Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-26 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-04-26 03:43, zMan pisze: I've heard rumors that the names are often not determined until shortly before release anyway, after some not-so-fun marketing meetings... Does it really matter? Would IBM sell any more piece of EC12 if they had chosen more sexy name? Was z196 a flop

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-26 Thread Martin Packer
Without meaning to be defensive z196 a flop? I've encountered tons of them. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog:

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-26 Thread Barry Merrill
Since it's the weekend: in Ireland, license plates are assigned to a car and never change when ownership changes, and the license numbers have always been YY-COUNTY-NUMBER, where YY is the year of the car's manufacture. Our 2008 Ford plate is 08-CE-4088 for County Clare. In anticipation of

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-26 Thread zMan
That's interesting .Why did they do the 131/132 thing, though? If they didn't run out in other years, why did they suddenly feel the need to double the address space? Or were they already on the verge of running out, in which case the alleged reason might be an urban legend? On Sat, Apr 26, 2014

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-26 Thread John Gilmore
zMan's question is a good one, but the reversion to just 14 for the year 2014 does add credence to the notion that superstition was the rationale for the one-off 2013 scheme. The distinction that needs to be remembered is that in Eire, Italy and a number of other European countries these plates

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-26 Thread Barry Merrill
No urban legend - the plan was publicized well in advance of 2013 that there would be no year 13 plates issued, period. There was no shortage of numbers in years before or after 13. Car dealers did complain that their sales were way down in June, as buyers then wanted the 132 as a sign of a

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-26 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
aledlhug...@aol.com (Aled Hughes) writes: Back in the early '80s, I was told that IBM's Model Range for the 3083 - E, B and J - used the initial letter of the Product Managers' last names for the models. Anyone know if this was true? some 3083 topic drift this account has 3081 ( 3033) using

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-26 Thread Scott Ford
Werent they developed at La Gaude ? I was there in the 90s Regards, Scott From: Anne Lynn Wheeler Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎April‎ ‎26‎, ‎2014 ‎2‎:‎34‎ ‎PM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List aledlhug...@aol.com (Aled Hughes) writes: Back in the early '80s, I was told that IBM's Model

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-26 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
scott_j_f...@yahoo.com (Scott Ford) writes: Werent they developed at La Gaude ? I was there in the 90s re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.htm#49 Beyond the EC12 4341 was being done in Endicott, maybe thinking about (slower) 4331 that was being done in Europe (Boeblingen) on 4361 (4331