Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-08 Thread Jake anderson
Hi Dave/All,

I completely agree with your opinions and I work to get the SMS
initialization before the DB2 stuff.

Thanks again for all.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:00 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:

 Still, why fight. The instructions to have SMS be the first subsystem up
 are clear and only a couple decades old.
 Your error shows that something was not as you and your IPL expected. This
 may not fix the problem, but it will eliminate one possibility and doing it
 correct may prevent other problems in the future.

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  Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
 
  Dave
 
  Its a pds.
  On 7 Oct 2014 23:53, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:
 
   The SMS documentation clears says that SUBSYS SUBNAME(SMS)
   INITRTN(IGDSSIIN) INITPARM('ID=00,PROMPT=DISPLAY') Should be the first
   entry in IEFSSNxx and you don't seem to have it at all.
  
   If SYSTEM.DB210.LINKLIST is a PDS/E, then that would be yet another
   reason to be sure to have SMS initialized first.
  
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Hi Peter/All,
   
I did :
   
SETPROG LNKLST TEST NAME(CURRENT) MOD(DSN3INI) CSV502I
  MODULE
DSN3INI WAS LOCATED 715 IN DATA SET SYSTEM.DB210.LINKLIST USING
LNKLST SET CURRENT
   
   
SUBSYS SUBNAME(JES2)   /* JES2 IS THE PRIMARY SUBSYSTEM   */
  PRIMARY(YES)  START(NO)
SUBSYS SUBNAME(BLSR)   /* BATCH LOCAL SHARED RESOURCES*/
  INITRTN(CSRBISUB)
SUBSYS SUBNAME()
  INITRTN(DSN3INI)
  INITPARM('DSN3EPX,!,S')
   
   
The DB2 maintenance went on before the IPL, but not sure if some of
the
   PTF
would have caused this problem.
   
   
   
   
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com
  wrote:
   
 If you have not dynamically updated the LNKLST after IPL, then
 probably the easiest thing to do is

 SETPROG LNKLST TEST NAME(CURRENT) MOD().

 Which will use the actual LNKLST DCB to search for . Given
 the behavior cited, it likely won't be found. And there likely is
 a message about the data set in question in the log.

 Substitute LNKLST00 (or whatever was the IPL-time definition via
 PROGxx) if you have dynamically updated the LNKLST.

 I'm sure we all recognize that the phrase LINKLIST libraries are
   loaded
 from the OP is not really legit. The libraries themselves are not
 loaded. Modules are loaded from the libraries (upon
  request/demand).

 Peter Relson
 z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-07 Thread Jake anderson
Hi Group,

I have reviewed the LOG, Here is my summary on what I took :

The DB2 Linklist is on USERCAT and SMS managed Volume.

The SYSLOG says that SMS got active after the below message IEFJ004I

 IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM XXX NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND

IGD020I SMS IS NOW ACTIVE

The Linklist has the below entry :

LNKLST ADD NAME(LNKLST00) DSNAME(SYSTEM.DB210.LINKLIST)
   VOLUME(LNKL01).

Dynamically no LNKLST00 was added.

Not sure why DSN3INI did not get recognized.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Lucas Rosalen rosalen.lu...@gmail.com
wrote:

 No IEA716I messages during the IPL?

 2014-10-06 15:15 GMT-03:00 Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com:

  I do not believe that the CAS is available at the initial LNKLST build
  time. Thus, datasets in LNKLST *MUST* be in LNKLST at IPL time.
  They can be added later, which describes the symptoms in your OP.
 
  I believe if you peruse the system log, you will find a message SDSNLINK
  NOT FOUND
 
  HTH,
 
  snip
 
  Its  on single extent. The sdsnlink is catalogued to a usercat.
 
  /snip
 
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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jake anderson wrote:

 IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM XXX NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND

Post your IEFSSNxx containing entry for DSN3INI.

Cross check your SYSLOG message with what you intended to use in IEFSSNxx.

The same goes with Linklist, LPA, etc.

Check all your IPL members, all the way from LOADxx up to IEASYSxx, IEFSSNxx, 
etc.

Groete / Greetings
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RES: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-07 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Good Point, verify all the IPL flow.


It seems to be obvious but verify if DSN3INI is in this SYSTEM.DB210.LINKLIST 
and
the dataset is really in LNKL01.

Are you specifying BEGINPARALLEL in IEFSSNxx ?
If so, put DB2/IRLM subsystems before BEGINPARALLEL and after SMS.

Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos

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Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes
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Enviada em: terça-feira, 7 de outubro de 2014 07:43
Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Assunto: Re: Linklist load during IPL message

Jake anderson wrote:

 IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM XXX NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND

Post your IEFSSNxx containing entry for DSN3INI.

Cross check your SYSLOG message with what you intended to use in IEFSSNxx.

The same goes with Linklist, LPA, etc.

Check all your IPL members, all the way from LOADxx up to IEASYSxx, IEFSSNxx, 
etc.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-07 Thread Peter Relson
If you have not dynamically updated the LNKLST after IPL, then probably 
the easiest thing to do is

SETPROG LNKLST TEST NAME(CURRENT) MOD().

Which will use the actual LNKLST DCB to search for . Given the 
behavior cited, it likely won't be found. And there likely is a message 
about the data set in question in the log.

Substitute LNKLST00 (or whatever was the IPL-time definition via PROGxx) 
if you have dynamically updated the LNKLST.

I'm sure we all recognize that the phrase LINKLIST libraries are loaded 
from the OP is not really legit. The libraries themselves are not 
loaded. Modules are loaded from the libraries (upon request/demand).

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
I looked up the IEFJ004I message - it states

For example:

The module was not found.
The module was found, but was not APF-authorized.

Is the SDSNLOAD APF authorized?

Lizette


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 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 3:43 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
 
 Jake anderson wrote:
 
  IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM XXX NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND
 
 Post your IEFSSNxx containing entry for DSN3INI.
 
 Cross check your SYSLOG message with what you intended to use in IEFSSNxx.
 
 The same goes with Linklist, LPA, etc.
 
 Check all your IPL members, all the way from LOADxx up to IEASYSxx,
 IEFSSNxx, etc.
 
 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht
 

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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-07 Thread Jake anderson
Hi Liz/All,

Thanks so much. The ZELDENS utility clearly showed that the required
Library was not APFed during the system startup and later on the library
was added dynamically.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
wrote:

 I looked up the IEFJ004I message - it states

 For example:

 The module was not found.
 The module was found, but was not APF-authorized.

 Is the SDSNLOAD APF authorized?

 Lizette


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  Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
 
  Jake anderson wrote:
 
   IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM XXX NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND
 
  Post your IEFSSNxx containing entry for DSN3INI.
 
  Cross check your SYSLOG message with what you intended to use in
 IEFSSNxx.
 
  The same goes with Linklist, LPA, etc.
 
  Check all your IPL members, all the way from LOADxx up to IEASYSxx,
  IEFSSNxx, etc.
 
  Groete / Greetings
  Elardus Engelbrecht
 

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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-07 Thread Gibney, Dave
The SMS documentation clears says that 
SUBSYS SUBNAME(SMS)  INITRTN(IGDSSIIN) INITPARM('ID=00,PROMPT=DISPLAY')
Should be the first entry in IEFSSNxx and you don't seem to have it at all.

If SYSTEM.DB210.LINKLIST is a PDS/E, then that would be yet another reason to 
be sure to have SMS initialized first.

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Jake anderson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:49 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
 
 Hi Peter/All,
 
 I did :
 
 SETPROG LNKLST TEST NAME(CURRENT) MOD(DSN3INI) CSV502I MODULE
 DSN3INI WAS LOCATED 715 IN DATA SET SYSTEM.DB210.LINKLIST USING
 LNKLST SET CURRENT
 
 
 SUBSYS SUBNAME(JES2)   /* JES2 IS THE PRIMARY SUBSYSTEM   */
   PRIMARY(YES)  START(NO)
 SUBSYS SUBNAME(BLSR)   /* BATCH LOCAL SHARED RESOURCES*/
   INITRTN(CSRBISUB)
 SUBSYS SUBNAME()
   INITRTN(DSN3INI)
   INITPARM('DSN3EPX,!,S')
 
 
 The DB2 maintenance went on before the IPL, but not sure if some of the PTF
 would have caused this problem.
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 
  If you have not dynamically updated the LNKLST after IPL, then
  probably the easiest thing to do is
 
  SETPROG LNKLST TEST NAME(CURRENT) MOD().
 
  Which will use the actual LNKLST DCB to search for . Given the
  behavior cited, it likely won't be found. And there likely is a
  message about the data set in question in the log.
 
  Substitute LNKLST00 (or whatever was the IPL-time definition via
  PROGxx) if you have dynamically updated the LNKLST.
 
  I'm sure we all recognize that the phrase LINKLIST libraries are loaded
  from the OP is not really legit. The libraries themselves are not
  loaded. Modules are loaded from the libraries (upon request/demand).
 
