Am I
1) at home
2) at the office
3) either
4) both
"both" would suggest that my home is my office.
Oh wait it is :)
But yes, I agree with Rex
On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 6:01 AM, Bill Wilkie wrote:
> The doc says online, offline and both earlier in the doc.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On
It seems context is a player in the semantics portion of the topic.
The request is for the type of LIST.
1) You can create a list of volumes that are ONLINE.
2) You can create a list of volumes that are NOT ONLINE/OFFLINE.
3.a) You can create a list of volumes that are either ONLINE or NOT
ONLINE
Has anyone ever seen something like this before? Two started tasks {both
DB2 address spaces] in the same service class and yet have different
dispatching priorities? This screen capture shows the essential details.
Any thoughts?
Adam
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> I somewhat lean toward "NOT ONLINE" over OFFLINE for those PENDING
> states.
Pending offline volumes are still online. So NOT ONLINE *is* OFFLINE.
Kees.
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Steve Horein
> Sent: 05
> Near as I can tell from the information I getting (from Symantec and others),
> it's not going to get better anytime soon.
> From what I've heard, some folks are advocating a 90-day certificate renewal.
> While I don't have an issue with that, it
> may make automation more important for larger
Gerhard Adam wrote:
>Has anyone ever seen something like this before? Two started tasks {both DB2
>address spaces] in the same service class and yet have different dispatching
>priorities? This screen capture shows the essential details.
What screen print? I only see white letters on a whi
W dniu 2018-04-04 o 20:11, Ward, Mike S pisze:
No not a remote z/OS, but a distributed system. I.E. Intel and such.
Off topic: People tend to say "distributed systems" and "intel systems",
while we talk about Windows and Linux/Unix.
IMHO it's more appropriate to use LUW - Linux, Unix Windows.
Why shouldn't they? WLM manages Goals and uses all resources, including DPTRY,
to realize them.
I see this now:
Jobname SrvClass CUR
PTY
MZCMT01A BAT_PJ220
COECM01L BAT_PJ224
MZFFB03B BAT_PJ214
DBP1DBM1 DB2P_CTL 246
DBP1DIST DB2P_CTL 246
DB2PSPU1
Possible bug in reporting tool? (SDSF, RMF, 3rd Party).
Never heard of this, however, if WLM CICS Transaction Management is involved, I
can see where it might happen.
Also, DB2 is smart enough to alter DP's if it thinks it needs to.
I would ask IBM for an explanation.
Hopefully you are recording
Agreed, and further to that point...
... Does the WLM Policy include Using / Delay for I/O samples?
In my extensive experience if so
1) The Velocity achieved is normally very high. (Indicates a protective
goal of 70% or higher, generally. Imp 1 BTW.)
2) The samples are dominated by Using I/O.
Yes, sorry. For some reason the paste didn't work.
Basically it simply shows two tasks in the same service class with different
dispatching priorities. One has a priority of F6 and the other is F0.
Adam
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Workload manager doesn't manage individual address spaces within a service
class. That wouldn't make any sense.
That's why my question. After all, if the service class has varying
dispatching priorities, then how can the goal of the service class be assessed
when individual units of work have
Why shouldn't they? WLM manages Goals and uses all resources, including DPTRY,
to realize them.
I see this now:
WLM manages the Service Class, not the task.
However, I just thought of a possible reason for the OP.
Service Class Periods? Multiple periods in a given service class can possibly
h
DB2 DOESN'T alter DPs. So far I see no cause to panic - so long as goals
are being met. (And that they are the right goals.)
Cheers, Martin
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 06:14:49 -0700, Gerhard Adam wrote:
>Workload manager doesn't manage individual address spaces within
>a service class. That wouldn't make any sense.
>
>That's why my question. After all, if the service class has varying
>dispatching priorities, then how can the goal of the
Depends on the meaning of 'manage'.
Individual units of work don't have a goal, but realizing a Service Class's
Goal can only be done by managing the attributes of the individual tasks in the
Service Class.
As to the suggestion of Service Class Periods: the DB2 Service Classes have
only 1 Perio
These address spaces look like stored procedure address spaces and they are
likely marked as a server . Their goals would be managed under the DDF
subsystem in WLM classification rules and would depend on what srvclasses are
this ASID is servicing.
Gabe
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Correct.
Kees.
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> Behalf Of Gabriel Tully
> Sent: 05 April, 2018 15:29
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority
>
> These address spaces look like stored proc
Here is my understanding of WLM and dispatching priorities.
Dispatching priorities work the same way prior to WLM. If Service class is WLM
velocity, then the dispatching priority is a range, just like prior to WLM.
However, I don't remember which way SRM adjusts the DP. SRM would adjust DP
u
Thanks, I'm looking at the Rocket Software products. They seem to be more what
I was looking for.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 11:55 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 21:20:48 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>I guess you would call that "issuing a certificate."
>
>Certificates -- the entire certificate -- are signed. They include a public
>key.
