ServerPac download reports CSRF attack

2018-01-12 Thread Barbara Nitz
I took a chance (since a colleague had set up internet access directly from the host) and ordered z/OS 2.3 via ShopZ as downloadable from internet. The only browser I can use is Chrome, and I cannot change anything in the settings (corporate mandate). IE will not even let me log in to ShopZ.

Re: ServerPac download reports CSRF attack

2018-01-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Barbara, I get the "Error: CSRF attack detected" frequently if I am doing a page refresh too quickly or trying to navigate backwards and it doesn't want to let me do it. I end up re-driving the url again and all is well. All this on FireFox. You might try Lvl2 support. Here is one person that

Re: ServerPac download reports CSRF attack

2018-01-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Barbara, You are most welcome, I am glad you got it to work! :-) Good luck with the ServerPac. I'll probably be there in a few weeks or so, if manager approves. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz

Re: ServerPac download reports CSRF attack

2018-01-12 Thread Barbara Nitz
>I get the "Error: CSRF attack detected" frequently if I am doing a page >refresh too quickly or trying to navigate backwards and it doesn't want to let >me do it. I end up >re-driving the url again and all is well. All this on FireFox. > >You might try Lvl2 support. Here is one person that has

Re: AW: Re: Number of Cylinders per Volume

2018-01-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 01:32:07 +0100, R.S. wrote: >BTW: an "awful waste of storage" is MCU on EAS which is 21 cyl. (315 >trk). It is much more than 4kB and more than 4MB. Not such a big deal for very large data sets, which are the most appropriate ones to go into the cylinder-managed space. When

Re: C code to get running job name

2018-01-12 Thread Peter Relson
FWIW, If I want to get the jobname, I use ASSBJBNI (ASSBJBNS if this is a started task). If ASSBJBNI first byte is not x'00' then use ASSBJBNI else use ASSBJBNS PSAAOLD -> ASCBASSB -> ASSB. This has been available for going on 25 years. And prior to that (and you can still use this if

System z and Meltdown and Spectre - official IBM statement?

2018-01-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Lionel Dyck wrote: >Is there an official statement from IBM regarding Meltdown and Spectre on >System z (or is it System Z)? It's "IBM Z" now. Was "System z", then "z Systems", with a side-trip into "zEnterprise" simultaneously. Because, you know, rebranding things is more worthwhile than

Cobol call in SOAP/XML

2018-01-12 Thread Dazzo, Matt
We have a legacy cobol program that our developers would like to modify and make it participate as a client of web services (a method call in SOAP/XML) by using the z/OS Client Web Enablement Toolkit. I'm wondering if someone could share a sample of cobol code that uses this technology? The

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Barkow, Eileen
https://www.javatpoint.com/features-of-java here is a quote from the java tutorial in the above url comparing java to C. I originally saw a quote in a Lynda.com tutorial (which I no longer have access to) that also stated Java to be a simplification of C. According to Sun, Java language is

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Bill Wilkie
I remember reading a story about a company looking to hire a C/C++ programmer and found someone with years of experience. And when they showed him the program, they hired him to change, he looked at it and said "What's this?" Bill From: IBM Mainframe

Re: FMHLEN Size Parameter

2018-01-12 Thread Steve Smith
IMHO, there's no reason for the secrecy for this facility. But, not my call. The messages can and are often displayed "publicly", so I guess it makes sense to document them publicly. But really, that message can hardly have any more explanation added to it. I should do so well (typically, I'd

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 01/12/2018 07:56 AM, John McKown wrote: > This is being prompted by the recent thread about getting the name of the > running job in C. These are just some random questions. > > First, is C becoming more popular on z/OS? What for? I.e. batch programs, > UNIX commands, CICS transactions, Db2

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Barkow, Eileen
I am quoting from a book or manual or self study course I read - Java was developed to be a simplification of C. I will try to find this quote if I can. As for learning C, I am still trying to study for the idiotic Java certification exam, where you have to pay $400 to predict what the

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread esst...@juno.com
>From my perspective, I can't say that C is picking up on the mainframe. >From My personal observation, I don't see C programmers doing maintenance. Every installation that had JAVA and/or C, the "programmer" always wanted to re-write the program, they were unable to read existing source code and