  Peter Relson
  z/OS Core Technology Design
 
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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-07 Thread Jake anderson
Dave

Its a pds.
On 7 Oct 2014 23:53, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:

 The SMS documentation clears says that
 SUBSYS SUBNAME(SMS)  INITRTN(IGDSSIIN) INITPARM('ID=00,PROMPT=DISPLAY')
 Should be the first entry in IEFSSNxx and you don't seem to have it at all.

 If SYSTEM.DB210.LINKLIST is a PDS/E, then that would be yet another reason
 to be sure to have SMS initialized first.

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  On Behalf Of Jake anderson
  Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:49 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
 
  Hi Peter/All,
 
  I did :
 
  SETPROG LNKLST TEST NAME(CURRENT) MOD(DSN3INI) CSV502I MODULE
  DSN3INI WAS LOCATED 715 IN DATA SET SYSTEM.DB210.LINKLIST USING
  LNKLST SET CURRENT
 
 
  SUBSYS SUBNAME(JES2)   /* JES2 IS THE PRIMARY SUBSYSTEM   */
PRIMARY(YES)  START(NO)
  SUBSYS SUBNAME(BLSR)   /* BATCH LOCAL SHARED RESOURCES*/
INITRTN(CSRBISUB)
  SUBSYS SUBNAME()
INITRTN(DSN3INI)
INITPARM('DSN3EPX,!,S')
 
 
  The DB2 maintenance went on before the IPL, but not sure if some of the
 PTF
  would have caused this problem.
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 
   If you have not dynamically updated the LNKLST after IPL, then
   probably the easiest thing to do is
  
   SETPROG LNKLST TEST NAME(CURRENT) MOD().
  
   Which will use the actual LNKLST DCB to search for . Given the
   behavior cited, it likely won't be found. And there likely is a
   message about the data set in question in the log.
  
   Substitute LNKLST00 (or whatever was the IPL-time definition via
   PROGxx) if you have dynamically updated the LNKLST.
  
   I'm sure we all recognize that the phrase LINKLIST libraries are
 loaded
   from the OP is not really legit. The libraries themselves are not
   loaded. Modules are loaded from the libraries (upon request/demand).
  
   Peter Relson
   z/OS Core Technology Design
  
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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-07 Thread Wayne Driscoll
You mentioned that the SDSNLOAD is on an SMS managed volume, and that you
got the message before you got the message that SMS is active, correct?  If
that is the case, my guess is that you have the library in the APF List in
PROGxx with SMS instead of a specific volume.  In this case, I wouldn't be
surprised if the system couldn't treat the library as authorized, since SMS
wasn't active.  You probably need to ensure that SMS is active before you
attempt to define DB2 subsystems.
==
Wayne Driscoll
OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development
wdrisco(at)us(dot)ibm(dot)com
All opinions are mine, and do not represent
IBM Corporation.
==

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on
10/07/2014 11:35:10 AM:

 From: Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date: 10/07/2014 11:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Linklist load during IPL message
 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

 Hi Liz/All,

 Thanks so much. The ZELDENS utility clearly showed that the required
 Library was not APFed during the system startup and later on the library
 was added dynamically.

 On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
 wrote:

  I looked up the IEFJ004I message - it states
 
  For example:
 
  The module was not found.
  The module was found, but was not APF-authorized.
 
  Is the SDSNLOAD APF authorized?
 
  Lizette
 
 
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On
   Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht
   Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 3:43 AM
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
  
   Jake anderson wrote:
  
IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM XXX NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND
  
   Post your IEFSSNxx containing entry for DSN3INI.
  
   Cross check your SYSLOG message with what you intended to use in
  IEFSSNxx.
  
   The same goes with Linklist, LPA, etc.
  
   Check all your IPL members, all the way from LOADxx up to IEASYSxx,
   IEFSSNxx, etc.
  
   Groete / Greetings
   Elardus Engelbrecht
  
 
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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-07 Thread Gibney, Dave
Still, why fight. The instructions to have SMS be the first subsystem up are 
clear and only a couple decades old. 
Your error shows that something was not as you and your IPL expected. This may 
not fix the problem, but it will eliminate one possibility and doing it correct 
may prevent other problems in the future.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Jake anderson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:26 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
 
 Dave
 
 Its a pds.
 On 7 Oct 2014 23:53, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:
 
  The SMS documentation clears says that SUBSYS SUBNAME(SMS)
  INITRTN(IGDSSIIN) INITPARM('ID=00,PROMPT=DISPLAY') Should be the first
  entry in IEFSSNxx and you don't seem to have it at all.
 
