Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
Wasn't there a fire at PID in that time frame? IAC, thanks; a lot of the stuff I would want to cite is after 1976. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
I couldn't get any hits earlier than 1981. Are there any legal issues in citing documents from there on wiki? Would it be possible to add options for from-to date ranges and for oldest first sort order? Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Currently executing TCB in a address space

2021-05-14 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi Was just wondering is there any way to know in a address space what TCB is currently executing Would it be ASXBFTCB ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: STIMERM LT value

2021-05-14 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/13/2021 10:19 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: Ed, I won't argue the point of "Why isn't in a standard feature?" (I wish it was, too), but I will take issue with "pricey". I was surprised at how inexpensive it actually is, particularly when I look at what it does. Reasonable people can

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
I've never seen the term "Plug Compatible Mainframe"; it looks like a backronym by someone who had never seen the beast. PCM is Plug Compatible Manufacturer, which is why the term was applied to, e.g., terminals. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
Had I seen the term hybrid mainframe out of context then I would have taken it as ZBX, but I assume that Greg meant a small system compatible with a mainframe, e.g., P/390, PDT. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Tom Brennan
Got it, thanks. At first I was thinking zBX too, but that wasn't available 30 years ago. Then thought maybe AS/400, which people (not me) sometimes call Mainframes. Now I'm trying to remember if I ever threw one of my old x86 boxes out the window. Probably out the door, but not a window.

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Tom Brennan
Wow! And now I know what spandrels and mullions are, since Wiki makes links out of words I probably don't know (and they were right). On 5/14/2021 2:09 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: Your windows didn't throw themselves? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Gary Eheman
Just seemed easier to write at that moment than Plug Compatible Mainframe, or PCM, which opens up another debate on for what PCM is an acronym. "Yo mainframe so fat it cannot be thrown out a window and must be lifted in and out with a crane costing thousands more in delivery and installation

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Tom Brennan
Friday Story: Throwing things out the window reminds me of when I worked on the 3rd floor of the Edison Building in Long Beach, CA (visible in one of the scenes in "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World"), and someone ran up to me telling me I better go move my car. It was parked outside near an old

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
Your windows didn't throw themselves? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Tom Brennan

Re: STIMERM LT value

2021-05-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Fri, 14 May 2021 05:28:52 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >Reasonable people can disagree about what the word "pricey" means, but >no one can defend the indefensible. > >Every Intel-based Linux, Windows or Mac, at every hardware price-point, >can synchronize its clock with an external NTP sever in

Re: GitBucket on z/OS ?

2021-05-14 Thread David Crayford
On 15/05/2021 1:45 pm, David Crayford wrote: On 14/05/2021 11:58 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: INFO:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:main: NO JSP Support for /, did not find org.eclipse.jetty.jsp.JettyJspServlet This message is because you're not running in a servlet container. If you download

Re: How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application

2021-05-14 Thread David Crayford
This is usually due to Websphere scanning the dropins folder for updates. z/OS doesn't have edge triggered kernel hooks like inotify on Linux so has to use brute force. It's not just I/O it consumes a lot of CPU. You can disable it in server.xml locationMonitoringEnabled="false"

Re: How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application

2021-05-14 Thread David Crayford
On 15/05/2021 1:03 am, Matt Hogstrom wrote: It takes z/OSMF about an hour to fully initialize on my ZD … same behavior (lots of SIOs and CPU) IBM says its fixing this but its been quite a while. Its Java related. And how much does ZD cost? We had customer complain that our Apache Tomcat

Re: GitBucket on z/OS ?

2021-05-14 Thread David Crayford
On 14/05/2021 11:58 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: INFO:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:main: NO JSP Support for /, did not find org.eclipse.jetty.jsp.JettyJspServlet This message is because you're not running in a servlet container. If you download Apache Tomcat and drop the war into the

Re: GitBucket on z/OS ?

2021-05-14 Thread David Crayford
Works for me. You shouldn't need to download libraries as it's packaged into a fat Jar. On 14/05/2021 9:57 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: Has anyone any experience in getting GitBucket to run on z/OS USS? I've downloaded the war file and it will start but then couldn't find: [main] WARN

Re: GitBucket on z/OS ?