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-01-12 10:28, Bill Wilkie wrote: I remember reading a story about a company looking to hire a C/C++ programmer and found someone with years of experience. And when they showed him the program, they hired him to change, he looked at it and said "What's this?" Was "What's this?" a

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Barkow, Eileen
C is a REALLY-REALLY hard language to learn (at least I am finding it to be so). Actually, I am only trying to use C without really learning it which makes it even more difficult. Java was created in order to be a simplification of C - But of course the problem with Java on z/os is that it runs

Re: C code to get running job name

2018-01-12 Thread Steve Smith
It took me a while to discern the difference between ASSBJBNx and ASCBJBNx. I initially thought you were repeating yourself :-). Yet another way to skin this cat is to go from ASSBJSAB -> JSABJBNM. The JSAB also has the JOB ID (among other things, of course). sas On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 7:49

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jan 12, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Barkow, Eileen wrote: > > I am quoting from a book or manual or self study course I read - Java was > developed to be a simplification of C. > I will try to find this quote if I can. That was either a typo for C++ or the author didn’t know

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Charles Mills
Let me weigh in on these topics. I am a very experienced HLASM product developer who switched his primary language to C++ about ten years ago. First, how many end-user customers are undertaking the development of totally new applications? If you are fixing, enhancing or extending an application

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Charles Mills
C++ is technically not quite a proper superset of C. For example, C allows implicit int declarations and C++ does not. But admittedly, a quibble. C++ is for all practical purposes a superset of C. I have inside information on C# that it is probably okay if not legal to share. C# started life

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Am 12.01.2018 um 20:42 schrieb Seymour J Metz: I disagree; C is not remotely like assembly language, and the pre-processor is pathetic compared to any other macro facility that I have seen. The confusion between pointers and arrays and the zero-delimited strings are booby traps for the

Re: IBM ZD

2018-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
My understand is that it is neither licensed nor supported for production work. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jousma, David

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
I disagree; C is not remotely like assembly language, and the pre-processor is pathetic compared to any other macro facility that I have seen. The confusion between pointers and arrays and the zero-delimited strings are booby traps for the unwary. As to C++, it provides classes that are not

Re: IBM ZD

2018-01-12 Thread Phil Smith
David Jousma wrote: >If you are not aware, this is z/OS running on x86 for dev/test work. Anyone >doing this in the real world? We've got architects in the corporation that >head about this, and want to discuss it. I just don't know enough about it >to know if it's a big deal, or a

IEFA111I at IPL Time for z/OS V2.3

2018-01-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
Any one run across this and tell me what may need to be corrected? IEFA111I jobname IS USING THE FOLLOWING JOB RELATED SETTINGS: GDGBIAS = gdgbiasv Also included SWA=BELOW in the message. I do not have the complete text available, but that is the basic overview This message describes

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Steve Smith
Yeah, what Charles Mills said :-). He's a lot less lazy than me when it comes to writing stuff out. C++ *is* a superset of C, and it does provide several useful enhancements (e.g. new/delete vs. malloc/free), but that's not what it was invented for. It was invented to allow object-oriented

Re: C code to get running job name

2018-01-12 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/12/2018 4:49 AM, Peter Relson wrote: If ASSBJBNI first byte is not x'00' then use ASSBJBNI else use ASSBJBNS This is the first I've heard of the "first byte test" trick. All of our code does this (or something very similar): |   LLGT  R14,PSAAOLD |   LLGT  R14,ASCBJBNI |   IF

IBM ZD

2018-01-12 Thread Jousma, David
If you are not aware, this is z/OS running on x86 for dev/test work. Anyone doing this in the real world? We've got architects in the corporation that head about this, and want to discuss it. I just don't know enough about it to know if it's a big deal, or a breadbox with regards to

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
No answer to your questions, just another question. How many z/OS or z/VM sites are using GCC? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John McKown

Re: JCL and PassPhrases?

