Re: Scheduling software
We use IBM TWS as our mainframe scheduler and I have worked on this as it's previous name OPC which is still used synominously. /Steve From: Scott Barry sba...@sbbworks.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 2015-05-15 18:08 Subject:Re: Scheduling software Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Fri, 15 May 2015 17:54:27 +, Lopez, Sharon sharon.lo...@nc.gov wrote: What are the majority of companies using for their mainframe scheduling software? Any concerns with ASG (ZEKE/ZEBB) filing for bankruptcy? CA-7 has a significant market (very mature - sadly though, for example, the VTAM-interface EDITOR has not changed substantially since I first used UCC7 as a beta client at ATT Long Lines in 1977). And consider CA-7 integration with it's companion software CA-11 (automated restart mgmt) interface. IBM/Tivoli Workload Scheduler (TWS) is also a viable candidate, as well as others. I'd say each/many solutions have strengths and weaknesses to each client's perspective, that being technical and aside from any emotional interests or lack thereof. Adequately, a given prospective client's ranking of feature/function would help determine what's important to a given enterprise. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Såvida annat inte anges ovan: / Unless stated otherwise above: IBM Svenska AB Organisationsnummer: 556026-6883 Adress: 164 92 Stockholm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Scheduling software
IBM Tivoli Workload Scheduler is fantastic, and I recommend it. However, since the idea of freebies came up, for those of you with DB2 for z/OS I'd like to mention a handy scheduler that's included with DB2 for z/OS at no additional charge: the DB2 Administrative Task Scheduler. As its name suggests, it's a scheduler focused on scheduling DB2 administrative tasks -- no surprise. If your needs non-trivially exceed that scope I'd investigate other, fuller function options (Tivoli Workload Scheduler notably), but it is a very useful DB2 feature. Relatedly, there's another, no additional charge component, the Management Console for IMS and DB2 for z/OS, that you are likely to find useful in part to take advantage the DB2 Administrative Task Scheduler. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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IBM-MAIN mailing list. The mainframe list Doron On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Mitch Mccluhan 005d889cebf0-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: Everyone: I concur with Tim regarding TWS. There are tons of extensions and features available to cover the entire enterprise. Regards, Mitch Mccluhan mitc...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sun, May 17, 2015 10:15 pm Subject: Re: Scheduling software IBM Tivoli Workload Scheduler is fantastic, and I recommend it. However, since the idea of freebies came up, for those of you with DB2 for z/OS I'd like to mention a handy scheduler that's included with DB2 for z/OS at no additional charge: the DB2 Administrative Task Scheduler. As its name suggests, it's a scheduler focused on scheduling DB2 administrative tasks -- no surprise. If your needs non-trivially exceed that scope I'd investigate other, fuller function options (Tivoli Workload Scheduler notably), but it is a very useful DB2 feature. Relatedly, there's another, no additional charge component, the Management Console for IMS and DB2 for z/OS, that you are likely to find useful in part to take advantage the DB2 Administrative Task Scheduler. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- בברכה, *דורון גבע* - 054-4974548 doron.geva...@gmail.com Regards, Doron Geva - +972-54-4974548 doron.geva...@gmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Everyone: I concur with Tim regarding TWS. There are tons of extensions and features available to cover the entire enterprise. Regards, Mitch Mccluhan mitc...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sun, May 17, 2015 10:15 pm Subject: Re: Scheduling software IBM Tivoli Workload Scheduler is fantastic, and I recommend it. However, since the idea of freebies came up, for those of you with DB2 for z/OS I'd like to mention a handy scheduler that's included with DB2 for z/OS at no additional charge: the DB2 Administrative Task Scheduler. As its name suggests, it's a scheduler focused on scheduling DB2 administrative tasks -- no surprise. If your needs non-trivially exceed that scope I'd investigate other, fuller function options (Tivoli Workload Scheduler notably), but it is a very useful DB2 feature. Relatedly, there's another, no additional charge component, the Management Console for IMS and DB2 for z/OS, that you are likely to find useful in part to take advantage the DB2 Administrative Task Scheduler. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 05/16/2015 03:03 AM, Brian Westerman wrote: For simple Time of Day/Day of week job and task scheduling there is SyzAUTO/z www.SyzygyInc.com/SyzAUTOz.htm. It's quite a bit cheaper than the products from IBM, CA, and ASG. Brian Westerman There are also some freebies from cbttape.org for initiating console commands, STCs, or jobs at some future time. This is the easy part of automated scheduling. The hard part is reliably monitoring success/failure of individual jobs in job streams of related production jobs and handling job restarts after failures have occurred. A small number of Operators can reliably oversee thousands of production jobs per day with CA, ASG, or similar scheduling products that provide the capability to perform routine production job tracking and provide support for the occasional job restart to recover from inevitable failures. I can't conceive of trying to reliably run a production z/OS system with even a few hundred scheduled jobs per day without having such tools in place. -- Joel C. Ewing,Bentonville, AR jcew...@acm.org -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Brian Westerman wrote: For simple Time of Day/Day of week job and task scheduling there is SyzAUTO/z www.SyzygyInc.com/SyzAUTOz.htm. It's quite a bit cheaper than the products from IBM, CA, and ASG. A good suggestion. Joel Ewing wrote: There are also some freebies from cbttape.org for initiating console commands, STCs, or jobs at some future time. This is the easy part of automated scheduling. Indeed. Also referring to those timed MVS commands and checking whether a thing is running or not before issuing commands. I have used some of them, before finally writing my own 'Commander' - timed z/OS command issuer used during IPL and shutdowns. I can't conceive of trying to reliably run a production z/OS system with even a few hundred scheduled jobs per day without having such tools in place. Coming back to the same story as with Scott Barry. You need a full need analysis what you need for your scheduling. You need things like: Events, Triggers, condition-codes, automatic JCL+source translation (variable substation), calendars of various types each with their own deadlines, etc. plus security to keep the users out of each other schedules, jobs and output. Things like this can be done by automation (I am withholding the name of our automation software - I am not a marketer!), //SMF DD DSN=SMF.A.YEAR.MONTH translated to //SMF DD DSN=SMF.A201505 or in an ICETOOL input for some report Heading: Violations for YEAR/MONTH/DAY translated to Violations for 2015/05/15 Of course YMMV. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On May 16, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Joel Ewing wrote: On 05/16/2015 03:03 AM, Brian Westerman wrote: For simple Time of Day/Day of week job and task scheduling there is SyzAUTO/z www.SyzygyInc.com/SyzAUTOz.htm. It's quite a bit cheaper than the products from IBM, CA, and ASG. Brian Westerman There are also some freebies from cbttape.org for initiating console commands, STCs, or jobs at some future time. This is the easy part of automated scheduling. The hard part is reliably monitoring success/failure of individual jobs in job streams of related production jobs and handling job restarts after failures have occurred. A small number of Operators can reliably oversee thousands of production jobs per day with CA, ASG, or similar scheduling products that provide the capability to perform routine production job tracking and provide support for the occasional job restart to recover from inevitable failures. I can't conceive of trying to reliably run a production z/OS system with even a few hundred scheduled jobs per day without having such tools in place. Joel: I concur with you. At one place I was at UCC7 was used quite successful for scheduling several hundred job a night. Disclaimer here I have no knowledge of the product other than install Maintenance. I do remember one distinct run in I had with UCC11 and that it did not support SWA above the line. I got into a discussion (rather loud one) I was told afterwards with the people. I got so mad that I went in and fixed the source myself. It was a minor fix. After a week or two with calling in daily for a fix. I told them that I fixed their source myself and damned if I was going to share it with them and they begged me for it. I told them if they would give us UCC11 for one year I would. Then I got the salesman calling me asking me for the fix. I finally told them to stuffit. They were holding me up on a CBPDO install. My boss was mildly amused. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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For simple Time of Day/Day of week job and task scheduling there is SyzAUTO/z www.SyzygyInc.com/SyzAUTOz.htm. It's quite a bit cheaper than the products from IBM, CA, and ASG. Brian Westerman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Scheduling software