2021-05-14 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Nice - when I have it running, I get those missing class messages but it does start and I'm able to sign in as root. BUT when I try to create a group, repository, click on system admin, or account settings, I am once again prompted to sign in. Any advice? This is the startup script that I'm

Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

2021-05-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
There may be multiple tasks running in the same address space, so there's no way to select one TCB as current. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, May

GitBucket on z/OS ?

2021-05-14 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Has anyone any experience in getting GitBucket to run on z/OS USS? I've downloaded the war file and it will start but then couldn't find: [main] WARN l.servicelocator.ServiceLocator - Cannot use class liquibase.parser.core.json.JsonChangeLogParser as a Liquibase service because

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Charles Mills
It's a joke. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gary Eheman Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 7:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION,

WebSeal & CIS benchmarks for auditing

2021-05-14 Thread Linda Hagedorn
Hi. We will be auditing WebSeal in-house and are looking for the appropriate CIS benchmarks. Does anyone know the CIS benchmarks for WebSeal? Our searches have been unproductive. The CIS site is here: https://www.cisecurity.org/cis-benchmarks/ We searched for: . Webseal .

Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

2021-05-14 Thread Tom Harper
There can be many. There really is no way to know precisely at a given instance because you could scan the TCBs in an address space and check their dispatch flags, but that could change from under you at any instant. Tom Harper Sent from my iPhone > On May 14, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Joseph

Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

2021-05-14 Thread Joseph Reichman
So it would come down to starting at ASXBFTCB and looking at each TCB dispatch ability Thanks > On May 14, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Tom Harper wrote: > > There can be many. There really is no way to know precisely at a given > instance because you could scan the TCBs in an address space and

Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

2021-05-14 Thread Charles Mills
You address space ("this address space") or any address space? For the latter I don't know -- of course, nothing might be executing or an SRB might be executing or ... I don't know all the possibilities. I believe for "my TCB" the traditional source is PSATOLD. Charles -Original

Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

2021-05-14 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thanks Seems like there wouldn’t be any easy way to find out > On May 14, 2021, at 9:47 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > > You address space ("this address space") or any address space? For the > latter I don't know -- of course, nothing might be executing or an SRB might > be executing or ...

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Gary Eheman
On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote: >If you haven't seen this, then check it out. > >www.mainframestore.com As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI building hybrid mainframes for customers that I could both lift and throw out of a window if I

Re: How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application

2021-05-14 Thread Colin Paice
Matt, One problem with the Slow start up is the first time it has to compile/cache things - the second time it is faster. Ive blogged on saving the cached stuff across restarts. I hear one of the problems is to do with the checking access to files, not Java as such. Z/OSMF had been up and I had

Re: How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application

2021-05-14 Thread Chris Hoelscher
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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Tom Brennan
And dimensions! Late last year I was at a site that brought a new z15 into their datacenter. Remotely, we all "thought" the doorway was tall enough but later I was told someone measured the doorway without taking into consideration the 1/2" metal top door jamb. Luckily that part could be

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Tom Brennan
Maybe just for me, but what's a Hybrid Mainframe? On 5/14/2021 9:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic definition, those aren't mainframes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic definition, those aren't mainframes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Gary Eheman

Re: How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application

2021-05-14 Thread Matt Hogstrom
It takes z/OSMF about an hour to fully initialize on my ZD … same behavior (lots of SIOs and CPU) IBM says its fixing this but its been quite a while. Its Java related. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 Facebook LinkedIn

Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

2021-05-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
It's easy to tell "Where am I executing?". Beyond that you have to run chains while holding a lock. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joseph Reichman

How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application

2021-05-14 Thread Colin Paice
Im using z/OSMF on my little zPDT system, and it is doing about 50,000 SIO a second, when it is doing "nothing" How canI tell what it is doing? I expect most of these files are in the zFS file system, but I dont know the best way of finding out what is going on. I do not have tools like Strobe

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Back in my Boeing days mainframe systems were defined as any Large scale system processor, Cray, PDP/Vax CDC SCS systems, some of these boxes were much smaller that today's new z15 processors, some much larger :) Carmen On 5/14/2021 11:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: That depends on what you

Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Gary Eheman
I get it. Like, "Yo mainframe so fat it requires floor loading calculations be performed before it can enter the room." ;-) On Fri, 14 May 2021 07:54:20 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >It's a joke. > >Charles > > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List