Re: PDSE V2 data set info
I had a look at that but SMDE is all about directory entries, no data set info. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pierre Fichaud Sent: 29 January 2020 23:55 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSE V2 data set info How about the DESERV macro and the IGWSMDE mapping ? Regards, Pierre. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
How about the DESERV macro and the IGWSMDE mapping ? Regards, Pierre. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 09:21:15 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: >It's physically impossible to get PDSE information without allocating & >opening it. The info is inside the dataset. It's somewhat parallel to >classic PDS, where you have to read the dataset to get directory >information. > PDSE has enhanced sharing capabilities that make allocating it (SHR) and opening it less obstructive than classic PDS (although ISPF LMPUT seems to be unaware of that benefit.) >It would be nice if PDSE recorded some of the info in the catalog or VVDS, >but PDSEs do their own thing, working completely black-box. > Catalog, VVDS, VTOC, data set -- it's all the same provided the information is available somewhere without interfering with other jobs. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
It's physically impossible to get PDSE information without allocating & opening it. The info is inside the dataset. It's somewhat parallel to classic PDS, where you have to read the dataset to get directory information. It would be nice if PDSE recorded some of the info in the catalog or VVDS, but PDSEs do their own thing, working completely black-box. sas On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 7:47 AM Robin Atwood wrote: > I voted! LISTDSI does indded return SYSDSVERSION and SYSMAXGENS but it > doesn't help in my situation (an assembler module). ISITMGD doesn't really > cut it for my requirement, you have to allocate and open a data set and it > only tells you if the PDSE supports generations. > > Robin > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Tom Conley > Sent: 29 January 2020 13:40 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: PDSE V2 data set info > > On 1/28/2020 5:48 AM, Robin Atwood wrote: > > I have a requirement in my queue to include the PDSE Version and the > MAXGEN > > limit in the DSINFO report our server sends > > > > to workstation clients. I checked the F1 DSCB, IGGCSI00 output fields, > SMDEs > > and found nothing. Searching only produced Lionel Dyck's > > > > PGSEGEN utility but that works in an ISPF environment and can obtain the > > values from ISPF variables (ZDSDSNV, ZDSNGEN). I resorted to a brute > force > > search of SYS1.MACLIB and SYS1.MODGEN using "MAXG" but that only found > the > > DFA and some allocation support. Is > > > > this information actually publically available and, if so, can someone > tell > > me where? > > > > Robin, > > Vote for RFE 107052 and 107053. Been asking IBM for YEARS to support > the basics for PDSE's, still no dice. LISTDSI supposably will return > the PDSE version. Don't get me started. > > Regards, > Tom Conley > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
I voted! LISTDSI does indded return SYSDSVERSION and SYSMAXGENS but it doesn't help in my situation (an assembler module). ISITMGD doesn't really cut it for my requirement, you have to allocate and open a data set and it only tells you if the PDSE supports generations. Robin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Conley Sent: 29 January 2020 13:40 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSE V2 data set info On 1/28/2020 5:48 AM, Robin Atwood wrote: > I have a requirement in my queue to include the PDSE Version and the MAXGEN > limit in the DSINFO report our server sends > > to workstation clients. I checked the F1 DSCB, IGGCSI00 output fields, SMDEs > and found nothing. Searching only produced Lionel Dyck's > > PGSEGEN utility but that works in an ISPF environment and can obtain the > values from ISPF variables (ZDSDSNV, ZDSNGEN). I resorted to a brute force > search of SYS1.MACLIB and SYS1.MODGEN using "MAXG" but that only found the > DFA and some allocation support. Is > > this information actually publically available and, if so, can someone tell > me where? > Robin, Vote for RFE 107052 and 107053. Been asking IBM for YEARS to support the basics for PDSE's, still no dice. LISTDSI supposably will return the PDSE version. Don't get me started. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
Thanks to everyone who replied, you have confirmed what I had suspected. The ISITMGD macro seems to do some of what I want, I will take that route. Robin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: 29 January 2020 10:56 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSE V2 data set info DCOLLECT? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robin Atwood Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: PDSE V2 data set info [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender.] I have a requirement in my queue to include the PDSE Version and the MAXGEN limit in the DSINFO report our server sends to workstation clients. I checked the F1 DSCB, IGGCSI00 output fields, SMDEs and found nothing. Searching only produced Lionel Dyck's PGSEGEN utility but that works in an ISPF environment and can obtain the values from ISPF variables (ZDSDSNV, ZDSNGEN). I resorted to a brute force search of SYS1.MACLIB and SYS1.MODGEN using "MAXG" but that only found the DFA and some allocation support. Is this information actually publically available and, if so, can someone tell me where? Thanks Robin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
On 1/28/2020 5:48 AM, Robin Atwood wrote: I have a requirement in my queue to include the PDSE Version and the MAXGEN limit in the DSINFO report our server sends to workstation clients. I checked the F1 DSCB, IGGCSI00 output fields, SMDEs and found nothing. Searching only produced Lionel Dyck's PGSEGEN utility but that works in an ISPF environment and can obtain the values from ISPF variables (ZDSDSNV, ZDSNGEN). I resorted to a brute force search of SYS1.MACLIB and SYS1.MODGEN using "MAXG" but that only found the DFA and some allocation support. Is this information actually publically available and, if so, can someone tell me where? Robin, Vote for RFE 107052 and 107053. Been asking IBM for YEARS to support the basics for PDSE's, still no dice. LISTDSI supposably will return the PDSE version. Don't get me started. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
