John Eells wrote:
>I asked Development about this, causing some head-scratching. They'd like you
>to open a PMR so they can dig into why this could be happening.
Possibly hardware error - a PMR is an excellent suggestion.
If there is a PMR, ask them to check EACH tape/cartridge individual
Tim,
Sorry missed you question earlier.
> Have you looked at individual volume timings?
No, I guess we need to.
> How many tape drives were used for the DUMP? How many for the restore?
In both cases 6.
But, there are actually 10 backup and 10 restore jobs and thus 10 tapes.
Tony Thigpen
Tim
Elardus,
> Do you have PPRC from/to your DR site?
No PRCC on the 8300 box.
> I am confused by your two [conflicting?] statements,
These are real 3590's attached via 2g ficon via (what I understand is) a
J70 controller. The 'real z/os sysprog' (I normally manage the z/VM
stuff) asked me to
Tony Thigpen wrote:
> > Do you have PPRC from/to your DR site?
>No PRCC on the 8300 box.
Ok. One thing less to worry about.
> > I am confused by your two [conflicting?] statements,
>These are real 3590's attached via 2g ficon via (what I understand is) a J70
>controller. The 'real z/os
I would love to open a PMR, but I don't think they would accept it.
This is os/390 2.10 on a z/10 using a DS8300
Not really a 'supported' situation. :-(
Tony Thigpen
John Eells wrote on 09/25/2015 06:16 AM:
I asked Development about this, causing some head-scratching. They'd
like you to
I asked Development about this, causing some head-scratching. They'd
like you to open a PMR so they can dig into why this could be happening.
Tony Thigpen wrote:
Original question since it's been a few days:
Using ADRDSSU:
DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER)
Does the tape subsystem have physical tape cartridges? If so, then tape
mounts are probably a big part of the time involved. I can only speak to the
IBM TS 7700 I last used before I semi-retired, which had high-capacity tape
cartridges.
1. Scratch tapes are 'fast ready' (I think that's the
Original question since it's been a few days:
Using ADRDSSU:
DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
RESTORE FULL INDD(BACKUP) OUTDD(DASD) PRG CAN ADMIN
All the dasd can be backed up in 1:15 (hh:mm), but restore takes 5:08.
Are we doing something wrong, or is
Apologies - I had overlooked the configuration.
Have you looked at individual volume timings? Are some as quick as their
original dump and some not or are all of the restores a lot longer?
How many tape drives were used for the DUMP? How many for the restore?
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Subject: Re: Restore time question
With the method mentioned, what is happening, in the area of reorganization,
during the restore?
If reorganization is occurring, is there a method to stop the reorg?
Tony Thigpen
Tony Thigpen wrote on 09/16/2015 03:20 PM:
> Backing
Backing up and restoring a Dasd.
Using ADRDSSU:
DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
RESTORE FULL INDD(BACKUP) OUTDD(DASD) PRG CAN ADMIN
All the dasd can be backed up in 1:15, but restore takes 5:08.
Are we doing something wrong, or is this 4.5x longer normal?
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No hardware changes.
We restored our system to our dr box using our recovery system. Took
5:08. Brought up our system, then did a backup. Took 1:15 (and some
other stuff was running).
Tony Thigpen
Rob Schramm wrote on 09/16/2015 03:29 PM:
Same tape subsystem?
Rob Schramm
On Wed, Sep 16,
Same tape subsystem?
Rob Schramm
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015, 3:21 PM Tony Thigpen wrote:
> Backing up and restoring a Dasd.
>
> Using ADRDSSU:
> DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
> RESTORE FULL INDD(BACKUP) OUTDD(DASD) PRG CAN ADMIN
>
> All the dasd
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No hardware changes.
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No hardware changes.
We restored our system to our dr box using our recovery system. Took 5:08.
Brought up our system, then did
With the method mentioned, what is happening, in the area of
reorganization, during the restore?
If reorganization is occurring, is there a method to stop the reorg?
Tony Thigpen
Tony Thigpen wrote on 09/16/2015 03:20 PM:
Backing up and restoring a Dasd.
Using ADRDSSU:
DUMP FULL INDD(DASD)
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