Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Charles Mills
True that. CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity. Original message From: Jeremy Nicoll Date: 4/12/20 12:47 PM (GMT-08:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: About the "hello world" program On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, at 19:42, Charles Mills wrote:&

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread scott Ford
Better yet Bob, why would you want too On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:31 PM Bob Bridges wrote: > I started to skip this one without reading carefully, but then the term > caught my eye. "Quine"...quine...Doggone, I'm sure I've heard of it. In > fact, I'm morally certain Douglas Hofstadter talked

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Bob Bridges
I started to skip this one without reading carefully, but then the term caught my eye. "Quine"...quine...Doggone, I'm sure I've heard of it. In fact, I'm morally certain Douglas Hofstadter talked about them, right? Which means they must be some kind of paradox or self-referential joke.

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Robert Prins
On 2020-04-12 14:18, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:23:47 +, Robert Prins wrote: On 2020-04-11 06:25, David Crayford wrote: On 2020-04-11 8:42 AM, Dale R. Smith wrote: After "Hello World!" maybe the next step would be "99 Bottles of Beer"!:-)>

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, at 19:42, Charles Mills wrote: > I suppose one could invent a language that had a verb, BIF or library > call Say100Bottles() that would thereby solve the problem in one line > of code. You can do it in less. You invent a language whose runtime initialisation code does

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Charles Mills
: Sunday, April 12, 2020 7:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: About the "hello world" program I haven't the stamina to check: What's the shortest of the 1500 examples, with/without correct grammatical plurals?

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:23:47 +, Robert Prins wrote: >On 2020-04-11 06:25, David Crayford wrote: >> On 2020-04-11 8:42 AM, Dale R. Smith wrote: >>> After "Hello World!" maybe the next step would be "99 Bottles of Beer"!:-)> >>> >>> http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/ >>> >>> After a few real beers,

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: About the "hello world" program Phrase the response as "You will turn ### years old this year." On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 1:21 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Yes, but then the answer wouldn't be a year off. > > > -- > Shmuel (S

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Mike Schwab
_ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of > Mike Stramba [mikestra...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 8:18 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: About the "hello world" program > > That

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of > Mike Stramba [mikestra...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 8:18 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: About the "hello world" program > > That would take it to another level of complexity > > (Parsing

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: About the "hello world" program That would take it to another level of complexity (Parsing day, month, year), instead of just year It's already complex enough for some languages (i.e. assembler) for converting the string input to n

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Mike Stramba
f > Mike Stramba [mikestra...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 12:23 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: About the "hello world" program > >> After "Hello World!" maybe the next step would be "99 Bottles of Beer"! > > A

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: About the "hello world" program > After "Hello World!" maybe the next step would be "99 Bottles of Beer"! After "Hello World" (output only ...obv), I like an "age" program : /* rexx */ say 'What is your name ?'

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-11 Thread Mike Stramba
> After "Hello World!" maybe the next step would be "99 Bottles of Beer"! After "Hello World" (output only ...obv), I like an "age" program : /* rexx */ say 'What is your name ?' pull name say 'What is your age ?' pull age yb = 2020 - age say 'You were born in the year ' yb Mike

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-11 Thread Bob Bridges
I remember back in the '80s, before Windows, when everyone had a menu system such as Maestro on their DOS PCs, I reprogrammed a coworker's menu system. Whenever he brought up Harvard Graphics, it modified the menu option for Word. When he ran the Word option, it displayed a quick "Roberto is

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-11 Thread Rupert Reynolds
Talking of "Hello, world!", I remember working in ISPF/TSO, when a line-mode message filled the screen. A text rendering of a ghost and "Nasty Wetmonster* phantom strikes again!". Everyone in the office got it. I looked up the TPUT macro and found the USERIDL= parameter. Some clown was scanning

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-11 Thread Bob Bridges
When I was very young, my sister and I made up a rule: If knowing one word of a language meant we could speak that language, how many languages could we speak? I knew "da" and "nyet" from Rocky and Bullwinkle, so I could speak Russian. "Sayonara", ok, that's Japanese. And so on. In the

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-11 Thread Robert Prins
On 2020-04-11 06:25, David Crayford wrote: On 2020-04-11 8:42 AM, Dale R. Smith wrote: After "Hello World!" maybe the next step would be "99 Bottles of Beer"!:-)> http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/ After a few real beers, the virtual beers would be a lot harder!  Ha Ha haha, some creative soul

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-11 Thread David Crayford
On 2020-04-11 8:42 AM, Dale R. Smith wrote: After "Hello World!" maybe the next step would be "99 Bottles of Beer"!:-)> http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/ After a few real beers, the virtual beers would be a lot harder! Ha Ha haha, some creative soul has even done JCL using utilities

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-10 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:43:00 -0400, Steve Smith wrote: >Besides Bob's rationale, getting HelloWorld to compile & run also ensures >that the infrastructure & environment you need is present and working. > >sas > >On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 12:11 PM Bob Bridges wrote: > >> Just my opinion, but if

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-10 Thread Charles Mills
nt: Friday, April 10, 2020 11:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: About the "hello world" program Yep, a IVP -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to list

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-10 Thread scott Ford
Yep, a IVP On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 12:43 PM Steve Smith wrote: > Besides Bob's rationale, getting HelloWorld to compile & run also ensures > that the infrastructure & environment you need is present and working. > > sas > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 12:11 PM Bob Bridges > wrote: > > > Just my

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Smith
Besides Bob's rationale, getting HelloWorld to compile & run also ensures that the infrastructure & environment you need is present and working. sas On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 12:11 PM Bob Bridges wrote: > Just my opinion, but if you mean the hello-world program is maximally > trivial, fine. But