Re: LOOKAT gone? - Compiler incest

2016-12-04 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Dec04:1431-0500, Gabe Goldberg wrote:

> David Cole  noted:
> 
> In contrast, a compiler coded in its own language tends to be much
> > better, user friendly in features, than a compiler coded in any other
> language.
> 
> Interesting observation.

It's certainly true of the Micro Focus COBOL compiler.
Yes, a COBOL compiler that compiles itself (using Micro
Focus language extensions that make it almost like C).
It also runs like a bat out of a very hot place.
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Re: LOOKAT gone? - Compiler incest

2016-12-04 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Related, I think the VM community's wonderful Melinda Varian observed 
that the best software is developed by people (often individuals) who 
actually want to use it. On the VM side, that includes Mike Cowlishaw's 
REXX and John Hartmann's CMS Pipelines. I'm sure z/OS has many 
equivalent stellar tools/products/offerings.


And maybe related to the incestuous compiler compiling itself, from the 
1980's OCO wars, the SHARE button, "We want to be able to fix it in the 
language in which it broke".


David Cole  noted:

In contrast, a compiler coded in its own language tends to be much
> better, user friendly in features, than a compiler coded in any other 
language.


Interesting observation.

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Re: LOOKAT gone? - Compiler incest

2016-12-02 Thread Jack J. Woehr

David Cole wrote:
In contrast, a compiler coded in its own language tends to be much better, user friendly in features, than a compiler 
coded in any other language.


Interesting observation.


In a word: Forth


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Re: LOOKAT gone? - Compiler incest

2016-12-02 Thread David Cole
In contrast, a compiler coded in its own language tends to be much 
better, user friendly in features, than a compiler coded in any other language.


Interesting observation.






At 12/2/2016 09:11 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:


On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 17:41:25 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>Why does IBM keep taking things that aren't broken (LookAt, Book Manager)
>and making them trendy, rather than keeping them in a form that is useful to
>their customers?
>
One can often tell when a product is produced and supported by people who
have no interest in using it.

And the worst such people are web developers.

In contrast, a compiler coded in its own language tends to be much better,
user friendly in features, than a compiler coded in any other language.

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