
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On 4/15/22 3:32 PM, Enzo D'Amato wrote:
Hello.
Hi,
I am a US high school student who is seriously considering acquiring a
z114 mainframe.
I hope that I don't come off too wrong when I ask, b
On 4/15/22 6:35 PM, Enzo D'Amato wrote:
Nothing in particular about the z114, other than the seller is offering
it to me at an unbeatable price.
Okay. You have passed the "you've been informed" and "you have an idea
what you're biting off" gates. That's my concern as someone else in the
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Thank you for the input. Would you know where to look for ckd devices? I have
seen parts of a DS6800, but always without the controller. I know
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On 4/15/22 3:32 PM, Enzo D'Amato wrote:
> Hello.
Hi,
> I am a US high school student who is seriously considering acquiring a
> z114 mainframe.
I hope that I don't come off too w
On 4/15/22 3:32 PM, Enzo D'Amato wrote:
Hello.
Hi,
I am a US high school student who is seriously considering acquiring a
z114 mainframe.
I hope that I don't come off too wrong when I ask, but why do you want a
z114? -- I completely get wanting a mainframe. -- But why a z114?
Or,
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Maynard
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Basically, running FBA storage restricts you to running z/VM and z/VSE, and
possibly z/Linux (I've never r
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Maynard
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Basically, running FBA storage restricts you to running z/VM and z/VSE, and
possibly z/Linux (I've never run it on FBA
3-phase is not needed for the z's. If the DS8000 is only partially
filled, it's happy with single-phase also.
I have replaced the three-phase cable ends with single phase 220v ends
on several DS8000s.
Tony Thigpen
Jay Maynard wrote on 4/15/22 17:50:
Basically, running FBA storage restricts
Basically, running FBA storage restricts you to running z/VM and z/VSE, and
possibly z/Linux (I've never run it on FBA, but there's no particular
reason it wouldn't work). z/OS requires CKD DASD.
Learning experience? Absolutely!
I want to get a z/Series myself, but there's a tradeoff there...in
Hello. I am a US high school student who is seriously considering acquiring a
z114 mainframe. I have found a listing selling one for a price that I think is
reasonable, and I have determined that I can meet the space, transportation and
power requirements for the machine. I did however have
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