Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 May 2020 22:58:55 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 5/29/2020 7:00 PM, Peter Vels wrote: >> How does one get the TIME a z/OS data set was created? The date is easy, >> but I'm after the time. > >Data set creation time has been supported by z/OS for many years. To get >it, you must allocate

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-06-01 Thread Graham Harris
Staller wrote: > There is an old usermod that stored the date time somewhere in the F1 > DSCB. Check the CBTTAPE. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Tom Brennan > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 1:27 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-06-01 Thread Allan Staller
There is an old usermod that stored the date time somewhere in the F1 DSCB. Check the CBTTAPE. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 1:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created

TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-31 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
I don't know if CA-ASM2 through some of its' exits could record the Time a dataset was created. I do know that it was capable of recording the creating job name using some of the Reserved fields in the FMT1.DSCB. k.kri...@comcast.net

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Tom Brennan
SAMS sounds familiar, thanks! Original Message Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? From: Alan Young Date: Sat, May 30, 2020 1:02 pm To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU You may be thinking of DMS/OS aka SAMS:DISK aka CA-DISK. From: Tom Brennan

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Ed Jaffe [edja...@phoenixsoftware.com] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 10:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? On 5/30/2020 7:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > What's the option to select FMT8/9 DSCBs in: > o JCL DD statements? &

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Scott Barry [sba...@sbbworks.com] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 11:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? Additional consideration is that the dataset must be created on an EAV DASD volume in order

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
was created? How is that better than UTC? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 4:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? No, the *RIGHT* way

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Charles Mills
How is that better than UTC? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 4:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? No, the *RIGHT* way

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? > ISPF, JES, SYSLOG, OPERLOG,

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Alan Young
You may be thinking of DMS/OS aka SAMS:DISK aka CA-DISK. From: Tom Brennan Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 23:27 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? Semi-Related - I seem to remember a software product, not sure what the name

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Charles Mills
nframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 7:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? On 5/30/2020 7:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > What's the option to select FMT8/9 DSCBs in: > o JCL DD sta

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Scott Barry
Additional consideration is that the dataset must be created on an EAV DASD volume in order to include a time-portion. Additional data-fields included in FORMAT-9 DSCB as of z/OS V1R11 are CREATE JOBNAME, STEPNAME (but not PROC-STEP info). Sadly, I remember that a DFHSM-recalled dataset

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Gibney, Dave
I need to update my ACS/SMS configuration. Thanks, Ed, for the "new" information. I didn't know this. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Ed Jaffe > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 7:29 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 30 May 2020 07:29:17 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 5/30/2020 7:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> What's the option to select FMT8/9 DSCBs in: >> o JCL DD statements? >> o TSO ALLOCATE? >> o BPXWDYN > >This functionality has been around since 2008. You select it with the >EATTR= parameter,

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Charles Mills
tion make logical sense. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 7:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? On Fri, 29 May 2020 22:58:55 -0700,

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Lionel B Dyck
" - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? On 5/30/2020 7:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > What's the option to select FMT8/9 D

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/30/2020 7:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: What's the option to select FMT8/9 DSCBs in: o JCL DD statements? o TSO ALLOCATE? o BPXWDYN This functionality has been around since 2008. You select it with the EATTR= parameter, which is available through JCL and dynamic allocation techniques.

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 May 2020 22:58:55 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 5/29/2020 7:00 PM, Peter Vels wrote: >> How does one get the TIME a z/OS data set was created? The date is easy, >> but I'm after the time. > (further -- gil ) > >Background: Periodically I update a list of data sets created by an

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-30 Thread Tom Brennan
t HSM does, prior to HSM becoming popular. Just trying to jog my lost memories from the early 1980's. Note: I did not inhale. Original Message Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? From: "Gibney, Dave" Date: Fri, May 29, 2020 10:36 pm To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/29/2020 7:00 PM, Peter Vels wrote: How does one get the TIME a z/OS data set was created? The date is easy, but I'm after the time. Data set creation time has been supported by z/OS for many years. To get it, you must allocate using FMT8/9 DSCBs in the VTOC instead of FMT1. When you do

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-29 Thread Mike Schwab
ty) - you can feed it SMF data based on dataset names, and it will > > provide SMF records that probably have a timestamp > > > > Lizette > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > > Of Peter Vels >

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-29 Thread Gibney, Dave
Of Peter Vels > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 9:43 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? > > A number of people both on and off the list have mentioned SMF. Even if I > had permission to read SMF data (I don't) I think it would be too much >

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-29 Thread Peter Vels
t; From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Peter Vels > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 7:01 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: TIME a data set was created? > > How does one get the TIME a z/OS data set was created? The date is easy, > but I'm after the time. >

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Vels Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 7:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TIME a data set was created? How does one get the TIME a z/OS data set was created? The date is easy, but I'm after the time. Background: Periodically I update a list of data sets

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-29 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieag200/iea3g2_Evaluating_Data_Set_Activity.htm SMF Type 61 (catalog DSN)??? On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 2:01 AM Peter Vels wrote: > > How does one get the TIME a z/OS data set was created? The date is easy, > but I'm after

TIME a data set was created?

2020-05-29 Thread Peter Vels
How does one get the TIME a z/OS data set was created? The date is easy, but I'm after the time. Background: Periodically I update a list of data sets created by an application over which I have no control. I want to sort the list by descending date and time. Where can I get the time from?