Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically
As you do not change all the other original LPAR attributes and connections, those will remain intact after first becoming '*'. 2013/5/19 Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com As I mentioned a follow-on post, I eventually PORed to get the new IODF active with no change other than LPAR name. It's not clear from Carlos's post that the all the other original LPAR attributes and connections would remain intact after first becoming '*'. If not, POR (in my particular case) was less painful than having to redefine everything else from scratch. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: carlos roberto visconde cvisco...@ig.com.br To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 05/18/2013 02:36 PM Subject:Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Yes, you have first rename the LPAR to '*', in IODF (IOCDS) Activate the IODF Deactivate the partition, uncheck to CRYPTO PROCESSORs of that partition, Activate the partition. (puting CHPIDS OFF) Deactivate the LPAR then active new IODF with new Name Chek the CRYPTO PROCESSORs, activate the partiiton 2013/5/10 Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com I've poked around and not found a concise explanation. We have an LPAR whose name needs to change. Everything else in the IODF is fine, just a name problem. Current hardware and software. I changed the name in HCD. When I tried to ACTIVATE the new IODF, it choked on the name mismatch. I gather that I can first rename to '*', then rename for real in two successive IODFs. If I do that, do I preserve all original chpid and device connections? I don't want to start over from scratch when only the name is wrong. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically
As I mentioned a follow-on post, I eventually PORed to get the new IODF active with no change other than LPAR name. It's not clear from Carlos's post that the all the other original LPAR attributes and connections would remain intact after first becoming '*'. If not, POR (in my particular case) was less painful than having to redefine everything else from scratch. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: carlos roberto visconde cvisco...@ig.com.br To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 05/18/2013 02:36 PM Subject:Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Yes, you have first rename the LPAR to '*', in IODF (IOCDS) Activate the IODF Deactivate the partition, uncheck to CRYPTO PROCESSORs of that partition, Activate the partition. (puting CHPIDS OFF) Deactivate the LPAR then active new IODF with new Name Chek the CRYPTO PROCESSORs, activate the partiiton 2013/5/10 Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com I've poked around and not found a concise explanation. We have an LPAR whose name needs to change. Everything else in the IODF is fine, just a name problem. Current hardware and software. I changed the name in HCD. When I tried to ACTIVATE the new IODF, it choked on the name mismatch. I gather that I can first rename to '*', then rename for real in two successive IODFs. If I do that, do I preserve all original chpid and device connections? I don't want to start over from scratch when only the name is wrong. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically
My sugestion was to you avoid POR, with that procedure only the LPAR you had to put PCHID and Crypto processor offline and after online, woud be the LPAR you had to rename. 2013/5/19 Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com As I mentioned a follow-on post, I eventually PORed to get the new IODF active with no change other than LPAR name. It's not clear from Carlos's post that the all the other original LPAR attributes and connections would remain intact after first becoming '*'. If not, POR (in my particular case) was less painful than having to redefine everything else from scratch. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: carlos roberto visconde cvisco...@ig.com.br To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 05/18/2013 02:36 PM Subject:Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Yes, you have first rename the LPAR to '*', in IODF (IOCDS) Activate the IODF Deactivate the partition, uncheck to CRYPTO PROCESSORs of that partition, Activate the partition. (puting CHPIDS OFF) Deactivate the LPAR then active new IODF with new Name Chek the CRYPTO PROCESSORs, activate the partiiton 2013/5/10 Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com I've poked around and not found a concise explanation. We have an LPAR whose name needs to change. Everything else in the IODF is fine, just a name problem. Current hardware and software. I changed the name in HCD. When I tried to ACTIVATE the new IODF, it choked on the name mismatch. I gather that I can first rename to '*', then rename for real in two successive IODFs. If I do that, do I preserve all original chpid and device connections? I don't want to start over from scratch when only the name is wrong. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically
Yes, you have first rename the LPAR to '*', in IODF (IOCDS) Activate the IODF Deactivate the partition, uncheck to CRYPTO PROCESSORs of that partition, Activate the partition. (puting CHPIDS OFF) Deactivate the LPAR then active new IODF with new Name Chek the CRYPTO PROCESSORs, activate the partiiton 2013/5/10 Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com I've poked around and not found a concise explanation. We have an LPAR whose name needs to change. Everything else in the IODF is fine, just a name problem. Current hardware and software. I changed the name in HCD. When I tried to ACTIVATE the new IODF, it choked on the name mismatch. I gather that I can first rename to '*', then rename for real in two successive IODFs. If I do that, do I preserve all original chpid and device connections? I don't want to start over from scratch when only the name is wrong. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically
