migrate from GDPS 3.12 to GDPS metro 4.1.

2018-06-04 Thread Jason Cai
Hi all We want to migrate from GDPS 3.12 to GDPS metro 4.1. There are two migration procedures: 1. Big Bang migration and 2 Enhanced migration Could you tell us which migration procedure could be chosen to migrate from GDPS 3.12 to GDPS metro 4.1 directly. Is there any relevant

Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

2018-06-04 Thread Allan Staller
"(I'm assuming that last usage of "RLS" > should be "LSR".)" No. RLS and LST are *VERY* different. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2018 1:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

2018-06-04 Thread J R
The point made was that the paragraph did not make sense as printed. The suggestion was *not* that LSR and RLS were equivalent. > On Jun 4, 2018, at 08:26, Allan Staller wrote: > > "(I'm assuming that last usage of "RLS" > should be "LSR".)" > > No. RLS and LST are *VERY* different.

Re: History of the Information System Technology (IT) Rating – Station HYPO

2018-06-04 Thread Dave Jones
A very interesting history, Mark. Thanks for sharing. And thanks for your service, too. DJ On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 07:38:02 -0400, Mark Regan wrote: >Sharing since IBM is mentioned several times in this article. I was a CTO >in the Navy from 1969 to 1991 (part of that was in the reserves from 1979

History of the Information System Technology (IT) Rating – Station HYPO

2018-06-04 Thread Mark Regan
Sharing since IBM is mentioned several times in this article. I was a CTO in the Navy from 1969 to 1991 (part of that was in the reserves from 1979 to 1991). https://stationhypo.com/2018/06/04/history-of-the-information-system-technology-it-rating/ -- Regards, Mark T. Regan

Re: ptrace + SVC 144 + R14 + dbx setting register values

2018-06-04 Thread Peter Relson
>if SVCs architecturally have this restriction SVCs do not architecturally have this restriction. Given what I know in general (not specific to USS), I would not make the assumption that "...because the SVC 144 routine uses register 14 to exit" is true. It might be true that a modification to

Re: ptrace + SVC 144 + R14 + dbx setting register values

2018-06-04 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Peter Relson wrote: if SVCs architecturally have this restriction SVCs do not architecturally have this restriction. Given what I know in general (not specific to USS), I would not make the assumption that "...because the SVC 144 routine uses register 14 to exit" is true. It might be

Re: migrate from GDPS 3.12 to GDPS metro 4.1.

2018-06-04 Thread Steve Horein
3.12 to 4.1 will require Big Bang method. Chapter 1, topic 1.4, "Migration and coexistence" of the "Installation and Customization Guide" has the details. On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 2:16 AM, Jason Cai wrote: > Hi all > > We want to migrate from GDPS 3.12 to GDPS metro 4.1. > > There are two

Re: Looking for IPCS VERBX examples

2018-06-04 Thread Susan Shumway
This is good feedback and definitely worthy of a requirement, so consider opening one. I'll direct my IPCS content developers to this thread as a heads up. -Sue Shumway On 06/04/18 11:28 AM, Don Poitras wrote: In article <1599371286812594.wa.zos.jes2gmail@listserv.ua.edu> you wrote:

Re: HWIBCPII

2018-06-04 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 06/04/2018 12:29 PM, Clark Morris wrote: > [Default] On 4 Jun 2018 08:14:27 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Ed Jaffe) wrote: > >> On 6/3/2018 10:07 PM, Barbara Nitz wrote: >> >>> The LE transaction dump *requires* JES2, hence HWIBCPII *requires* JES2 (if >>> only

Re: problem with FTP from Windows 10 to z/OS

2018-06-04 Thread Kevin Merkley
Thanks for the responses. I did receive an explanation that OPTS UTF8 ON is not the problem. The Windows 10 FTP client uses a different function to read the password and always reads it from stdin. This is something we send out to customers so we have to expect they may not have anything

Re: Looking for IPCS VERBX examples

2018-06-04 Thread Dan D
Thanks Wayne, The reason for the request is like you said, the DOC is quite lacking. You can get some info from reading the macros but that's really not how DOC should be done. The only three that I've had issues with are ADPLSEQS, ADPLSMAP and maybe ADPLSSYM. With the little doc/examples

Re: Looking for IPCS VERBX examples

2018-06-04 Thread Dan D
Sorry, I meant that I got the OTHERS working well but these three have me confused. Thanks, Dan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken

