Re: Brain drain: Where Cobol systems go from here

2012-06-21 Thread Tom Ross
The issue of COBOL compiler messages was discussed here, and most agreed it would not be that helpful, since it would mostly say 'please see the COBOL Language Reference Manual'. Those calling for a messages manual were asking IBM for a real manual, not for IBM to just go through the motions. The

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mark Zelden wrote: I'm not sure exactly. Maybe to keep 2 of them start are started at the same time from causing a problem since nothing else uses that qname/rname. This is what I also guessed. Prevent two or more 'I SMF' happening at the same time in a Sysplex. As for the RESERVEs done when

Re: convert Decimal to bytes

2012-06-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Art aa...@usa.net wrote: Hi would anyone know of a calculator and/or formal via rexx that I could use/setup to convert decimal to bytes. I would like to multiply x (decimal) by 80 and add an extra 80 bytes. Is this a homework assignment? Based on the lots of feedback, it is still not

Re: SAVING OUTPUT WHEN IN $AVRS

2012-06-21 Thread Carroll, William
Willie, You might want to look at the '$avrpull' utility. The output from that can be written to disk. This is a batch utility, provided with the product. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent:

SAVING OUTPUT WHEN IN $AVRS

2012-06-21 Thread willie bunter
Good Day To All,   Could anybody tell me how I can save a job output which is in $AVRS to disk?  In SDSF we use XDC, is there something similar in $AVRS?  I GOOGLED $AVRS however I didn't see anything helpful.   Thanks. -- For

Re: SAVING OUTPUT WHEN IN $AVRS

2012-06-21 Thread willie bunter
William,   I downloaded a copy of the doc.  Now the fun part is to find all the STEPLIBS and other dsn  names.  Thanks for your suggestion. From: Carroll, William carro...@grangeinsurance.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:05:21 AM

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Peter Relson
The reason is that we sometimes we get a deadly embrace where two SMFDUMP issue those ENQs and then while the system is doing its 'I SMF' things, it still scans the DASD despite that we do not record SMF type 19. In the end I need to cancel one of those SMF jobs, let the other run and retry

Re: VTAM Cross Domain Resources - Help!

2012-06-21 Thread Matt Gourley
On 6/20/2012 19:20, Chris Mason wrote: Matt Is there someone who can help me troubleshoot this? To answer your question, precisely as posed, is probably yes. Now let's see whether this particular someone can answer the plea contained in the Subject line which would correspond to the

Re: difference between JZOS Launcher and COZBATCH Launcher

2012-06-21 Thread McKown, John
JZOS is designed to run Java programs in batch. Using PROC=EXJZOSVM to set up the JVM and specify the Java class or jar file to run. Co:Z Batch is used to run z/OS UNIX programs (and scripts). It is conceptually similar to running TSO in batch, which issues TSO commands from SYSTSIN and output

Re: Calling idcams

2012-06-21 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2012-06-20 17:13, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gord Tomlin Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Calling idcams One could argue that creating LE

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Relson wrote: You wrote about your SMFDUMP program. What is that? The one provided by z/OS does not use that ENQ. The one as supplied by IBM. See copyright statement: MODULE NAME = SMFDUMP DESCRIPTIVE NAME =

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:54:22 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: You wrote about your SMFDUMP program. What is that? The one provided by z/OS does not use that ENQ. I think the sample programs SMFDUMP and IEFU29 shipped with OS/390 (and earlier) used that ENQ. SMFDUMP is not shipped with z/OS, but

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:17:33 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Peter Relson wrote: ... the ENQ you show is a SYSTEM level ENQ, not a SYSTEMS level ENQ. Indeed, from source this: ENQ (SMFQNAME,SMFRNAME,E,,SYSTEM) ... holding of this ENQ on one LPAR will have no effect on another LPAR.

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Doug Henry
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 04:25:48 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: I also don't use RESERVEs. I forgot to mention that I get a lot of IOS071I ,**,SMS, START PENDING messages during a switch. So, after my nightly jobs, I try to dump/clear all my SMF datasets

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Doug Henry wrote: This sounds to me like you are collecting SMF type 19 records. If this is the case I would recommend not doing this. D SMF,O on any LPAR show this: SUBSYS(OMVS,NOTYPE(14,15,19,34:35,40,42,99)) -- PARMLIB SUBSYS(TSO,NOTYPE(14,15,19,40,42,99)) -- SYS

Re: SMF volume - follow-up

2012-06-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:03:07 +, Campbell Jay james.l.campb...@irs.gov wrote: The solution in this case was stopping type 100 - 102 collection. Changing the Workload Management Class of the copy job to STCHI. The DUMPXY process caught up with itself in about 20 minutes. My SMFDUMP jobs are

Re: convert Decimal to bytes

2012-06-21 Thread Scott Ford
Elardus, Amen my friend, hard help when can't see what the are trying to do Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:38 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Art aa...@usa.net wrote: Hi would anyone know of a calculator and/or formal via rexx that I

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Bill Fairchild
The behavior of your systems that you described sounds as if you have a global enqueue that is systems-wide rather than an enqueue that should only affect one system. The source code snippet you posted shows what looks correct for a local enqueue (within one system) rather than a global

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 04:25:48 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: I'm not sure exactly. Maybe to keep 2 of them start are started at the same time from causing a problem since nothing else uses that qname/rname. This is what I also guessed.