DCOLLECT? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robin Atwood Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: PDSE V2 data set info [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender.] I have a requirement in my queue to include the PDSE Version and the MAXGEN limit in the DSINFO report our server sends to workstation clients. I checked the F1 DSCB, IGGCSI00 output fields, SMDEs and found nothing. Searching only produced Lionel Dyck's PGSEGEN utility but that works in an ISPF environment and can obtain the values from ISPF variables (ZDSDSNV, ZDSNGEN). I resorted to a brute force search of SYS1.MACLIB and SYS1.MODGEN using "MAXG" but that only found the DFA and some allocation support. Is this information actually publically available and, if so, can someone tell me where? Thanks Robin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
One other possibility is that it is not publicly available but can be inferred from publicly available macros. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Robin Atwood Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 5:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: PDSE V2 data set info I have a requirement in my queue to include the PDSE Version and the MAXGEN limit in the DSINFO report our server sends to workstation clients. I checked the F1 DSCB, IGGCSI00 output fields, SMDEs and found nothing. Searching only produced Lionel Dyck's PGSEGEN utility but that works in an ISPF environment and can obtain the values from ISPF variables (ZDSDSNV, ZDSNGEN). I resorted to a brute force search of SYS1.MACLIB and SYS1.MODGEN using "MAXG" but that only found the DFA and some allocation support. Is this information actually publically available and, if so, can someone tell me where? Thanks Robin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
It IS available, apparently, for a fee. Speak with your friendly IBM rep. And yes, if this answer makes you go "gr" then trust me, you are not alone. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 6:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSE V2 data set info This question has come up before. The programmatic interface is through something called FAMS, and it is not publicly available. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
This question has come up before. The programmatic interface is through something called FAMS, and it is not publicly available. sas On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 5:49 AM Robin Atwood wrote: > I have a requirement in my queue to include the PDSE Version and the MAXGEN > limit in the DSINFO report our server sends > > to workstation clients. I checked the F1 DSCB, IGGCSI00 output fields, > SMDEs > and found nothing. Searching only produced Lionel Dyck's > > PGSEGEN utility but that works in an ISPF environment and can obtain the > values from ISPF variables (ZDSDSNV, ZDSNGEN). I resorted to a brute force > search of SYS1.MACLIB and SYS1.MODGEN using "MAXG" but that only found the > DFA and some allocation support. Is > > this information actually publically available and, if so, can someone tell > me where? > > > > Thanks > > Robin > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- sas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
In SMF 14/15, there is a field SMF14DSNVER which will tell you the PDSE version... Joe On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 5:40 AM Greg Price wrote: > Hi Robin, > > I'm sure others will jump in if I am not up to date, but AFAIK, you > cannot get these pieces of information without opening the data set and > issuing a ISITMGD macro. > > A few folks have opined that it should be possible to acquire this data > without an OPEN, but it remains as it was. > > Commiserly yours, > Greg > > > On 2020-01-28 9:48 PM, Robin Atwood wrote: > > I have a requirement in my queue to include the PDSE Version and the > MAXGEN > > limit in the DSINFO report our server sends > > > > to workstation clients. I checked the F1 DSCB, IGGCSI00 output fields, > SMDEs > > and found nothing. Searching only produced Lionel Dyck's > > > > PGSEGEN utility but that works in an ISPF environment and can obtain the > > values from ISPF variables (ZDSDSNV, ZDSNGEN). I resorted to a brute > force > > search of SYS1.MACLIB and SYS1.MODGEN using "MAXG" but that only found > the > > DFA and some allocation support. Is > > > > this information actually publically available and, if so, can someone > tell > > me where? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Robin > > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDSE V2 data set info
Hi Robin, I'm sure others will jump in if I am not up to date, but AFAIK, you cannot get these pieces of information without opening the data set and issuing a ISITMGD macro. A few folks have opined that it should be possible to acquire this data without an OPEN, but it remains as it was. Commiserly yours, Greg On 2020-01-28 9:48 PM, Robin Atwood wrote: I have a requirement in my queue to include the PDSE Version and the MAXGEN limit in the DSINFO report our server sends to workstation clients. I checked the F1 DSCB, IGGCSI00 output fields, SMDEs and found nothing. Searching only produced Lionel Dyck's PGSEGEN utility but that works in an ISPF environment and can obtain the values from ISPF variables (ZDSDSNV, ZDSNGEN). I resorted to a brute force search of SYS1.MACLIB and SYS1.MODGEN using "MAXG" but that only found the DFA and some allocation support. Is this information actually publically available and, if so, can someone tell me where? Thanks Robin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
PDSE V2 data set info
I have a requirement in my queue to include the PDSE Version and the MAXGEN limit in the DSINFO report our server sends to workstation clients. I checked the F1 DSCB, IGGCSI00 output fields, SMDEs and found nothing. Searching only produced Lionel Dyck's PGSEGEN utility but that works in an ISPF environment and can obtain the values from ISPF variables (ZDSDSNV, ZDSNGEN). I resorted to a brute force search of SYS1.MACLIB and SYS1.MODGEN using "MAXG" but that only found the DFA and some allocation support. Is this information actually publically available and, if so, can someone tell me where? Thanks Robin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
