Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-06 Thread Ron hawkins
Tony,

I remember some behavior like this from the days of real tape.

Was the behavior that RETAIN would rewind but not dismount the tape, even at 
the end of the step, and it was AVR that found the tape if an ensuing step 
needed it.

If there was another mount request before the ensuing step went into allocation 
and no empty drives were available, an unallocated drive with tape on it is 
selected for the allocation. RETAIN does not retain the allocation, just the 
tape.

We got around this problem by using the Mount command to keep the tape mounted 
between jobs and jobs steps.

Ron



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Allan Staller
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

Swaps?

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: 04 May 2018 17:47
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

I currently think it has to do with a combination of a faulty tape and a 
mis-configuration in the IODEF, and a testing environment.

Normally, this CPU has no powered-up real tape drives, just a VTL. For some 
testing of new back-up procedures, they wanted me to use a real
3590 so as to not add a bunch of data to the VTL that would then have to be 
replicated.

So, I powered-up and varied on some tape drives. The IODEF thinks they have 
auto-loaders, but they do not. So, I have get a configuration error when I run 
the job on just the first file.

And, since we don't have a lot of spare real 3590 tapes, I have been using the 
same two tapes repeatedly.

I have noticed that the errors only occur on one of the tapes. I think the 
recovery process wants to re-index the tape position but without the 
autoloader, it is failing then the operating system is switching to a new drive.

Tony Thigpen

Lizette Koehler wrote on 05/04/2018 06:12 PM:
> I am not sure if this was covered,
>
> But would the combination of
>
> VOL=REF=*  and DISP=(,PASS) not work at keeping the tape up?
>
> Lizette
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 
>> Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 1:32 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN
>>
>> No go. Unit=Aff is only applicable within the same job step.
>>
>> Tony Thigpen
>>
>> Chris Hoelscher wrote on 05/04/2018 04:05 PM:
>>> Unit=aff=step.ddname  ???
>>>
>>> Chris Hoelscher
>>> Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology 
>>> Solution Services Humana Inc.
>>> 123 East Main Street
>>> Louisville, KY 40202
>>> Humana.com
>>> (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
>>> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:35 PM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: [IBM-MAIN] unexpected tape issue with RETAIN
>>>
>>> I have a 50+ step backup job (using real 3590s) that has steps like:
>>>
>>> //STEP049 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
>>> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
>>> //DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD4
>>> //BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD4.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
>>> // UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP048.BACKUP),
>>> // LABEL=(49,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
>>> //SYSINDD  *
>>> DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
>>> /*
>>> //*
>>> //STEP050 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
>>> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
>>> //DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD5
>>> //BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD5.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
>>> // UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP049.BACKUP),
>>> // LABEL=(50,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
>>> //SYSINDD  *
>>> DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
>>> /*
>>>
>>> This job always worked on OS/390 2.10, but under z/OS 1.13, 
>>> randomly, when
>> going to a new step, it wants the current tape mounted on a different 3590.
>> Additionally, it does not unload the tape from the first drive.
>>>
>>> Also: If I have only one drive online, it runs to completion. If I 
>>> have two
>> drives, but the other one is busy, it runs to completion.
>>>
>>> Info: This system is using RMM as a tape manager, but the fil

Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-06 Thread Allan Staller
Swaps?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: 04 May 2018 17:47
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

I currently think it has to do with a combination of a faulty tape and a 
mis-configuration in the IODEF, and a testing environment.

Normally, this CPU has no powered-up real tape drives, just a VTL. For some 
testing of new back-up procedures, they wanted me to use a real
3590 so as to not add a bunch of data to the VTL that would then have to be 
replicated.

So, I powered-up and varied on some tape drives. The IODEF thinks they have 
auto-loaders, but they do not. So, I have get a configuration error when I run 
the job on just the first file.

And, since we don't have a lot of spare real 3590 tapes, I have been using the 
same two tapes repeatedly.

I have noticed that the errors only occur on one of the tapes. I think the 
recovery process wants to re-index the tape position but without the 
autoloader, it is failing then the operating system is switching to a new drive.

