Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-08 Thread Scott Chapman
I agree that getting an exact 100% average over multiple minutes is going to be somewhat unlikely. But we can get close. From RMF's Partition Data Report: --- PHYSICAL PROCESSORS --- LPAR MGMT EFFECTIVE TOTAL 0.02 8.60 8.62 0.12 78.81 78.93 0.05 11.53 11.58

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ted MacNEIL wrote: I've worked for a bank and a wholesaler that both routinely ran at 100%. Service levels were met, but people were always griping about the usage. As John said, no harm no foul. Agreed. Over the years we see the CPU Utilization graphs as follow (from midnight to next

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-08 Thread Bob Shannon
I used to work at an insurance company that refused to add capacity. When we ran quarterly processing, later changed to monthly processing, the machine was pegged for a day or two. We couldn't do any testing because production sucked up all of the resources. The processor and software

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-08 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I would add: and test work suffered because your goals were set so. z/OS will always do what you tell it to do b.m.o. your goal definitions. This is quite different from other platforms, that already start doing problematic above 30%. I have seen Linux machines being reboot, because even the

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-08 Thread Martin Packer
Interesting: I suspect that nowadays the words only testing or only development will play differently. It's my contention that increasingly getting function out the door is part of a company's attempt to compete. I wonder how many companies will be able to defer Development / Test going

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-07 Thread John Eells
I'm not sure we have a white paper. Will one of our announcement letters do? z/OS V2.1 is designed to allow System z servers to run at utilization levels as high as 100%. From

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 May 2014 10:47:49 -0400, John Eells wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/8/649/ENUSA13-0568/index.htmllang=enrequest_locale=null A Long Time Ago in a Data Center Far, Far Away (well, OK, just down the road from Poughkeepsie in East Fishkill), we

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I've worked for a bank and a wholesaler that both routinely ran at 100%. Service levels were met, but people were always griping about the usage. As John said, no harm no foul. - -teD -   Original Message   From: John Eells Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:48 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) writes: From http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/8/649/ENUSA13-0568/index.htmllang=enrequest_locale=null A Long Time Ago in a Data Center Far, Far Away (well, OK, just down the road from Poughkeepsie in East Fishkill), we

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-07 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Wed, 7 May 2014 10:47:49 -0400, John Eells wrote: I'm not sure we have a white paper. I would think a search of Techdocs for Kathy Walsh would be a good start. But of course we need to define whose 100% we're talking about. z/OS has a peculiar notion of CPU% - more so in virtualised