  If SYSTEM.DB210.LINKLIST is a PDS/E, then that would be yet another
  reason to be sure to have SMS initialized first.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
   [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake anderson
   Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:49 AM
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
  
   Hi Peter/All,
  
   I did :
  
   SETPROG LNKLST TEST NAME(CURRENT) MOD(DSN3INI) CSV502I
 MODULE
   DSN3INI WAS LOCATED 715 IN DATA SET SYSTEM.DB210.LINKLIST USING
   LNKLST SET CURRENT
  
  
   SUBSYS SUBNAME(JES2)   /* JES2 IS THE PRIMARY SUBSYSTEM   */
 PRIMARY(YES)  START(NO)
   SUBSYS SUBNAME(BLSR)   /* BATCH LOCAL SHARED RESOURCES*/
 INITRTN(CSRBISUB)
   SUBSYS SUBNAME()
 INITRTN(DSN3INI)
 INITPARM('DSN3EPX,!,S')
  
  
   The DB2 maintenance went on before the IPL, but not sure if some of
   the
  PTF
   would have caused this problem.
  
  
  
  
   On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com
 wrote:
  
If you have not dynamically updated the LNKLST after IPL, then
probably the easiest thing to do is
   
SETPROG LNKLST TEST NAME(CURRENT) MOD().
   
Which will use the actual LNKLST DCB to search for . Given
the behavior cited, it likely won't be found. And there likely is
a message about the data set in question in the log.
   
Substitute LNKLST00 (or whatever was the IPL-time definition via
PROGxx) if you have dynamically updated the LNKLST.
   
I'm sure we all recognize that the phrase LINKLIST libraries are
  loaded
from the OP is not really legit. The libraries themselves are not
loaded. Modules are loaded from the libraries (upon
 request/demand).
   
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
   
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Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Jake anderson
Hi Group,

We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to which
the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.

I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where LINKLIST
libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically from the
IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.

It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify if the
LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.

Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D PROG,LNKLST and it
was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as not found during IPL time.

Could someone throw light on the above.


Jake

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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Scott Ford
Jake:


I would think you could search thru the Linklist and find if the module was 
missing …

I think ISRDDN can do it






Regards,

Scott





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Hi Group,

We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to which
the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.

I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where LINKLIST
libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically from the
IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.

It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify if the
LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.

Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D PROG,LNKLST and it
was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as not found during IPL time.

Could someone throw light on the above.


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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread John McKown
As mentioned using DDLIST and doing a LINKLIST is helpful. An alternative
is the z/OS operator command: d prog,lnklst

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Group,

 We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to which
 the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.

 I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where LINKLIST
 libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically from the
 IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.

 It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify if the
 LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.

 Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D PROG,LNKLST and it
 was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as not found during IPL time.

 Could someone throw light on the above.


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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
Jake,
Check your IEASYSxx member.  Ensure the PROGxx members contain the library you 
are looking for.
Check your SYSLOG at IPL time.  See if there is an error message indicating a 
library was not found.
If you have Mark Zelden's IPLINFO REXX, that can help you isolate what is or is 
not being brought in at IPL Time through IEASYS.

Next, use  ISRDDN as suggested on the system where the load is failing.  Use 
the LINKLIST command.  Not now, as you fixed the issue.  At the next IPL if 
DB2 fails to start, then use ISRDDN to see what is on the failing system.

Last, verify your IPL process.  If you had posted the error message(s) you 
received when starting DB2, it might lead to better answers.  You may have more 
issues than this.

Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Scott Ford
 Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 8:41 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
 
 Jake:
 
 
 I would think you could search thru the Linklist and find if the module was 
 missing …
 
 I think ISRDDN can do it
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott


 From: Jake anderson
 Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎October‎ ‎6‎, ‎2014 ‎11‎:‎20‎ ‎AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 Hi Group,
 
 We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to which the
 DB2 start up command showed invalid command.
 
 I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where LINKLIST libraries
 are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically from the IEFSSNxx
 and readded to the IEFSSNxx.
 
 It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify if the LINKLIST 
 library
 gets loaded during IPL time.
 
 Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D PROG,LNKLST and it
 was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as not found during IPL time.
 
 Could someone throw light on the above.
 