Tony Thigpen

Lizette Koehler wrote on 05/04/2018 06:12 PM:
> I am not sure if this was covered,
>
> But would the combination of
>
> VOL=REF=*  and DISP=(,PASS) not work at keeping the tape up?
>
> Lizette
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
>> Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 1:32 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN
>>
>> No go. Unit=Aff is only applicable within the same job step.
>>
>> Tony Thigpen
>>
>> Chris Hoelscher wrote on 05/04/2018 04:05 PM:
>>> Unit=aff=step.ddname  ???
>>>
>>> Chris Hoelscher
>>> Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology
>>> Solution Services Humana Inc.
>>> 123 East Main Street
>>> Louisville, KY 40202
>>> Humana.com
>>> (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
>>> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:35 PM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: [IBM-MAIN] unexpected tape issue with RETAIN
>>>
>>> I have a 50+ step backup job (using real 3590s) that has steps like:
>>>
>>> //STEP049 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
>>> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
>>> //DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD4
>>> //BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD4.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
>>> // UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP048.BACKUP),
>>> // LABEL=(49,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
>>> //SYSINDD  *
>>> DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
>>> /*
>>> //*
>>> //STEP050 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
>>> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
>>> //DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD5
>>> //BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD5.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
>>> // UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP049.BACKUP),
>>> // LABEL=(50,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
>>> //SYSINDD  *
>>> DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
>>> /*
>>>
>>> This job always worked on OS/390 2.10, but under z/OS 1.13,
>>> randomly, when
>> going to a new step, it wants the current tape mounted on a different 3590.
>> Additionally, it does not unload the tape from the first drive.
>>>
>>> Also: If I have only one drive online, it runs to completion. If I
>>> have two
>> drives, but the other one is busy, it runs to completion.
>>>
>>> Info: This system is using RMM as a tape manager, but the files
>>> being
>> created on the tape are not defined in any storage group or RMM.
>>>
>>> It is driving me batty. I have to be 'not seeing' something.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Tony Thigpen
I currently think it has to do with a combination of a faulty tape and a 
mis-configuration in the IODEF, and a testing environment.


Normally, this CPU has no powered-up real tape drives, just a VTL. For 
some testing of new back-up procedures, they wanted me to use a real 
3590 so as to not add a bunch of data to the VTL that would then have to 
be replicated.


So, I powered-up and varied on some tape drives. The IODEF thinks they 
have auto-loaders, but they do not. So, I have get a configuration error 
when I run the job on just the first file.


And, since we don't have a lot of spare real 3590 tapes, I have been 
using the same two tapes repeatedly.


I have noticed that the errors only occur on one of the tapes. I think 
the recovery process wants to re-index the tape position but without the 
autoloader, it is failing then the operating system is switching to a 
new drive.


Tony Thigpen

Lizette Koehler wrote on 05/04/2018 06:12 PM:

I am not sure if this was covered,

But would the combination of

VOL=REF=*  and DISP=(,PASS) not work at keeping the tape up?

Lizette



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of
Tony Thigpen
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 1:32 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

No go. Unit=Aff is only applicable within the same job step.

Tony Thigpen

Chris Hoelscher wrote on 05/04/2018 04:05 PM:

Unit=aff=step.ddname  ???

Chris Hoelscher
Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology
Solution Services Humana Inc.
123 East Main Street
Louisville, KY 40202
Humana.com
(502) 476-2538 or 407-7266


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [IBM-MAIN] unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

I have a 50+ step backup job (using real 3590s) that has steps like:

//STEP049 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD4
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD4.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP048.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(49,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*
//*
//STEP050 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD5
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD5.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP049.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(50,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*

This job always worked on OS/390 2.10, but under z/OS 1.13, randomly, when

going to a new step, it wants the current tape mounted on a different 3590.
Additionally, it does not unload the tape from the first drive.


Also: If I have only one drive online, it runs to completion. If I have two

drives, but the other one is busy, it runs to completion.


Info: This system is using RMM as a tape manager, but the files being

created on the tape are not defined in any storage group or RMM.


It is driving me batty. I have to be 'not seeing' something.


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Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Steely.Mark
I usually use UNIT=AFF=SMFIN - Maybe you can try that instead.  

Not sure of the syntax but it always works for me.

Thank You 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 2:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

I have a 50+ step backup job (using real 3590s) that has steps like:

//STEP049 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD4
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD4.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP048.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(49,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
  DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*
//*
//STEP050 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD5
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD5.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP049.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(50,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
  DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*

This job always worked on OS/390 2.10, but under z/OS 1.13, randomly, 
when going to a new step, it wants the current tape mounted on a 
different 3590. Additionally, it does not unload the tape from the first 
drive.

Also: If I have only one drive online, it runs to completion. If I have 
two drives, but the other one is busy, it runs to completion.

Info: This system is using RMM as a tape manager, but the files being 
created on the tape are not defined in any storage group or RMM.

It is driving me batty. I have to be 'not seeing' something.


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Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am not sure if this was covered,

But would the combination of 

VOL=REF=*  and DISP=(,PASS) not work at keeping the tape up?

