W dniu 2018-03-20 o 19:53, Pommier, Rex pisze:
Heck, I don't even know how many installations are in my city - and that's only
a couple hundred thousand people!
IMHO it very hard (close to impossible) to collect good information
about sites without sligltly compromissing company information.
Australia may have zero VSE shops now.
z/OS, at a guess would be between 80-200.
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 7:51 PM, Dejan Stamatovic
wrote:
> Just for the sake of anybody’s interest.
>
> There in Serbia (a small European market) we have:
>
> 4 z/OS installations
>
> 1 VSE
The numbers I have (for z/OS) from a big distro in the states talks about
3,500 in the North America. I believe the numbers are about 5,500-6,000.
ITschak
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Tomasz Rola wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 03:51:24AM -0500, Dejan Stamatovic wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 03:51:24AM -0500, Dejan Stamatovic wrote:
> Just for the sake of anybody’s interest.
>
> There in Serbia (a small European market) we have:
>
> 4 z/OS installations
>
> 1 VSE installations
>
> Do not know whether this proves anybody's point but there it is!
So, quick
Just for the sake of anybody’s interest.
There in Serbia (a small European market) we have:
4 z/OS installations
1 VSE installations
Do not know whether this proves anybody's point but there it is!
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Phil,
It is funny they are trying to hide it. The information can be collected
.
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ITschak Mugzach wrote:
>I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe)
Phil,
It is funny they are trying to hide it. The information can be collected
from free resources like job seeking portals, linkedin searches, etc. it's
just a question of time one has to invest collecting this info. IBM or any
other vendor can't block clients from posting jobs. As IBM claims
ITschak Mugzach wrote:
>I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe market
>...
(And then after various discussion):
>Strange it is so hard to collect this information.
Why? It's proprietary information for IBM about their market. As a vendor for
the last 35 years,
opment, etc is elsewhere, they just have a data center here. Which of
> these qualifies as a site or an installation?
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> Rex
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Same problem. We have a lot of BIG states, with widely spaced cities...
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:35 PM, ITschak Mugzach <imugz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So let's divide it into states...
>
> On Tue, Mar
Same problem. We have a lot of BIG states, with widely spaced cities...
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:35 PM, ITschak Mugzach wrote:
> So let's divide it into states...
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 7:01 PM, zMan wrote:
>
> > Maybe in smaller countries. In
at most of us aware of the number of sites in their country.
> > They look for jobs from time to time, meet others in couses, fairs, etc.
> > Number should not be 100% accurate.
> >
> > ITschak
> >
> > בתאריך 20 במרץ 2018 16:15, "Charles Mills" &l
; Number should not be 100% accurate.
>
> ITschak
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> בתאריך 20 במרץ 2018 16:15, "Charles Mills" <charl...@mcn.org> כתב:
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> > > can we back to the main issue here: Mainframe distribution"?
> >
> > Those who know don't say; those who say don't k
back to the main issue here: Mainframe distribution"?
>
> Those who know don't say; those who say don't know.
>
> The question comes up here from time to time and the answer is always the
> same.
>
> Charles
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> can we back to the main issue here: Mainframe distribution"?
Those who know don't say; those who say don't know.
The question comes up here from time to time and the answer is always the same.
Charles
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Ten twins and none of them if Asia? Please recommend the city of Stuttgart
have a twin city in Israel ;-) I can recommend some, if needed...
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distribution"?
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בתאריך 20 במרץ 2018 0:20, "
Am 19.03.2018 um 17:57 schrieb R.S.:
Bernd,
I know the installation and know people related to it.
Note: your 4381 was replaced with P/390 and after few years mainframe
completely switched off.
For my knowledge they have never used VSE in production.
What they used was ODRA emulator under
Am 19.03.2018 um 17:07 schrieb Tony Harminc:
On 19 March 2018 at 11:45, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
Stuttgart and Lodz are partner towns (jumelage in French,
don't know the English expression).
Often the expressions "twin towns" or "twin cities" are used, which is
m...@beer.at (Mike Beer) writes:
> https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zvse/about/history1970s.html
Endicott told me there was 6kbytes available for assist microcode ... I
was to identify the highest used code paths in the vm370 kernel for
replication in microcode.
(standard 370 kernel
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Am 19.03.2018 um 10:52 schrieb R.S.:
> W dniu 2018-03-19 o 06:24, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
>> I wonder if any
W dniu 2018-03-19 o 16:45, Bernd Oppolzer pisze:
Am 19.03.2018 um 10:52 schrieb R.S.:
W dniu 2018-03-19 o 06:24, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe
market size:
- number of sites
- vse vs zos
- continental distribution
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I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe market
size:
- number of sites
- vse vs
On 19 March 2018 at 11:45, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
> Stuttgart and Lodz are partner towns (jumelage in French,
> don't know the English expression).
Often the expressions "twin towns" or "twin cities" are used, which is
exactly translatable with the French term. But
Am 19.03.2018 um 10:52 schrieb R.S.:
W dniu 2018-03-19 o 06:24, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe
market size:
- number of sites
- vse vs zos
- continental distribution
- sectiors
IBM?
I'm pretty sure IBM is not
W dniu 2018-03-19 o 12:41, Steve Horein pisze:
Always an interesting question, but how useful/practical is the answer?
Curiosity?
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z/OS sites - approx. 50, but majority is small. Only 5 sites above 1000
MIPS.
(I know all of them, worked somehow for significant part of them)
AS/400 aka System i - I have no idea. I know few installations, but I
don't know what is the part of whole picture.
People say, in early 2000's the
I know i am not the first to ask... becoming an IBMer is not an option...
ITschak
בתאריך 19 במרץ 2018 12:51, "Elardus Engelbrecht" <
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> כתב:
> ITschak Mugzach wrote:
>
> >How about z/os sites? As/400 sites? I am sure 3rd party vendors has the
> information, at
ITschak Mugzach wrote:
>How about z/os sites? As/400 sites? I am sure 3rd party vendors has the
>information, at least partially.
>Un Israel there are about 10 VSE sites and 15 z/os. AS/400 is much more
>popular.
It could be easier if you could try obtaining the formula of coca-cola or KFC
Thanks.
How about z/os sites? As/400 sites? I am sure 3rd party vendors has the
information, at least partially.
Un Israel there are about 10 VSE sites and 15 z/os. AS/400 is much more
popular.
ITschak
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:52 AM, R.S.
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> W dniu
W dniu 2018-03-19 o 06:24, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe
market size:
- number of sites
- vse vs zos
- continental distribution
- sectiors
IBM?
I'm pretty sure IBM is not wiling to share this information. Maybe
I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe
market size:
- number of sites
- vse vs zos
- continental distribution
- sectiors
ITschak
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