 
 Jake
 

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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Jake anderson
I did D PROG,LNKLST and ISRDDN and i see the SDSNLINK (after IPL) which has
DSN3INI module in it. I am not sure why i received the below message during
IPL

IEE252I MEMBER IEFSSN00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB
CSR002I BATCH LSR SUBSYSTEM BLSR INITIALIZATION COMPLETE.
IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM xxx NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND

Strange thing was I was able to remove and add the IEFSSN Subsystem entry
and the issue was fixed.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
wrote:

 As mentioned using DDLIST and doing a LINKLIST is helpful. An alternative
 is the z/OS operator command: d prog,lnklst

 On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi Group,
 
  We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to which
  the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.
 
  I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where LINKLIST
  libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically from the
  IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.
 
  It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify if the
  LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.
 
  Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D PROG,LNKLST and it
  was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as not found during IPL time.
 
  Could someone throw light on the above.
 
 
  Jake
 
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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Ron Graham
Data sets can be added to the LINKLIST after the initial IPL.  I do this using 
a PROGxx member in PARMLIB and then issuing the T PROG=xx command:

LNKLST DEFINE NAME(LNKLST11) COPYFROM(LNKLST00)
LNKLST ADD NAME(LNKLST11)  
   DSN(data.set.to.add) 
LNKLST ACTIVATE NAME(LNKLST11) 

 Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the IEFSSN00 was 
processed?

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jake anderson
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:56 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message

I did D PROG,LNKLST and ISRDDN and i see the SDSNLINK (after IPL) which has 
DSN3INI module in it. I am not sure why i received the below message during IPL

IEE252I MEMBER IEFSSN00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB CSR002I BATCH LSR SUBSYSTEM BLSR 
INITIALIZATION COMPLETE.
IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM xxx NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND

Strange thing was I was able to remove and add the IEFSSN Subsystem entry and 
the issue was fixed.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
wrote:

 As mentioned using DDLIST and doing a LINKLIST is helpful. An 
 alternative is the z/OS operator command: d prog,lnklst

 On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jake anderson 
 justmainfra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi Group,
 
  We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to 
  which the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.
 
  I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where LINKLIST 
  libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically 
  from the IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.
 
  It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify if the 
  LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.
 
  Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D PROG,LNKLST 
  and it was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as not found during IPL time.
 
  Could someone throw light on the above.
 
 
  Jake
 
  
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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Jake anderson
I did Mark Zeldens utility TSO IPLINFO ALL and i see the required DB2
linklist is loaded. The LNKLST00 has not changed after IPL.

 Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the IEFSSN00 was
processed?

 Not sure.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Ron Graham 
0048e662d41f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:

 Data sets can be added to the LINKLIST after the initial IPL.  I do this
 using a PROGxx member in PARMLIB and then issuing the T PROG=xx command:

 LNKLST DEFINE NAME(LNKLST11) COPYFROM(LNKLST00)
 LNKLST ADD NAME(LNKLST11)
DSN(data.set.to.add)
 LNKLST ACTIVATE NAME(LNKLST11)

  Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the IEFSSN00 was
 processed?

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Jake anderson
 Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:56 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message

 I did D PROG,LNKLST and ISRDDN and i see the SDSNLINK (after IPL) which
 has DSN3INI module in it. I am not sure why i received the below message
 during IPL

 IEE252I MEMBER IEFSSN00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB CSR002I BATCH LSR SUBSYSTEM
 BLSR INITIALIZATION COMPLETE.
 IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM xxx NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND

 Strange thing was I was able to remove and add the IEFSSN Subsystem entry
 and the issue was fixed.

 On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  As mentioned using DDLIST and doing a LINKLIST is helpful. An
  alternative is the z/OS operator command: d prog,lnklst
 
  On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jake anderson
  justmainfra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi Group,
  
   We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to
   which the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.
  
   I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where LINKLIST
   libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically
   from the IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.
  
   It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify if the
   LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.
  
   Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D PROG,LNKLST
   and it was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as not found during IPL
 time.
  
   Could someone throw light on the above.
  
  
   Jake
  
   
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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Jake,

Is SDSNLINK with 1 ext only? Also, is in cataloged in MCAT?

*Lucas Rosalen*

2014-10-06 13:12 GMT-03:00 Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com:

 I did Mark Zeldens utility TSO IPLINFO ALL and i see the required DB2
 linklist is loaded. The LNKLST00 has not changed after IPL.

  Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the IEFSSN00 was
 processed?

  Not sure.

