Re: real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-03 Thread Dana Mitchell
If you had 3990-6 control units, you could do the equivalent of RAID1 called dual-copy on real 3390s. I remember swapping HDA's on several occasions concurrently using that capability. Dana On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 19:26:05 +, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net wrote: I am thinking only of a SLED

real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread DASDBILL2
I know it has been decades since IBM manufactured its last real CKD controller, but what was the exact date when the last new one was shipped? Just curious. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, June

Re: real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
dasdbi...@comcast.net (DASDBILL2) writes: I know it has been decades since IBM manufactured its last real CKD controller, but what was the exact date when the last new one was shipped? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#82 Costs of core http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#83 Costs

Re: real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread DASDBILL2
Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 9:55:46 AM Subject: Re: real vs. emulated CKD dasdbi...@comcast.net (DASDBILL2) writes: I know it has been decades since IBM manufactured its last real CKD controller, but what was the exact date when the last new one was shipped? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn

Re: real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread Pommier, Rex
: Re: real vs. emulated CKD I will rephrase my question.  When did any vendor last ship a 3390 DASD to anyone with non-RAID SLEDs inside for use on any kind of operating system which did not have direct support for FBA in its customer-usable access method repertoire?  There must have been some

Re: real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
rpomm...@sfgmembers.com (Pommier, Rex) writes: While I don't know when the 3390s last rolled off the assembly line, I believe they were all SLEDs. After that came the short-lived 9340/9345 subsystem which had a different track length than the 3390 (built on 5 1/4 inch drives), then the RAMAC

Re: real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 17:24:44 +, DASDBILL2 wrote: I will rephrase my question.  When did any vendor last ship a 3390 DASD to anyone with non-RAID SLEDs inside for use on any kind of operating system which did not have direct support for FBA in its customer-usable access method repertoire? 

Re: real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread DASDBILL2
- Original Message - From: Rex Pommier rpomm...@sfgmembers.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 12:39:28 PM Subject: Re: real vs. emulated CKD Bill, While I don't know when the 3390s last rolled off the assembly line, I believe they were all SLEDs.  After

Re: real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread Pommier, Rex
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: real vs. emulated CKD I am thinking only of a SLED that was implemented without RAID, regardless of how real or quasi its CKD-ness was.  I am satisfied with knowing that it was around 12/31/96 for the 3390 and possibly a little for the 9340, but only

Re: real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-06-02 19:24, DASDBILL2 pisze: I will rephrase my question. When did any vendor last ship a 3390 DASD to anyone with non-RAID SLEDs inside for use on any kind of operating system which did not have direct support for FBA in its customer-usable access method repertoire? There must