>
I believe so but, answering Andrew's question, the signature on messages he
sends
is encrypted us
On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 13:37:43 +, Edgington, Jerry wrote:
>Dispatching priorities work the same way prior to WLM. If Service class is
>WLM velocity, then the dispatching priority is a range, just like prior to
>WLM.
>However, I don't remember which way SRM adjusts the DP. SRM would
>adjust
There is also DIST and DBM1 in there. The action will be heavily geared
towards DBM1. (DIST has work in it mostly on Independent Enclaves so
relatively little of the work therein is at the address space's DP.)
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer
zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troublesh
While multiple periods certainly makes sense, the idea that different
dispatching priorities exist within a single period service class doesn't.
Workload manager adjusts the dispatching priority of an entire service class,
both in terms of "unbunching" and in the algorithms used to assess the go
I don't see the relevance of enclaves or anything else in this. It is the
service class period that matters.
So, if I assigned DB2, enclaves, TSO, and batch to the same service class,
they should still all have the same dispatching priority. Workload Manager
doesn't care what type of work is in
WLM uses the configuration to determine what SRVCLASS a specific piece of work
should be assigned upon initial job entry. After that, WLM will recommend to
SRM how to adjust the dispatching priorities, based on information provided in
WLM definitions.
WLM doesn't make changes to dispatching
I beg to differ, but do you have documentation that supports what you say? I
have looked at a lot of type 99 records and WLM most certainly assigns the DP.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 5, 2018, at 8:44 AM, Edgington, Jerry
> wrote:
>
> WLM uses the configuration to determine what SRVCLASS a
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaw200/iea3w201112.htm
Dispatching Priority
SRM defines dispatching priority for service class periods. All address spaces
in a service class period have the same base dispatching priority. Multiple
service class per
SRM is a component of the system control program. It determines which address
spaces, of all active address spaces, should be given access to system
resources and the rate at which each address space is allowed to consume these
resources.
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I've been asked off-list to elaborate on my post. Truth is I have nothing else
to contribute. Health check ZOSMIGV2R3_NEXT_VSM_USERKEYCOMM is installed by the
APAR but not activated. Odd if you ask me. So I activated it just on our
sandbox sysplex. *Immediately* got this:
* High Severity Except
Since it's a sandbox, set VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO), IPL, and see what crashes!
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 11:10 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: UA94606
I'
Your documentation doesn't say what you say it does. It explicitly
indicates that service class periods are associated with a dispatching
priority and does not say anything about differences within a service class.
In short, there is nothing to indicate that individual address spaces would
be subj
On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 08:37:20 -0700, Gerhard Adam wrote:
>I don't see the relevance of enclaves or anything else in this. It is the
>service class period that matters.
That is only one factor. Transaction response time goals are another factor.
>
>So, if I assigned DB2, enclaves, TSO, and batch to
Good advice for the sandbox. However, identifying the offender is only the
first step. Fixing the problem may turn out to be a long and painful journey
through the whole enterprise.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manag
Understood!
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Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 11:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: UA94606
Good advice for the sandbox. However, identifying the offender is on
On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:20:21 +, Allan Staller wrote:
>Since it's a sandbox, set VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO), IPL, and see what crashes!
IPL may not be necessary. You can use SET DIAG.
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Agreed. IPL if in doubt.
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Of Tom Marchant
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 12:01 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: UA94606
On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:20:21 +, Allan Staller wrote:
>S
I don't understand what you're trying to say. Enclaves are certainly assigned
to service classes and can be reset or even quiesced. From the ENC display in
SDSF
NAMESSType StatusSrvClass Per
240002 STCINACTIVE SYSSTC 1
4C000C STCACTIVE SRV
There is information in OA53355 about using SLIP to find the problems
nondisruptively. For example,
SLIP SET,IF,A=TRACE,ID=UCSA,NUCEP=(IGVVSMG2,0,1),END
Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp.
Poughkeepsie NY
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on
04/05/2018 12:0
My dispute about the dispatching priorities comes from the Type 99 subtype 1
records.I've included the data from a report that shows that the
dispatching priority changes [including the projected changes afterwards]
are all based on the entire service class. In this case, it clearly shows
that
z/OS V2R3 migration manual (GA32-0089-30) lists some SLIPs to help check usage.
David
On Thursday, April 5, 2018 Allan Staller wrote:
Agreed. IPL if in doubt.
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Sent: Thu
On 4/5/2018 12:59 PM, Tom Marchant wrote:
On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:20:21 +, Allan Staller wrote:
Since it's a sandbox, set VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO), IPL, and see what crashes!
IPL may not be necessary. You can use SET DIAG.
I already have VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO). This health check fires a
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
Good advice for the sandbox. However, identifying the offender is only the
first step. Fixing the problem may turn out to be a long and painful journey
through the whole enterprise.
Well, you might have more than one offender. Also, one or more
offenders might not
A DB2 WLM Stored Procedures server address space might well show up as
being in a service class. However, it - with its peers - supports a
Service Class / Application Environment combination with a queue of work.