 On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Ron Graham 
 0048e662d41f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:

  Data sets can be added to the LINKLIST after the initial IPL.  I do this
  using a PROGxx member in PARMLIB and then issuing the T PROG=xx command:
 
  LNKLST DEFINE NAME(LNKLST11) COPYFROM(LNKLST00)
  LNKLST ADD NAME(LNKLST11)
 DSN(data.set.to.add)
  LNKLST ACTIVATE NAME(LNKLST11)
 
   Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the IEFSSN00 was
  processed?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
  Behalf Of Jake anderson
  Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:56 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
 
  I did D PROG,LNKLST and ISRDDN and i see the SDSNLINK (after IPL) which
  has DSN3INI module in it. I am not sure why i received the below message
  during IPL
 
  IEE252I MEMBER IEFSSN00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB CSR002I BATCH LSR SUBSYSTEM
  BLSR INITIALIZATION COMPLETE.
  IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM xxx NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND
 
  Strange thing was I was able to remove and add the IEFSSN Subsystem entry
  and the issue was fixed.
 
  On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM, John McKown 
 john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   As mentioned using DDLIST and doing a LINKLIST is helpful. An
   alternative is the z/OS operator command: d prog,lnklst
  
   On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jake anderson
   justmainfra...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Hi Group,
   
We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to
which the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.
   
I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where LINKLIST
libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically
from the IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.
   
It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify if the
LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.
   
Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D PROG,LNKLST
and it was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as not found during
 IPL
  time.
   
Could someone throw light on the above.
   
   
Jake
   

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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Jake anderson
Lucas

Its  on single extent. The sdsnlink is catalogued to a usercat.
On 6 Oct 2014 22:42, Lucas Rosalen rosalen.lu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jake,

 Is SDSNLINK with 1 ext only? Also, is in cataloged in MCAT?

 *Lucas Rosalen*

 2014-10-06 13:12 GMT-03:00 Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com:

  I did Mark Zeldens utility TSO IPLINFO ALL and i see the required DB2
  linklist is loaded. The LNKLST00 has not changed after IPL.
 
   Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the IEFSSN00
 was
  processed?
 
   Not sure.
 
  On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Ron Graham 
  0048e662d41f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 
   Data sets can be added to the LINKLIST after the initial IPL.  I do
 this
   using a PROGxx member in PARMLIB and then issuing the T PROG=xx
 command:
  
   LNKLST DEFINE NAME(LNKLST11) COPYFROM(LNKLST00)
   LNKLST ADD NAME(LNKLST11)
  DSN(data.set.to.add)
   LNKLST ACTIVATE NAME(LNKLST11)
  
Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the IEFSSN00
 was
   processed?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
   Behalf Of Jake anderson
   Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:56 AM
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
  
   I did D PROG,LNKLST and ISRDDN and i see the SDSNLINK (after IPL) which
   has DSN3INI module in it. I am not sure why i received the below
 message
   during IPL
  
   IEE252I MEMBER IEFSSN00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB CSR002I BATCH LSR
 SUBSYSTEM
   BLSR INITIALIZATION COMPLETE.
   IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM xxx NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND
  
   Strange thing was I was able to remove and add the IEFSSN Subsystem
 entry
   and the issue was fixed.
  
   On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM, John McKown 
  john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
As mentioned using DDLIST and doing a LINKLIST is helpful. An
alternative is the z/OS operator command: d prog,lnklst
   
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jake anderson
justmainfra...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 Hi Group,

 We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to
 which the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.

 I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where
 LINKLIST
 libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically
 from the IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.

 It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify if the
 LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.

 Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D PROG,LNKLST
 and it was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as not found during
  IPL
   time.

 Could someone throw light on the above.


 Jake


 
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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Jousma, David
Is the DB2 loadlibrary in the PROGxx member as part of the IPL linklist 
concatenation, or is being added dynamically to linklist?  If being added 
dynamically, you could have a timing issue of when those commands execute in 
relation to the processing of the IEFSSNxx member.

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Of Jake anderson
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 1:26 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message

Lucas

Its  on single extent. The sdsnlink is catalogued to a usercat.
On 6 Oct 2014 22:42, Lucas Rosalen rosalen.lu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jake,

 Is SDSNLINK with 1 ext only? Also, is in cataloged in MCAT?

 *Lucas Rosalen*

 2014-10-06 13:12 GMT-03:00 Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com:

  I did Mark Zeldens utility TSO IPLINFO ALL and i see the required 
  DB2 linklist is loaded. The LNKLST00 has not changed after IPL.
 
   Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the 
  IEFSSN00
 was
  processed?
 
   Not sure.
 