What are the majority of companies using for their mainframe scheduling software? Any concerns with ASG (ZEKE/ZEBB) filing for bankruptcy? E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. Email correspondence to and from this sender is subject to the N.C. Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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What are the majority of companies using for their mainframe scheduling software? The State of Iowa uses BMC Control-M, at least on the LPAR on which DHS is deployed. Our installation is a cross-platform solution with workload running on both the mainframe and distributed platforms. This has been a fairly recent development here. Previously we had a homebrew solution that leveraged JES3 Dependent Job Control. Our experience has been generally positive. John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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There is CA Workload Automation, CA 7, CA Scheduler, JOBTRAC (not sure what its current name is) and BMC CONTROL products Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lopez, Sharon Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Scheduling software What are the majority of companies using for their mainframe scheduling software? Any concerns with ASG (ZEKE/ZEBB) filing for bankruptcy? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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We had the same concerns over the IDMS products we use that ASG owns From what I have read, ASG has emerged from chapter 11 (as of May 4), the founder and owner has stepped down, and the debt has been purchased by various groups. Does this mean ASG is guaranteed not to have trouble in the future, certainly not. But we are sticking with our investment in ASG products Chris hoelscher Technology Architect Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 choelsc...@humana.com Humana.com (502) 714-8615 (502) 476-2538 with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Scheduling software
W dniu 2015-05-15 o 20:38, Mitch Mccluhan pisze: I would strongly recommend against any ASG product. Why? Just curious... (answer offline is also welcome) Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2015 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.840.228 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Also, there is a list at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_job_scheduler_software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I would strongly recommend against any ASG product. I personally suggest TWS from IBM. If you currently have a mainframe scheduler, I have been involved in a few conversion/migration projects from scheduler X to TWS, using a suite of automated tools. Mitch Mccluhan mitc...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Lopez, Sharon sharon.lo...@nc.gov To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Fri, May 15, 2015 12:54 pm Subject: Scheduling software What are the majority of companies using for their mainframe scheduling software? Any concerns with ASG (ZEKE/ZEBB) filing for bankruptcy? E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. Email correspondence to and from this sender is subject to the N.C. Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Sharon, there are many alternatives. I've worked with AutoMan from Exspans Inc. You can find more info at http://exspans.ca/products_pages/AutoMan To my knowledge it has a higher-than-average value-for-money ratio. Whether or not that holds for your particular situation is something you'll have to find out for yourself. Kind regards, Abe Kornelis. === Lopez, Sharon schreef op 15-5-2015 om 19:54: What are the majority of companies using for their mainframe scheduling software? Any concerns with ASG (ZEKE/ZEBB) filing for bankruptcy? E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. Email correspondence to and from this sender is subject to the N.C. Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Scheduling software
On Fri, 15 May 2015 17:54:27 +, Lopez, Sharon sharon.lo...@nc.gov wrote: What are the majority of companies using for their mainframe scheduling software? Any concerns with ASG (ZEKE/ZEBB) filing for bankruptcy? CA-7 has a significant market (very mature - sadly though, for example, the VTAM-interface EDITOR has not changed substantially since I first used UCC7 as a beta client at ATT Long Lines in 1977). And consider CA-7 integration with it's companion software CA-11 (automated restart mgmt) interface. IBM/Tivoli Workload Scheduler (TWS) is also a viable candidate, as well as others. I'd say each/many solutions have strengths and weaknesses to each client's perspective, that being technical and aside from any emotional interests or lack thereof. Adequately, a given prospective client's ranking of feature/function would help determine what's important to a given enterprise. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