2018-06-04 Thread Mike Hochee
Yes, I reported issues with both the z/OS 2.1 and 2.2 pdf libraries to IBM last Friday afternoon. I received a reply that someone by the name of Geoff Smith is looking into them. I will forward this email to him as well. (Thank you! I wasn't hallucinating this time!) Mike -Original

z/OS Internet Library Broken

2018-06-04 Thread Dejan Stamatovic
I noticed the problem last week and it still has not been resolved. (much to my annoyance) Dejan Stamatovic -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

RACF protection of a volume

2018-06-04 Thread Todd Burrell
Hopefully this is not a stupid question - but is it possibly via RACF (maybe with DASDVOL) to allow a particular system to have only read access to a DASD volume? We have a need to possibly vary some devices onto a system in one plex while it is being updated on another plex, so we would like

Re: RACF protection of a volume

2018-06-04 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 17:27:25 -0500, Todd Burrell wrote: >Hopefully this is not a stupid question - but is it possibly via RACF (maybe >with DASDVOL) to allow a particular system to have only read access to a DASD >volume? We have a need to possibly vary some devices onto a system in one >plex

Re: RACF protection of a volume

2018-06-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you were not aware there is a RACF list that this question might also be posted to To join, if you have not done so RACFhttp://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/racf-l.html A side comment, I would not allow DASD Sharing between plexes. Within members of a PLEX, yes. Between Plexes, no

Re: RACF protection of a volume

2018-06-04 Thread Rob Schramm
Are we not smart enough to deal with such things? GRS special processing, hardware reserves, MIM..or for sysprogs.. just being careful? Should some restraint be exercised? Sure.. but let's not act like we are just another server without ways to do just about anything ( some more advisable than

Re: HWIBCPII

2018-06-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
Ed, please reread my first post! >If that's the case, then the fault lies with LE and not BCPii. How is LE to know that it runs under an implicit sub=mstr? That is not how your standard Cobol/PL/I program runs. What started this off was our general setting of HEAPCHK(ON) on request of

Re: RACF protection of a volume

2018-06-04 Thread Mike Schwab
An SMS volume from a system without the volume defined to a storage group is pretty darn resistant. But they generally don't need this kind of treatment. On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 5:27 PM Todd Burrell wrote: > > Hopefully this is not a stupid question - but is it possibly via RACF (maybe > with

Re: RACF protection of a volume

2018-06-04 Thread Chris Hoelscher
How many Cindy's do you have? Chris Hoelscher Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 10:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN]

Re: RACF protection of a volume

2018-06-04 Thread Rob Schramm
Excellent point. I ran across this ( at the time it was a pesky problem ) which kept me from at least creating datasets on a SMS volume that's part of another Cindy. Rob Schramm On Mon, Jun 4, 2018, 10:37 PM Mike Schwab wrote: > An SMS volume from a system without the volume defined to a

Re: Looking for IPCS VERBX examples

2018-06-04 Thread Dan D
Don, thanks for the C sample. I'll convert it over to assemble and see if I can get something working. Susan, I appreciate that you've noticed this and will be helping to get the manuals updated. I have heard from others in the past that there is more useful information within the mapping

Re: HWIBCPII

2018-06-04 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/4/2018 10:29 AM, Clark Morris wrote: CEEDUMP may default to SYSOUT=*. It's long enough since I dealt with these things that I do;t know how it should be changed for SUB=MSTR. If that's the case, then the fault lies with LE and not BCPii. If the allocation for CEEDUMP fails, then the

Re: RACF protection of a volume

2018-06-04 Thread Burrell, Todd
As I said this was probably a stupid question. I suspect that from what I have seen MIM may be a solution, but we will look more. Thanks for the info, Walt. This email transmission and any accompanying attachments may contain CSX privileged and confidential information intended only for

Re: ptrace + SVC 144 + R14 + dbx setting register values

2018-06-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
PER uses program interrupts, not an SVC. That said, calling an SVC does not normally alter R14; the SVC would have to do something unusual. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of

Re: problem with FTP from Windows 10 to z/OS

2018-06-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 16:21:52 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Sorry for wasting bandwidth, I missed the part where you wanted the "password >not in the script" option. I didn't realize the Win 7 FTP did that and that >Win 10 does not since I always just used "password in the script" for my

Re: ptrace + SVC 144 + R14 + dbx setting register values

2018-06-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 16:58:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >PER uses program interrupts, not an SVC. > >That said, calling an SVC does not normally alter R14; the SVC would have to >do something unusual. > Does either PER or SVC preserve the program mask (CC, ILC, ...)? If so, that's the one dbx

z/OS Internet Library Broken

2018-06-04 Thread Allan Staller
Anyone else having trouble accessing the V2R2 PDF's from https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosInternetLibrary?OpenDocument ? When I select "Download books in PDF format" I receive the expected shortcut list. If is select z/OS MVS, I get different page that