The queue of work is EXCLUSIVELY that with the Service Class and also the
Applica
We have VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO)
And yet when we run MXG to look at SMF 30 for that information we see many with
a value of '80' but also some with 'A0' and we're not sure what that means.
What will happen with 2.3? Will this diag setting disappear as it becomes
hardened as NO?
What will offen
Can you provide a download link.
IBM Pub Center doesn’nt have it.
z/OS 2.3 Internet library shows it, but gets page not found when attempting to
download.
KC has all the info, but is not suitable for offline perusal.
TIA,
From: David Purdy [mailto:dpurd...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018
On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 12:01:00 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
>IPL may not be necessary. You can use SET DIAG.
Of course, that won't catch an address space that allocates user key CSA
before the DIAG trap was set. e.g. address spaces started at IPL time.
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Never mid. I found it.
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Of Allan Staller
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 1:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: UA94606
Can you provide a download link.
IBM Pub Center doesn’nt have
URL please :-)
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Of Allan
On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 18:36:22 +, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote:
>What will happen with 2.3? Will this diag setting disappear as it becomes
>hardened as NO?
It doesn't change with 2.3, but after 2.3.
>What will offenders encounter - some kind of x78 or 0C4 or something else?
The Init and Tunin
https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zOSV2R3Library?OpenDocument
Expand the list for SYSTEM LEVEL
About 2/3's down the list it will be there.
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Thank you
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Of Allan Stal
x'A0' means that someone created a user key CADS (Common Area
Data Space, aka SCOPE=COMMON Data Space).
Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp.
Poughkeepsie NY
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on
04/05/2018 02:36:22 PM:
> From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)"
> To: I
Thank you
Since we have the DIAG set to NO is there a reason to keep the Health Check
enabled?
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From: IB
I just clipped AR2338 - AR233F and there seems to be an immediate problem. The
new volumes(AR2338-AR233F) show a large dataset using 983040 tracks, Not sure
why?
Data Set Name . . . . : FDRABR.VAR2330 (PREVIOUSLY DEFINED)
Data Set Name . . . . : FDRABR.VAR2338
Thanks. That helps. However, doesn't that now suggest that the monitor's
display is actually wrong? In other words, I would expect that if a monitor
was going to display a dispatching priority, it would also display the
service class with which it was associated. It would be erroneous to
repor
On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 19:16:56 +, Watkins, Philip S. wrote:
>I just clipped AR2338 - AR233F and there seems to be an immediate problem.
>The new volumes(AR2338-AR233F) show a large dataset using 983040 tracks, Not
>sure why?
Show us the job that you used to clip the volumes.
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VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO)
only prevents obtaining user key CSA.
It does not prevent creating a user key CADS, or using CHANGKEY
to change the key of subpool 247 or 248 (DREF SQA) storage to
user key.
The health check and the new SMF 30 field report all three of those
types of securi
>I already have VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO). This health check fires anyway.
> Apparently there are other ways of getting user key storage, not just
>in CSA. Good of IBM to tell us all to write our own code to traverse
>SMF 30. Not all of us have SAS, MICS, MXG, etc. You should have
>written a
SLIP A=RECOVERY will stop the ability, but it will do it by causing
a 06F abend in VSM or RSM while their FRRs are still in place, so their
recovery will run, and will likely take an SDUMP of the 06F abend.
Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp.
Poughkeepsie NY
IBM
If you just clipped the VOLSER then whatever was there wasn't touched. You need
ICKDSF INIT
Probably wouldn't hurt to do a ===>ds qd,2338,8,validate
In a message dated 4/5/2018 2:37:36 PM Central Standard Time,
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu writes:
I just clipped AR2338 -
> SLIP A=RECOVERY will stop the ability, but it will do it by causing
>a 06F abend in VSM or RSM while their FRRs are still in place, so their
>recovery will run, and will likely take an SDUMP of the 06F abend.
>
>Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp.
>Poughkeepsie N
On 5/04/2018 11:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
I believe so but, answering Andrew's question, the signature on messages he
sends
is encrypted using Andrew's private key which he does not disclose even to the
CA.
The recipient verifies the signature using the public key obtained from the CA.
Not
This a jet's eye view. When CLIPping volumes, you have to vary them
offline/online to all sharing systems. Failure to do that can result in some
very distorted views of volume content.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Ma
Does anybody have a copy of Mark Zelden's "twopakzd.txt" file? The link
is broken on his web page.
I did email Mark yesterday, but I have not heard back so he may be busy.
Tony Thigpen
Lou Losee wrote on 04/04/2018 08:59 AM:
http://mzelden.com/mvsutilr.html#jobs
Lou
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No, @Gil has it right.
Charles
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On 5/04/2018 1
On 6/04/2018 12:41 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
No, @Gil has it right.
OK, help me understand.
I believe so but, answering Andrew's question, the signature on
messages he sends is encrypted using Andrew's private key which he does not
disclose even to the CA.
The signature is encrypted using my
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