  On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Ron Graham  
  0048e662d41f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 
   Data sets can be added to the LINKLIST after the initial IPL.  I 
   do
 this
   using a PROGxx member in PARMLIB and then issuing the T PROG=xx
 command:
  
   LNKLST DEFINE NAME(LNKLST11) COPYFROM(LNKLST00) LNKLST ADD 
   NAME(LNKLST11)
  DSN(data.set.to.add)
   LNKLST ACTIVATE NAME(LNKLST11)
  
Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the 
   IEFSSN00
 was
   processed?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
   [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
   Behalf Of Jake anderson
   Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:56 AM
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
  
   I did D PROG,LNKLST and ISRDDN and i see the SDSNLINK (after IPL) 
   which has DSN3INI module in it. I am not sure why i received the 
   below
 message
   during IPL
  
   IEE252I MEMBER IEFSSN00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB CSR002I BATCH LSR
 SUBSYSTEM
   BLSR INITIALIZATION COMPLETE.
   IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM xxx NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND
  
   Strange thing was I was able to remove and add the IEFSSN 
   Subsystem
 entry
   and the issue was fixed.
  
   On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM, John McKown 
  john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
As mentioned using DDLIST and doing a LINKLIST is helpful. An 
alternative is the z/OS operator command: d prog,lnklst
   
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jake anderson 
justmainfra...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 Hi Group,

 We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found 
 due to which the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.

 I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where
 LINKLIST
 libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem 
 dynamically from the IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.

 It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify 
 if the LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.

 Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D 
 PROG,LNKLST and it was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as 
 not found during
  IPL
   time.

 Could someone throw light on the above.


 Jake


 
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RES: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Hi,

In the past we had a problem in IPL when initializing DB2 subsystem.
The cause was that DB2 subsystem were been initialized before SMS subsystem,
causing an error. We changed SMS to be the first subsystem (as it should)
and everything initialized successfully.


Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos


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Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes
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De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Em nome de 
Jake anderson
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 6 de outubro de 2014 12:56
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Assunto: Re: Linklist load during IPL message

I did D PROG,LNKLST and ISRDDN and i see the SDSNLINK (after IPL) which has
DSN3INI module in it. I am not sure why i received the below message during
IPL

IEE252I MEMBER IEFSSN00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB
CSR002I BATCH LSR SUBSYSTEM BLSR INITIALIZATION COMPLETE.
IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM xxx NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND

Strange thing was I was able to remove and add the IEFSSN Subsystem entry
and the issue was fixed.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
wrote:

 As mentioned using DDLIST and doing a LINKLIST is helpful. An alternative
 is the z/OS operator command: d prog,lnklst

 On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi Group,
 
  We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to which
  the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.
 
  I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where LINKLIST
  libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically from the
  IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.
 
  It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify if the
  LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.
 
  Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D PROG,LNKLST and it
  was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as not found during IPL time.
 
  Could someone throw light on the above.
 
 
  Jake
 
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Re: RES: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Jake anderson
Hi

Yes the db2 linklist are in sms managed volume but i suspect if SMS was
initialized after db2 subsystem initialization.  Let me review the log
again but it was never a problem in previous IPLs.

Thanks for a valuable point.
On 6 Oct 2014 23:10, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO 
4254.itur...@bradesco.com.br wrote:

 Hi,

 In the past we had a problem in IPL when initializing DB2 subsystem.
 The cause was that DB2 subsystem were been initialized before SMS
 subsystem,
 causing an error. We changed SMS to be the first subsystem (as it should)
 and everything initialized successfully.


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 Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes
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 -Mensagem original-
 De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Em
 nome de Jake anderson
 Enviada em: segunda-feira, 6 de outubro de 2014 12:56
 Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Assunto: Re: Linklist load during IPL message

 I did D PROG,LNKLST and ISRDDN and i see the SDSNLINK (after IPL) which has
 DSN3INI module in it. I am not sure why i received the below message during
 IPL

 IEE252I MEMBER IEFSSN00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB
 CSR002I BATCH LSR SUBSYSTEM BLSR INITIALIZATION COMPLETE.
 IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM xxx NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND

 Strange thing was I was able to remove and add the IEFSSN Subsystem entry
 and the issue was fixed.

 On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  As mentioned using DDLIST and doing a LINKLIST is helpful. An alternative
  is the z/OS operator command: d prog,lnklst
 
  On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
   Hi Group,
  
   We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to
 which
   the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.
  
   I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where LINKLIST
   libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically from
 the
   IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.
  
   It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify if the
   LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.
  
   Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D PROG,LNKLST and
 it
   was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as not found during IPL time.
  
   Could someone throw light on the above.
  
