Re: PDSE as GDG for archival

2020-02-27 Thread Steve Smith
Going back to the original post, as I'm not sure we are all talking about the same thing. Your example dsname would be for a PDSE GDG, not PDSE member generations (which are not accessible with JCL at all). And you're basically correct, as JCL doesn't (yet?) support both a relative gen and a memb

Re: PDSE as GDG for archival

2020-02-27 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
This may be a little bit off topic, but ... some years ago my customer asked me to do a similar project; they had (and still have) a home grown software development tool, based on ISPF services, written in PL/1 and REXX, which used CA-LIBRARIAN as archiving system. It supported all the developm

Re: PDSE as GDG for archival

2020-02-27 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 9:17 AM Steve Thompson wrote: > A.B.C.GVnn(member) in order to access the "archived" member. Each generation is a completely different PDS member and only contains the members written to this PDS. Our shop did use them. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where d

Re: PDSE as GDG for archival

2020-02-27 Thread Lionel B Dyck
uot; - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSE as GDG for archival Member generations are not a nightmare. They're not as well-integrated as they

Re: PDSE as GDG for archival

2020-02-27 Thread Steve Smith
Member generations are not a nightmare. They're not as well-integrated as they should be. But that's been the story on PDSE from the get-go. The built-in ISPF support is usable, once you train yourself on it. It could be better, and PDSEGEN goes a long way towards making it a lot better. I do

Re: PDSE as GDG for archival

2020-02-27 Thread Steve Thompson
at others think you are." - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: PDSE as GDG for archival I am reading the Using Data Sets manual for z/OS 2.

Re: PDSE as GDG for archival

2020-02-27 Thread Lionel B Dyck
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: PDSE as GDG for archival I am reading the Using Data Sets manual for z/OS 2.2 (DFSMS stuff). Has anyone attempted to use the version feature of PDSE? I'd love to hear about your experiences before I even think about suggesting this for a current cli

PDSE as GDG for archival

2020-02-27 Thread Steve Thompson
I am reading the Using Data Sets manual for z/OS 2.2 (DFSMS stuff). Has anyone attempted to use the version feature of PDSE? I'd love to hear about your experiences before I even think about suggesting this for a current client of mine. What they want is a replacement of a librarian product (