Re: DFRMM Request For Enhancement 106021

2017-07-18 Thread Mike Wood
Tim, Yes as part of initialisation there is a check for licensing. And that is 
the result.

If it is wanted to act differently, a change would be needed.

I did not have those details about the specific situation, else would have 
stated something a little differently first time.

Mike

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Re: DFRMM Request For Enhancement 106021

2017-07-17 Thread Tim Deller
Mike,
You said that when EDGSSSI is in the subsystem entry then DFRMM must be in 
control but that's not what happened.
Following is the explanation from DFRMM level two;
When RMM failed to initialize the situation is similar to   
when RMM is started with the following command 'S DFRMM,OPT=RESET'. 
This command disables the DFSMSrmm Subsystem Interface.  Tapes are  
allowed to be created, but this tape activity is not being recorded.
This is essentially the same type of behavior that you encountered when 
RMM did not initialize and start.  If RMM subsystem was initialized with
IEFSSNxx then EDG messages would have come out, but because the license 
for RMM was not found it did not initialize.


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Re: DFRMM Request For Enhancement 106021

2017-07-15 Thread Mike Wood
Arthur,
You cannot take the snippets out of context. Each snippet is qualified.

Remember that rmm is always on your system (s/w delivered and installed as part 
of z/os), you have to take steps to tell rmm that it turned on. Adding DFRM 
susbsystem + EDGSSSI to IEFSSNxx turns it on fully. Adding just the DFRMM 
without EDGSSSI allows you to run rmm but it is not in control until you issue 
the START command.

Mike

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Re: DFRMM Request For Enhancement 106021

2017-07-14 Thread Arthur
In the same post are these two snippets. The second seems 
to contradict the first, and seems to be the problem that 
the OP is complaining about:


On 14 Jul 2017 13:40:52 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main 
(Message-ID:<8306788698430144.wa.mikewwoodhotmail@listserv.ua.edu>) 
mikeww...@hotmail.com (Mike Wood) wrote:


you should not be able to write to a tape without rmm 
knowing about it.


Prior to that the system allows tapes to be used without 
rmm knowing.


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Re: DFRMM Request For Enhancement 106021

2017-07-14 Thread Mike Wood
I have no access to the RFE, but, if you follow the installation instructions 
correctly you should not be able to write to a tape without rmm knowing about 
it.

IFAPRDxx is simply a way to identify you have a license, it is not how you 
ensure that rmm is in control for all tape activity.

IEFSSNxx and the definition of the subsystem starts to tell the system you want 
to actually use rmm. Adding EDGSSSI to that subsystem entry, or starting the 
started task, tells rmm that it MUST be in control. Prior to that the system 
allows tapes to be used without rmm knowing.

The documentation for rmm implementation or migration to rmm should have made 
that clear.

Mike Wood

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Re: DFRMM Request For Enhancement 106021

2017-07-14 Thread Tom Conley

On 7/14/2017 10:03 AM, Tim Deller wrote:

If you Run DFRMM ; Please consider voting for my RFE at:

  http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=106021

We used to run CA-1 and it had a zap to disallow tape creation until CA-1 was 
recording.
Needless to say ; DFRMM is different ; and we got stung.



Tim,

Are you saying that you opened a PMR for this issue and IBM gave you the 
WAD?  This is a dataloss situation and a pretty easy change for IBM to 
make.  You shouldn't have to eat a tape because your IFAPRDxx got messed 
up.  This is really wrong.


HEADS UP TO RMM INSTALLATIONS!  LOCK IN "ENABLED" IN YOUR IFAPRDxx 
MEMBER AND RIP OFF THE KNOB!


Regards,
Tom Conley

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DFRMM Request For Enhancement 106021

2017-07-14 Thread Tim Deller
If you Run DFRMM ; Please consider voting for my RFE at:

 http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=106021

We used to run CA-1 and it had a zap to disallow tape creation until CA-1 was 
recording.
Needless to say ; DFRMM is different ; and we got stung.

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