  
   Jake
  
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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
Jake,

You mentioned that SDSNLINK is in a USERCAT.  Do you have VOLUME(xx) 
defined in PROGxx for your SDSNLINK or are you relying on the catalog to find 
it?  It is documented (at least at z/OS 1.13) that it must either be cataloged 
in the master catalog or have a VOLUME parameter to be found at IPL time.  From 
the Init and Tuning Reference manual (with some snippage):

quote
LNKLST data sets processed during IPL must be either cataloged in the master 
catalog or have their volume serials specified. Since user catalog support is 
not available when IPL is processing LNKLST, the volume must be specified to 
let LNKLST processing know where the data set resides. If a volume is 
specified, LNKLST processing will not try to locate the data set in the Master 
Catalog.If you catalog a LNKLST data set in the system master catalog, the 
system will find the data set automatically during IPL.If you plan to use a 
user catalog, you should be aware that the system will not find the data set 
unless you specify both the name of the data set and the volume serial number 
(VOLSER) of the DASD volume on which the data set resides.

/quote

If you do have VOLUME, make sure it is the right volume!  :-)

Rex


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Of Jake anderson
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 1:26 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message

Lucas

Its  on single extent. The sdsnlink is catalogued to a usercat.
On 6 Oct 2014 22:42, Lucas Rosalen rosalen.lu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jake,

 Is SDSNLINK with 1 ext only? Also, is in cataloged in MCAT?

 *Lucas Rosalen*

 2014-10-06 13:12 GMT-03:00 Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com:

  I did Mark Zeldens utility TSO IPLINFO ALL and i see the required 
  DB2 linklist is loaded. The LNKLST00 has not changed after IPL.
 
   Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the 
  IEFSSN00
 was
  processed?
 
   Not sure.
 
  On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Ron Graham  
  0048e662d41f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 
   Data sets can be added to the LINKLIST after the initial IPL.  I 
   do
 this
   using a PROGxx member in PARMLIB and then issuing the T PROG=xx
 command:
  
   LNKLST DEFINE NAME(LNKLST11) COPYFROM(LNKLST00) LNKLST ADD 
   NAME(LNKLST11)
  DSN(data.set.to.add)
   LNKLST ACTIVATE NAME(LNKLST11)
  
Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the 
   IEFSSN00
 was
   processed?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
   [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
   Behalf Of Jake anderson
   Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:56 AM
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Subject: Re: Linklist load during IPL message
  
   I did D PROG,LNKLST and ISRDDN and i see the SDSNLINK (after IPL) 
   which has DSN3INI module in it. I am not sure why i received the 
   below
 message
   during IPL
  
   IEE252I MEMBER IEFSSN00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB CSR002I BATCH LSR
 SUBSYSTEM
   BLSR INITIALIZATION COMPLETE.
   IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM xxx NOT INITIALIZED - DSN3INI NOT FOUND
  
   Strange thing was I was able to remove and add the IEFSSN 
   Subsystem
 entry
   and the issue was fixed.
  
   On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM, John McKown 
  john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
As mentioned using DDLIST and doing a LINKLIST is helpful. An 
alternative is the z/OS operator command: d prog,lnklst
   
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jake anderson 
justmainfra...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 Hi Group,

 We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found 
 due to which the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.

 I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where
 LINKLIST
 libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem 
 dynamically from the IEFSSNxx and readded to the IEFSSNxx.

 It worked after the above band aid. Is there a way to verify 
 if the LINKLIST library gets loaded during IPL time.

 Strange thing to see that DB2  SDSNLINK shows under D 
 PROG,LNKLST and it was weird thing was that DSN3INI showed as 
 not found during
  IPL
   time.

 Could someone throw light on the above.


 Jake

 

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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Staller, Allan
I do not believe that the CAS is available at the initial LNKLST build time. 
Thus, datasets in LNKLST *MUST* be in LNKLST at IPL time.
They can be added later, which describes the symptoms in your OP.

I believe if you peruse the system log, you will find a message SDSNLINK NOT 
FOUND

HTH,

snip

Its  on single extent. The sdsnlink is catalogued to a usercat.

/snip

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Re: Linklist load during IPL message

2014-10-06 Thread Lucas Rosalen
No IEA716I messages during the IPL?

2014-10-06 15:15 GMT-03:00 Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com:

 I do not believe that the CAS is available at the initial LNKLST build
 time. Thus, datasets in LNKLST *MUST* be in LNKLST at IPL time.
 They can be added later, which describes the symptoms in your OP.

 I believe if you peruse the system log, you will find a message SDSNLINK
 NOT FOUND

 HTH,

 snip

 Its  on single extent. The sdsnlink is catalogued to a usercat.

 /snip

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