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Tom Marchant wrote: Not the SYSTEM level ENQ that you have shown, unless you have added IPOSMF01 to the INCLude list in GRSRNKxx. It is not there in GRSRNLxx (or GRSRNKxx which you wrote... ;-D ). So, the problem is not a deadly embrace, but delays in processing. I think you need to

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:54:22 -0400, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: The reason is that we sometimes we get a deadly embrace where two SMFDUMP issue those ENQs and then while the system is doing its 'I SMF' things, it still scans the DASD despite that we do not record SMF type 19. In the

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Staller, Allan
IFASMFDP or IFASMFDL SNIP Thanks to all. I'm beginning to wonder if the SMFDUMP program may be corrupt and need to be re-assembled from scratch. Or tryout file 686 from cbttape.org. /SNIP -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mark Zelden wrote: What do you mean you don't use reserves? You have commented them out in the code, or your IODF/HCD isn't coded for shared DASD thus not issuing the reserves? Hmmm, interesting. I will have a talk with my HCD folks... If you are seeing the start pendings, it looks like you

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:59:13 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: What do you mean you don't use reserves? You have commented them out in the code, or your IODF/HCD isn't coded for shared DASD thus not issuing the reserves? Hmmm, interesting. I

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mark Zelden wrote: As far as I can tell from one of your posts, I am using the same code you do. I do asm/lnk with other usermods / exits for each OS upgrade. These are the only changes I have, and the last change was in 2000 (discussed on this list also IIRC): All the sources I have, all

Re: SAVING OUTPUT WHEN IN $AVRS

2012-06-21 Thread Silvio Camplani
From the online interface enter option O (ODS), on the next panel fill in the dataset name to contain the output. Regards, Silvio Camplani zSeries Sr. Analyst, Systems Support Bombardier On Thu, Jun 21, 2012, at 04:02 AM, willie bunter wrote: Good Day To All,   Could anybody tell me how I

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:20:56 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: As far as I can tell from one of your posts, I am using the same code you do. I do asm/lnk with other usermods / exits for each OS upgrade. These are the only changes I have,

Re: VTAM Cross Domain Resources - Help!

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Mason
Matt As I suspected: For example, have you just created the LPAR-B system as a clone with what are assumed to be minimal required changes of the LPAR-A system? It appears you have copied the APPL statement with name TCOM from system LPAR-A to system LPAR-B without paying attention to the

Re: VTAM Cross Domain Resources - Help!

2012-06-21 Thread Robert Harrison
Matt, I hope that I can help you. We have VPS, VPS/PCL, and VPS/TCPIP. We do not have VPS/DRS. What has caught my eye is your statement from LPAR-B, via CDRM06. From SC31-8791-10 z/OS V1R12.0 Comm Svr: IP and SNA Codes manual: snip VTAM hint: Sense code 0888000n might be issued when an

Re: COBOL 3.4 and LE Considerations questions

2012-06-21 Thread Rick Arellanes
LE does support downward compatibility when using OS/390 2.10 and later, but you must follow the giudelines and restrictions listed in the LE Programming Guide in section 1.2.2 Downward compatibility considerations found here:

Co:Z SPTF OMVS segment duplicate

2012-06-21 Thread Mark Steely
I have several ID's that share the same UID. Some times the wrong ID gets used and the default home directory does not contain a RSA key. Is there a way to pass which or where to look for the RSA key within STDIN. Here is a sample of STDIN: remoteuser=ossbissh server=xsabcl01.abccorp.com

Re: convert Decimal to bytes

2012-06-21 Thread zMan
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Art aa...@usa.net wrote: Hi would anyone know of a calculator and/or formal via rexx that I could use/setup to convert decimal to bytes. I would like to multiply x (decimal) by 80 and add an extra 80 bytes. Yes to the question (even if it doesn't have a

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:45:05 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: IOS431I DEVICE 6F85 RESERVED TO CPU=.,LPAR ID=04 205 SYSTEM= If it is not SMFDUMP that is issuing the reserve, who is? -- Tom Marchant -- For

Re: Co:Z SPTF OMVS segment duplicate

2012-06-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:41:59 -0500, Mark Steely wrote: I have several ID's that share the same UID. Don't do that. Would different UIDs and a common HOME directory work for you? Would separate home directories and symlinks to a project/group directory, group-writable work? Some times the