Re: problem with FTP from Windows 10 to z/OS

2018-06-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Sorry for wasting bandwidth, I missed the part where you wanted the "password not in the script" option. I didn't realize the Win 7 FTP did that and that Win 10 does not since I always just used "password in the script" for my personal use. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

2018-06-04 Thread Charles Mills
> It pays to read before write... That's the whole subject here, right? VSAM files won't do that. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 8:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: problem with FTP from Windows 10 to z/OS

2018-06-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
PMFJI here, but that is simply not true of Win 10 FTP in my experience. My company machine is Windows 10 Pro and the FTP command and script files that I use look like this (anonymized): CMD file: ftp -s:c:\ut\ftpscript.ftp xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ftpscript.ftp: tsouser password quote site notrail

Re: History of the Information System Technology (IT) Rating – Station HYPO

2018-06-04 Thread Mike Schwab
Is there a history to operating the analog firing computers I.E. WW2 era? On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 6:38 AM, Mark Regan wrote: > Sharing since IBM is mentioned several times in this article. I was a CTO > in the Navy from 1969 to 1991 (part of that was in the reserves from 1979 > to 1991). > >

Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken

2018-06-04 Thread Allan Staller
Just to clarify. The 1st page is fine. Once you start to drill down, issues are encountered. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Shumway Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: HWIBCPII

2018-06-04 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/3/2018 10:07 PM, Barbara Nitz wrote: The LE transaction dump *requires* JES2, hence HWIBCPII *requires* JES2 (if only in special circumstances). Which is why I call this crappy design. LE transaction dump requires JES2? That's news to me... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E.

Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken

2018-06-04 Thread Susan Shumway
Hi Dejan, What's the URL of the page that you're trying to access? https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosInternetLibrary is working fine for me. -Sue Shumway On 06/04/18 11:01 AM, Dejan Stamatovic wrote: I noticed the problem last week and it still has not been

Re: Looking for IPCS VERBX examples

2018-06-04 Thread Don Poitras
In article <1599371286812594.wa.zos.jes2gmail@listserv.ua.edu> you wrote: > Thanks Wayne, > The reason for the request is like you said, the DOC is quite lacking. You > can get some info from reading the macros but that's really not how DOC > should be done. > The only three that I've had

Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken

2018-06-04 Thread Pommier, Rex
Yup, interesting thing is that the header changes to make it look like it's heading to a different location, but it all goes back to the menu screen. https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r2-pdf-download?OpenDocument#GIM

Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

2018-06-04 Thread Steve Smith
Nice irony how he not only misunderstood the statement, but introduced his own typo/spelling error. It pays to read before write... sas On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 8:45 AM, J R wrote: > The point made was that the paragraph did not make sense as printed. The > suggestion was *not* that LSR and

Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken

2018-06-04 Thread Allan Staller
Nope. That URL provides the same behavior. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Shumway Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken Hi Dejan, What's the

Re: problem with FTP from Windows 10 to z/OS

2018-06-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Some windoze programs inflict a BOM on you; that breaks existing software. In some cases it is not obvious from the error message that there is a garbage character at the beginning of the file; you have to use an editor that does not swallow U+FEFF . -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: HWIBCPII

2018-06-04 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 4 Jun 2018 08:14:27 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Ed Jaffe) wrote: >On 6/3/2018 10:07 PM, Barbara Nitz wrote: > >> The LE transaction dump *requires* JES2, hence HWIBCPII *requires* JES2 (if >> only in special circumstances). Which is why I call this

Re: ptrace + SVC 144 + R14 + dbx setting register values

2018-06-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
PER definitely preserves the entire PSW. Unless the SVC routine tinkers with RBOPSW, I would expect Exit to restore the original value. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul

Re: Netview Automation Issue

2018-06-04 Thread Cieri, Anthony
We don't use RACF here, so my knowledge there is very limited, but I have a few suggestions!! First, the is a Netview group under Yahoo Groups, you may find more Netview types there. There are several errors below. The DSI148I and DSI417I errors lead me to

Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken

2018-06-04 Thread Susan Shumway
Sorry guys, my newsreader only grabbed Allan's post for some reason, so I didn't initially have the rest of the posts with the full story. Geoff was notified and has indeed been working on this, so thank you for the notice! The V2R1 and V2R2 PDF pages should be fixed by EOD tomorrow. In the