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of
> Tony Thigpen
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 1:32 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN
> 
> No go. Unit=Aff is only applicable within the same job step.
> 
> Tony Thigpen
> 
> Chris Hoelscher wrote on 05/04/2018 04:05 PM:
> > Unit=aff=step.ddname  ???
> >
> > Chris Hoelscher
> > Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology
> > Solution Services Humana Inc.
> > 123 East Main Street
> > Louisville, KY 40202
> > Humana.com
> > (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> > Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:35 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: [IBM-MAIN] unexpected tape issue with RETAIN
> >
> > I have a 50+ step backup job (using real 3590s) that has steps like:
> >
> > //STEP049 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
> > //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> > //DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD4
> > //BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD4.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
> > // UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP048.BACKUP),
> > // LABEL=(49,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
> > //SYSINDD  *
> >DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
> > /*
> > //*
> > //STEP050 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
> > //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> > //DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD5
> > //BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD5.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
> > // UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP049.BACKUP),
> > // LABEL=(50,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
> > //SYSINDD  *
> >DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
> > /*
> >
> > This job always worked on OS/390 2.10, but under z/OS 1.13, randomly, when
> going to a new step, it wants the current tape mounted on a different 3590.
> Additionally, it does not unload the tape from the first drive.
> >
> > Also: If I have only one drive online, it runs to completion. If I have two
> drives, but the other one is busy, it runs to completion.
> >
> > Info: This system is using RMM as a tape manager, but the files being
> created on the tape are not defined in any storage group or RMM.
> >
> > It is driving me batty. I have to be 'not seeing' something.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tony Thigpen
> >

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Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Gary Jacek
Is it possible there is some competing "service" that forces drive maintenance 
(head cleaning?) every xxx tape mounts?

An RMM feature?


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Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: May 4, 2018 12:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

I have a 50+ step backup job (using real 3590s) that has steps like:

//STEP049 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD4
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD4.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP048.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(49,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
  DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*
//*
//STEP050 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD5
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD5.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP049.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(50,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
  DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*

This job always worked on OS/390 2.10, but under z/OS 1.13, randomly, 
when going to a new step, it wants the current tape mounted on a 
different 3590. Additionally, it does not unload the tape from the first 
drive.

Also: If I have only one drive online, it runs to completion. If I have 
two drives, but the other one is busy, it runs to completion.

Info: This system is using RMM as a tape manager, but the files being 
created on the tape are not defined in any storage group or RMM.

It is driving me batty. I have to be 'not seeing' something.


-- 
Tony Thigpen

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Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Tony Thigpen

No go. Unit=Aff is only applicable within the same job step.

Tony Thigpen

Chris Hoelscher wrote on 05/04/2018 04:05 PM:

Unit=aff=step.ddname  ???

Chris Hoelscher
Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services
Technology Solution Services
Humana Inc.
123 East Main Street
Louisville, KY 40202
Humana.com
(502) 476-2538 or 407-7266


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [IBM-MAIN] unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

I have a 50+ step backup job (using real 3590s) that has steps like:

//STEP049 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD4
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD4.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP048.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(49,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
   DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*
//*
//STEP050 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD5
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD5.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP049.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(50,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
   DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*

This job always worked on OS/390 2.10, but under z/OS 1.13, randomly, when 
going to a new step, it wants the current tape mounted on a different 3590. 
Additionally, it does not unload the tape from the first drive.

Also: If I have only one drive online, it runs to completion. If I have two 
drives, but the other one is busy, it runs to completion.

Info: This system is using RMM as a tape manager, but the files being created 
on the tape are not defined in any storage group or RMM.

It is driving me batty. I have to be 'not seeing' something.


--
Tony Thigpen

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Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Unit=aff=step.ddname  ???

Chris Hoelscher
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:35 PM
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Subject: [IBM-MAIN] unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

I have a 50+ step backup job (using real 3590s) that has steps like:

//STEP049 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD4
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD4.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP048.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(49,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
  DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*
//*
//STEP050 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD5
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD5.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP049.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(50,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
  DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*

This job always worked on OS/390 2.10, but under z/OS 1.13, randomly, when 
going to a new step, it wants the current tape mounted on a different 3590. 
Additionally, it does not unload the tape from the first drive.

Also: If I have only one drive online, it runs to completion. If I have two 
drives, but the other one is busy, it runs to completion.

Info: This system is using RMM as a tape manager, but the files being created 
on the tape are not defined in any storage group or RMM.

It is driving me batty. I have to be 'not seeing' something.


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unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Tony Thigpen

I have a 50+ step backup job (using real 3590s) that has steps like:

//STEP049 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD4
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD4.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP048.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(49,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
 DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*
//*
//STEP050 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD DD  DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD5
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD5.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP049.BACKUP),
// LABEL=(50,SL,RETPD=),DCB=(MODEL.DSCB,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD  *
 DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE
/*

This job always worked on OS/390 2.10, but under z/OS 1.13, randomly, 
when going to a new step, it wants the current tape mounted on a 
different 3590. Additionally, it does not unload the tape from the first 
drive.


Also: If I have only one drive online, it runs to completion. If I have 
two drives, but the other one is busy, it runs to completion.


Info: This system is using RMM as a tape manager, but the files being 
created on the tape are not defined in any storage group or RMM.


It is driving me batty. I have to be 'not seeing' something.


--
Tony Thigpen

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