Re: Co:Z SPTF OMVS segment duplicate

2012-06-21 Thread Kirk Wolf
Mark, Co:Z SFTP uses IBM Ported Tools OpenSSH for its ssh connection. The problem that you are seeing is because Ported Tools ssh looks up the home directory via UID number. (in Co:Z SFTP, we are more careful in how we look up the home directory). Keys, specifically the default ~/.ssh/id_rsa key

Re: Vm ZLinux VSWITCH question

2012-06-21 Thread Ron MacRae
Jerry, You pointed me at ib...@listserv.uark.edu. I'd already subscribed to this as an RSS feed in Google reader. That's my prefered method of seeing all the detail when I want to rather than getting interrupted by emails all the time. I use the same process for IBM-MAIN and several

Re: convert Decimal to bytes

2012-06-21 Thread Charles Mills
Converting decimal to bytes is trivial. Locate the first 'd' and replace with 'byt'. Locate the string 'cimal' and replace with 's'. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:47 AM

Re: System AS vs a STC as?

2012-06-21 Thread scott
On 06/21/2012 02:38 AM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2012-06-20 22:50, scott pisze: What is the difference between a System Address Space vs a Started Task Address Space? I think (and could be wrong) that the names are not precisely defined. Example of system AS can be XCFAS or PCAUTH or CATALOG.

Re: dfsort E15 exit

2012-06-21 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Sri Hari Kolusu DFSORT Development IBM Corporation Email: skol...@us.ibm.com Phone: 408-463-2403 Tie Line 543-2403 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 06/20/2012 08:20:40 PM: From: Ying YongJie yingyong...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, Date: 06/20/2012

SMS processing setup for secondary extents

2012-06-21 Thread Bill Ashton
Hi again, friends! I have a question that should be simple to answer - I hope - and did not want to try this and risk losing data until I asked. I am trying to roll up multiple GDG files created every day into a single daily file. The files can be either very small or quite large, and so they

Re: SMS processing setup for secondary extents

2012-06-21 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Sure, that's what the volume count is for. Make sure you do specify a secondary allocation. Kees. Bill Ashton bill00ash...@gmail.com wrote in message news:captsokxza0k3-qyx9pcgf4adhslsrlls_k0jkzqpzfku3p3...@mail.gmail.com ... Hi again, friends! I have a question that should be simple to

Re: convert Decimal to bytes

2012-06-21 Thread John Gilmore
I come very late to this thread, but my conjecture is that the OP's problem is a terminological one. I think he wants to be able to convert display, character-string representations like '202' of decimal numbers into their internal, storage representations. He does need to tell us what

Re: SMS processing setup for secondary extents

2012-06-21 Thread David Betten
I personally prefer using a volume count of 1 but then setting Space Constraint Relief to YES with a dynamic volume count. That way my small files are allocated with 1 volume and additional volumes are only allocated if needed. Have a nice day, Dave Betten DFSORT Development, Performance Lead

Re: SMS processing setup for secondary extents

2012-06-21 Thread Joel C. Ewing
And better yet, also use a DATACLAS with the Extended attribute so you are not constrained to only 16 extents per volume. With Space Constraint Relief. Extended attribute, and Dynamic Volume Count, both primary and secondary allocations will use as many extents and volumes as necessary to get

Re: System AS vs a STC as?

2012-06-21 Thread Skip Robinson
One last time. As 'new' message rather than reply. Looks like I got hit by the ghost of Christmas alien. I'll try one more time. One big distinction of true 'system STCs' is the ability to start a task using this proc: //IEESYSAS PROC PROG=IEFBR14 //IEFPROC EXEC PGM=PROG //* THE

Re: Why is GRS ENQ needed in SMFDUMP program?

2012-06-21 Thread Andy Wood
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:45:05 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: . . . Not the SYSTEM level ENQ that you have shown, unless you have added IPOSMF01 to the INCLude list in GRSRNKxx. It is not there in GRSRNLxx (or GRSRNKxx which you wrote... ;-D ). Any GRS exits?

Re: SMS processing setup for secondary extents

2012-06-21 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 06/21/2012 06:42 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: From: Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org And better yet, also use a DATACLAS with the Extended attribute so you are not constrained to only 16 extents per volume. With Space Constraint Relief. Extended attribute, and Dynamic Volume Count, both primary

Re: SMS processing setup for secondary extents

2012-06-21 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 06/21/2012 07:47 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: On 06/21/2012 06:42 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: From: Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org And better yet, also use a DATACLAS with the Extended attribute so you are not constrained to only 16 extents per volume. With Space Constraint Relief. Extended

Away friday, back monday

2012-06-21 Thread John Stevenson
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