Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at SHARE

2020-09-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
Actually, 12:00 AM and 12:00 PM are mambiguous, NIST says not to use them and different sources define them differently. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at SHARE

2020-09-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:12:09 +, Billy Ashton wrote: >And in that "special" US format, I am surprised at how many people think >12:00 AM is noon instead of midnight...I can see how that is much >clearer! > Actually, noon is 12:00M. (John M.:) >>>. . . >>> I was forced to change it to the

Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at SHARE

2020-09-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
The problems are that nobody writes 12:00 midnight or 12:00 noon. which are unambiguous, and that different style guides give different definitions. NIST recommends not using either 12:00 AM or 12:00 PM, but rather using something unambiguous. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at SHARE

2020-09-23 Thread Billy Ashton
And in that "special" US format, I am surprised at how many people think 12:00 AM is noon instead of midnight...I can see how that is much clearer! B . . . I was forced to change it to the "US standard" of mm/dd/yy hh:ms:ss xM (x==A or P) because nobody understood that format and it was too

Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at SHARE

2020-09-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
GMT is not the same as UTC. I would have preferred a separator space, but what is hard to read in -mm-ddThh:mm:ssZ, other than the use of UTC rather than local? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at SHARE

2020-09-23 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:21 AM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:36:10 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: > > >I am giving a BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer on Thursday, > >September 24 in the last session period - 16:15 Eastern

Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at SHARE

2020-09-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
Are they recording BOFs or just regularly scheduled sessions? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at

Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at SHARE

2020-09-22 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Not to mention all sessions are recorded! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 2:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at SHARE No good deed goes

Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at SHARE

2020-09-22 Thread Charles Mills
No good deed goes unpunished. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at

Re: BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer at SHARE

2020-09-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:36:10 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: >I am giving a BOF on COBOL and the systems programmer on Thursday, >September 24 in the last session period - 16:15 Eastern time zone, >15:15 Central time zone, 14:15, Mountain time zone, 13:15 Pacific >time, 17:15 Atlantic time zone in