FWIW when you rename an LPAR, the LPAR NUMBER can change since the LPAR numbers are now assigned alphabetically to LPAR names. Barry Merrill Herbert W. Barry Merrill, PhD President-Programmer MXG Softtware Merrill Consultants 10717 Cromwell Drive Dallas, TX 75229 ba...@mxg.com http://www.mxg.com - FAQ has Most Answers ad...@mxg.com - invoices/PO/Payment supp...@mxg.com- technical tel: 214 351 1966 - expect slow reply, use email fax: 214 350 3694 - prefer email, still works -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Renaming an LPAR dynamically I've poked around and not found a concise explanation. We have an LPAR whose name needs to change. Everything else in the IODF is fine, just a name problem. Current hardware and software. I changed the name in HCD. When I tried to ACTIVATE the new IODF, it choked on the name mismatch. I gather that I can first rename to '*', then rename for real in two successive IODFs. If I do that, do I preserve all original chpid and device connections? I don't want to start over from scratch when only the name is wrong. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically
Some software, the Control products from BMC come to mind have the LPAR name embedded in some of the datasets and will not work if you change the LPAR name dynamically. From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:48 AM Subject: Renaming an LPAR dynamically I've poked around and not found a concise explanation. We have an LPAR whose name needs to change. Everything else in the IODF is fine, just a name problem. Current hardware and software. I changed the name in HCD. When I tried to ACTIVATE the new IODF, it choked on the name mismatch. I gather that I can first rename to '*', then rename for real in two successive IODFs. If I do that, do I preserve all original chpid and device connections? I don't want to start over from scratch when only the name is wrong. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically
Last I heard, the LPAR must be deactivated/renamed/ activated HTH, I've poked around and not found a concise explanation. We have an LPAR whose name needs to change. Everything else in the IODF is fine, just a name problem. Current hardware and software. I changed the name in HCD. When I tried to ACTIVATE the new IODF, it choked on the name mismatch. I gather that I can first rename to '*', then rename for real in two successive IODFs. If I do that, do I preserve all original chpid and device connections? I don't want to start over from scratch when only the name is wrong. /snip . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically
Skip, I recall trying this once. When I converted the name to * it lost all the chpid/device info. I decided that the function was pretty useless (as far as renaming an lpar) is concerned. Alan Field Technical Engineer Principal BCBS Minnesota Phone: 651.662.3546 Mobile: 651.428.8826 From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 05/10/2013 09:48 Subject:Renaming an LPAR dynamically Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU I've poked around and not found a concise explanation. We have an LPAR whose name needs to change. Everything else in the IODF is fine, just a name problem. Current hardware and software. I changed the name in HCD. When I tried to ACTIVATE the new IODF, it choked on the name mismatch. I gather that I can first rename to '*', then rename for real in two successive IODFs. If I do that, do I preserve all original chpid and device connections? I don't want to start over from scratch when only the name is wrong. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically
W dniu 2013-05-10 16:48, Skip Robinson pisze: I've poked around and not found a concise explanation. We have an LPAR whose name needs to change. Everything else in the IODF is fine, just a name problem. Current hardware and software. I changed the name in HCD. When I tried to ACTIVATE the new IODF, it choked on the name mismatch. I gather that I can first rename to '*', then rename for real in two successive IODFs. If I do that, do I preserve all original chpid and device connections? I don't want to start over from scratch when only the name is wrong. I think that it is impossible. BTW: WHY? Why do you need to change LPAR name? The only thing I can imagine (except naming convention, and aesthethics) *was* requirement for zNALC (and previously for z/OS.e) which required lparname to begin with some string (ZNAL and ZOSE). -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, www.brebank.pl, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2013 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.555.904 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically
In the absence of encouraging advice, I went ahead and PORed the CEC, which implemented the correct LPAR name. It's a new machine with no production images yet, so no loss. I was hoping to learn something for a future case where POR would be highly unwelcome. Oh well. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Alan Field alan_c_fi...@bluecrossmn.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 05/10/2013 08:39 AM Subject:Re: Renaming an LPAR dynamically Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Skip, I recall trying this once. When I converted the name to * it lost all the chpid/device info. I decided that the function was pretty useless (as far as renaming an lpar) is concerned. Alan Field Technical Engineer Principal BCBS Minnesota Phone: 651.662.3546 Mobile: 651.428.8826 From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 05/10/2013 09:48 Subject:Renaming an LPAR dynamically Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU I've poked around and not found a concise explanation. We have an LPAR whose name needs to change. Everything else in the IODF is fine, just a name problem. Current hardware and software. I changed the name in HCD. When I tried to ACTIVATE the new IODF, it choked on the name mismatch. I gather that I can first rename to '*', then rename for real in two successive IODFs. If I do that, do I preserve all original chpid and device connections? I don't want to start over from scratch when only the name is wrong. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