2018-01-12 Thread John Jack
I have the same issue. We're just going to passphrase and I got it to work on TSO, FTP,OMVS and someone else is trying to get it to work with CICS. I can't get it work in batch, ie on the JOB card. I saw something that said that you have to enclose the passphrase in apostrophes which is ugly

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread David Crayford
On 13/01/2018 3:24 AM, Charles Mills wrote: C# started life inside MS as Visual Java. Sun's lawyers told MS no, you either Java our way or not at all. So MS re-wrote Visual Java into C#. C# is very Java-like and by extension C++-like, but without any non-OO possibilities C# started out

AW: Re: CICS 5.3 and transaction isolation questions

2018-01-12 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Got my answer from the CICS list. I'm not subscribed to the CICS list, yet the answer interests me (and maybe others on this list). Do you mind posting it here so it will be in the archive? -- Peter Hunkeler -- For

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Charles Mills
LOL. All I know is that sometimes due to a coding error I get the error message "error C4430: missing type specifier - int assumed. Note: C++ does not support default-int" I jumped to the natural conclusion. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 1/12/2018 3:05 PM, Gord Tomlin wrote: To really "B Sharp", call it "C Sharp" like the folks at Microsoft. B Sharp is C :) -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread David Crayford
On 13/01/2018 4:10 AM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: Am 12.01.2018 um 20:42 schrieb Seymour J Metz: I disagree; C is not remotely like assembly language, and the pre-processor is pathetic compared to any other macro facility that I have seen. The confusion between pointers and arrays and the

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread David Crayford
On 12/01/2018 10:51 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: For a new z/OS installation, getting  the IBM C compiler might not have been a big deal.  For a large non-C, existing z/OS installation, IBM compiler pricing issues in the past were always a powerful dis-incentive to add anything that required the C

AW: Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>https://www.javatpoint.com/features-of-java Everything written on any web page is true, or what? C is procedural programming language and as such it can be compared to COBOL, PL/1, Pascal, etc. But comparing a procedural language to an object oriented language just makes no sense to me.

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-01-12 13:58, Steve Smith wrote: I don't know much about C# (call it "see pound" to impress people*) To really "B Sharp", call it "C Sharp" like the folks at Microsoft. ;) -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905)

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Steve Beaver
The mainframe uses Metal C or Dingus C so you will have to do some research -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gord Tomlin Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: curious:

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Charles Mills
> memory leaks are omnipresent with C++ I disagree. I will wager there are *zero* memory leaks in my code, other than a couple of disaster startup errors where I intentionally bail out prematurely. I do my alpha development on MS Visual Studio. If I run a test and there are any memory leaks,

Re: C code to get running job name

2018-01-12 Thread Steve Smith
Gotcha! There's a subtle difference between BUTTBJBNI and ASCBJNI. The former is defined as a 'D' (bogusly), and contains the actual jobname. The latter points to the jobname, possibly to the former, but who knows. You can't do a 1-byte test on that address, only on the character field. sas

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread Charles Mills
My post below brings up one of the HUGE advantages of C++ and C: there are a ton of resources available on the Web. If I Google I get 6,400,000 hits. If I Google I get 5,380 hits. Google hits are not the whole story, but you get my point. With HLASM if you hit a wall you have this

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread retired mainframer
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:24 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS. > > C++ is technically not quite a

Re: C code to get running job name

2018-01-12 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-01-12 15:37, Steve Smith wrote: Gotcha! There's a subtle difference between BUTTBJBNI and ASCBJNI. The former is defined as a 'D' (bogusly), and contains the actual jobname. The latter points to the jobname, possibly to the former, but who knows. You can't do a 1-byte test on that

Re: System z and Meltdown and Spectre - official IBM statement?

2018-01-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2018-01-12 o 07:23, Timothy Sipples pisze: Please follow the standard operating procedures that have been in place for years. If you haven't done so yet, here they are: 1. Visit here: https://www.ibm.com/it-infrastructure/z/capabilities/system-integrity 2. Scroll down to "IBM Security

Re: FMHLEN Size Parameter

2018-01-12 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jan 11, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > > Message is documented publicly: > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieam900/m012363.htm > > > Charles > Charles, This sounds like the old CIA reply about If I tell you I got to

Re: AW: Re: Number of Cylinders per Volume

2018-01-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2018-01-12 o 13:15, Tom Marchant pisze: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 01:32:07 +0100, R.S. wrote: BTW: an "awful waste of storage" is MCU on EAS which is 21 cyl. (315 trk). It is much more than 4kB and more than 4MB. Not such a big deal for very large data sets, which are the most appropriate

curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-12 Thread John McKown
This is being prompted by the recent thread about getting the name of the running job in C. These are just some random questions. First, is C becoming more popular on z/OS? What for? I.e. batch programs, UNIX commands, CICS transactions, Db2 applications, ... ? Given that C, in other *IX