Re: Address space dump for Exit usage

2019-05-17 Thread Peter Relson

When we take a SVCDUMP for an active address space . Does the dump shows 
if
that particular address space uses particular EXIT ?


We need to start with understanding the question. What do you mean "dump 
shows"? And what do you mean by "uses"?''

If by "dump shows" you are asking about evidence in the system trace of a 
call to a particular exit (and/or a particular exit routine) there is 
unlikely to be any, although for some there might be evidence of a PC to 
the dynamic exits service. But that PC would not show what exit or what 
exit routine.

If by "uses" you mean "the system calls a particular exit for that 
particular address space", if you know the system control blocks you can 
likely figure out if a particular exit applies to a particular address 
space. But that would require a lot of internal knowledge.  An "address 
space dump" is likely not useful at all. You'd need a dump of common 
storage and/or the address space that houses the information about calling 
exits.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design


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Re: Address space dump for Exit usage

2019-05-16 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Using certain exits can also be defined outside control of the Address Space. 
E.g. SMFPRMxx defines whether certain exits are used or not for the address 
space.
Or, PROGxx defines whether certain exit routines are used or not.

Both situations will probably be invisible in a dump of the address space..

Kees.


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> Hi
> 
> Cross posted
> 
> When we take a SVCDUMP for an active address space . Does the dump shows
> if
> that particular address space uses particular EXIT ? I am just trying to
> understand if a dump of an address space can help me to determine if a
> particular exit is being used or not .
> 
> Any pointers would be appreciated.
> 
> Jake
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Re: Address space dump for Exit usage

2019-05-16 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 16 May 2019 09:06:46 +0400 Jake Anderson 
wrote:

:>When we take a SVCDUMP for an active address space . Does the dump shows if
:>that particular address space uses particular EXIT ? I am just trying to
:>understand if a dump of an address space can help me to determine if a
:>particular exit is being used or not .

Lets break down the questions into two parts:

1. Was the exit invoked in that address space? If it leave footprints, you
should be able to find them.

2. Will it be executed?

In all cases, it would be best to read documentation on the exit to understand
when it is documented to receive control. Note that some exits can have their
attributes altered, in that at time X it will, but after certain operator
commands (or API calls) it will not. And vice versa.

The SVCDUMP will only work if you do an IF trap qualified by the job.

Curious minds ask - which exit? What unexpected result is seen?

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