Who is Lagging Whom? (Was: SYSIN in PROC -- technique)

2013-09-04 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/3/2013 3:15 PM, Clark Morris wrote: On 3 Sep 2013 12:42:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Be aware, use of system symbols in JCL is supported in JES2 in z/OS 2.1, NOT JES3. Another example of where the more expensive JES lags its cheaper brother. That cuts both ways...

Re: Who is Lagging Whom? (Was: SYSIN in PROC -- technique)

2013-09-04 Thread efinnell15
Eddie Stanky once got ejected for taking three smokin fast ball strikes from Bob Feller wheeled around and said 'Mr. Ump that last one sounded high!' I though that went away when they move CI back to MVS? In a message dated 09/04/13 02:24:00 Central Daylight Time,

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:30:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: upgrade to JES2. I have worked in a shop that had both JES2 and JES3 and I appreciated some of the things that I could do easily on JES3 that were difficult or impossible on JES2. For example, Dependent Job Control (DJC) networks.

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 09/04/2013 03:03 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:30:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: upgrade to JES2. I have worked in a shop that had both JES2 and JES3 and I appreciated some of the things that I could do easily on JES3 that were difficult or impossible on JES2. For

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Victor Gil
in PROC -- technique Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu I just discovered I can do such as: //SOURCE PROC //CEXEC PGM=ASMA90 //SYSIN DD * For caller to override. // DD * Main body of code MACRO TESTIT

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1001144189627242.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 09/03/2013 at 07:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: It's logically impossible for JES3 setup to exploit or even accommodate the newer features of JCL, even dating back to IF...THEN...ELSE...ENDIF. Nonsense. --

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:27:32 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 09/03/2013 at 07:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: It's logically impossible for JES3 setup to exploit or even accommodate the newer features of JCL, even dating back to IF...THEN...ELSE...ENDIF. Nonsense. OK. At least

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/4/2013 8:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:27:32 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 09/03/2013 at 07:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: It's logically impossible for JES3 setup to exploit or even accommodate the newer features of JCL, even dating back to

Re: Who is Lagging Whom? (Was: SYSIN in PROC -- technique)

2013-09-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 89229058.74b4.44a3.800c.8809e9102...@aol.com, on 09/04/2013 at 02:58 AM, efinnell15 efinnel...@aol.com said: I though that went away when they move CI back to MVS? MVS just split the interpretation code of the R/I into separate Converter and Interpreter functions. Spelling errors in

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 08:03 -0500 on 09/04/2013, Tom Marchant wrote about Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique: x-charset UTF-8On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:30:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: upgrade to JES2. I have worked in a shop that had both JES2 and JES3 and I appreciated some of the things that I could do easily

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-03 Thread Martin Packer
/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Smith, Sean M sean.m.sm...@bankofamerica.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, Date: 09/03/2013 08:42 PM Subject:Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Be aware, use

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-03 Thread Clark Morris
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 11:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique Yes, that would be a Release 13 thing. And yes my October residency will explore some

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:42:16 +, Smith, Sean M wrote: Be aware, use of system symbols in JCL is supported in JES2 in z/OS 2.1, NOT JES3. Another good reason to upgrade to JES2. It's logically impossible for JES3 setup to exploit or even accommodate the newer features of JCL, even dating

SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-08-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I just discovered I can do such as: //SOURCE PROC //CEXEC PGM=ASMA90 //SYSIN DD * For caller to override. // DD * Main body of code MACRO TESTIT CSECT ... END // PEND ... and the caller can

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-08-04 Thread Martin Packer
-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, Date: 08/04/2013 03:09 PM Subject:SYSIN in PROC