Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
No Jesse, I explained userid translation between HMC and SE. However this translation has no relationship to object locking. Magic "SooSysprog" is not magic and does not play any important role in multiple access. An access to SE or CPC is controlled by mechanism similar to GRS, simply another user cannot access object which is already in use. So, for example multiple remote users can logon HMC simoultaneously and each of them can access different CPC. However when you access Single Object Operations on CPC A, then CPC A is locked by you. It's like DISP=OLD on dataset. Note 1: Single Object Operations is rather rare or at least less frequently used activity. Simoultaneous access may have sense, but it is not allowed. However many things can be done without SOO access. Note 2: As far as I know, on z15 actions previously accessible only from SE are now available from HMC directly. So, there is no longer need to use SOO (almost). I have described that in my manual (I used to teach HMC/SE and HCD, I created my own course materials), however it is not main topic :-) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 30.05.2020 o 00:27, Jesse 1 Robinson pisze: (Oops. This reply went to the wrong thread.) We have never defined any installation userids on any SE. The only users defined are the standard IBM supplied one. Are you saying, if we defined at least a few of our own, we could have multiple 'sysprogs' logged on simultaneously? . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 9:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL I think you mean user like SooSysprog. Soo means Single Object Operations. This is complex issue, and it is fixed in 2.15 (z15 machines) - I know that from guy who is part of HMC/SE development team. Regarding z14 and older HMC levels the devil is in user table. 1. Some people do not define users and use pre-defined one like SYSPROG, OPER, SERVICE, etc. Sometimes even with default passwords. ;-) It's not worth further investigation. 2. Some people use LDAP, let's ignore it for clarity. 3. Some people do define custom userids, preferably each person has its own userid. However there is some "gotcha" here. You define users in HMC. HMC, but not SE. SE has still its own, predefined set of users. What happens when user JOHN1 defined as clone of SYSPROG logs on HMC? He is JOHN1. What about single object operations? Well, SE doesn not know JOHN1. However SE knows and trust HMC. In that case JOHN1 will be mapped to SooSYSPROG, which is SYSPROG equivalent. So, JOHN1 may manage SE. My recommendation is to repeat user definition on each SE and HMC in your shop. Of course there is no requirement all users have to be equally defined. However the above ...has no meaning for your issue. Why? Because of locked resource. SE object is busy and that's why any other person cannot perform SOO. The same apply for for many other objects in SE and HMC. Regarding Service Mode - I see no cons against IPL during this time. Note, IPL has very little to do with SE. Yes, SE initiate IPL process, but it is very limited. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 28.05.2020 o 17:33, Jesse 1 Robinson pisze: We have remote access to HMC/SE. We can perform most actions remotely, but in one area we're stuck--unless something has changed. Only one individual can log on to an SE at one time because the userid generated is SOOxxx based on the function being exercised. When that userid is logged on, subsequent accesses to the SE are denied. If an SE/CEC has been left in Service Mode by a remote user, I'm not sure how one would get int to turn it off. (Now that I think about it, that action may be disallowed.) I am curious about the original question: re-IPL while in Service Mode. Whether it's a good idea, is it even possible? . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 8:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Technically, it's easy. Installation policy varies all over the landscape. IMHO a VPN would address the security issues, but it's not my dog. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of R.S. [r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSER
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
(Oops. This reply went to the wrong thread.) We have never defined any installation userids on any SE. The only users defined are the standard IBM supplied one. Are you saying, if we defined at least a few of our own, we could have multiple 'sysprogs' logged on simultaneously? . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 9:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL I think you mean user like SooSysprog. Soo means Single Object Operations. This is complex issue, and it is fixed in 2.15 (z15 machines) - I know that from guy who is part of HMC/SE development team. Regarding z14 and older HMC levels the devil is in user table. 1. Some people do not define users and use pre-defined one like SYSPROG, OPER, SERVICE, etc. Sometimes even with default passwords. ;-) It's not worth further investigation. 2. Some people use LDAP, let's ignore it for clarity. 3. Some people do define custom userids, preferably each person has its own userid. However there is some "gotcha" here. You define users in HMC. HMC, but not SE. SE has still its own, predefined set of users. What happens when user JOHN1 defined as clone of SYSPROG logs on HMC? He is JOHN1. What about single object operations? Well, SE doesn not know JOHN1. However SE knows and trust HMC. In that case JOHN1 will be mapped to SooSYSPROG, which is SYSPROG equivalent. So, JOHN1 may manage SE. My recommendation is to repeat user definition on each SE and HMC in your shop. Of course there is no requirement all users have to be equally defined. However the above ...has no meaning for your issue. Why? Because of locked resource. SE object is busy and that's why any other person cannot perform SOO. The same apply for for many other objects in SE and HMC. Regarding Service Mode - I see no cons against IPL during this time. Note, IPL has very little to do with SE. Yes, SE initiate IPL process, but it is very limited. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 28.05.2020 o 17:33, Jesse 1 Robinson pisze: > We have remote access to HMC/SE. We can perform most actions remotely, > but in one area we're stuck--unless something has changed. Only one > individual can log on to an SE at one time because the userid > generated is SOOxxx based on the function being exercised. When that > userid is logged on, subsequent accesses to the SE are denied. If an > SE/CEC has been left in Service Mode by a remote user, I'm not sure > how one would get int to turn it off. (Now that I think about it, that > action may be disallowed.) > > I am curious about the original question: re-IPL while in Service Mode. > Whether it's a good idea, is it even possible? > > . > . > J.O.Skip Robinson > Southern California Edison Company > Electric Dragon Team Paddler > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW > robin...@sce.com > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 8:12 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question > > CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL > > Technically, it's easy. Installation policy varies all over the landscape. > IMHO a VPN would address the security issues, but it's not my dog. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on > behalf of R.S. [r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl] > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:26 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question > > You're remote - so what? > Don't you have remote access to HMC? > Well, I established it approx 19 years ago and visit HMC only for > physical maintenance (HMC installation, physical move to other place, > etc.) > > IMHO nowadays it's quite easy and obvious to have remote access to HMC, > system console (via ICC), "local" terminal (also ICC), etc. > No need to visit datacenter. > > Oh, BTW: it is also possible to have HMC remote. Of course that could mean > another HMC which is not free. > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > > > > > > W dniu 27.05.2020 o 17:55, Mark Jacobs pisze: >> Well, most of us are remote (even under normal times). I'm over a 3.5 hours >> drive from where the HMC is physically located. >> >> Mark Jacobs >> >> Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based en
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
I think you mean user like SooSysprog. Soo means Single Object Operations. This is complex issue, and it is fixed in 2.15 (z15 machines) - I know that from guy who is part of HMC/SE development team. Regarding z14 and older HMC levels the devil is in user table. 1. Some people do not define users and use pre-defined one like SYSPROG, OPER, SERVICE, etc. Sometimes even with default passwords. ;-) It's not worth further investigation. 2. Some people use LDAP, let's ignore it for clarity. 3. Some people do define custom userids, preferably each person has its own userid. However there is some "gotcha" here. You define users in HMC. HMC, but not SE. SE has still its own, predefined set of users. What happens when user JOHN1 defined as clone of SYSPROG logs on HMC? He is JOHN1. What about single object operations? Well, SE doesn not know JOHN1. However SE knows and trust HMC. In that case JOHN1 will be mapped to SooSYSPROG, which is SYSPROG equivalent. So, JOHN1 may manage SE. My recommendation is to repeat user definition on each SE and HMC in your shop. Of course there is no requirement all users have to be equally defined. However the above ...has no meaning for your issue. Why? Because of locked resource. SE object is busy and that's why any other person cannot perform SOO. The same apply for for many other objects in SE and HMC. Regarding Service Mode - I see no cons against IPL during this time. Note, IPL has very little to do with SE. Yes, SE initiate IPL process, but it is very limited. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 28.05.2020 o 17:33, Jesse 1 Robinson pisze: We have remote access to HMC/SE. We can perform most actions remotely, but in one area we're stuck--unless something has changed. Only one individual can log on to an SE at one time because the userid generated is SOOxxx based on the function being exercised. When that userid is logged on, subsequent accesses to the SE are denied. If an SE/CEC has been left in Service Mode by a remote user, I'm not sure how one would get int to turn it off. (Now that I think about it, that action may be disallowed.) I am curious about the original question: re-IPL while in Service Mode. Whether it's a good idea, is it even possible? . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 8:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Technically, it's easy. Installation policy varies all over the landscape. IMHO a VPN would address the security issues, but it's not my dog. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of R.S. [r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question You're remote - so what? Don't you have remote access to HMC? Well, I established it approx 19 years ago and visit HMC only for physical maintenance (HMC installation, physical move to other place, etc.) IMHO nowadays it's quite easy and obvious to have remote access to HMC, system console (via ICC), "local" terminal (also ICC), etc. No need to visit datacenter. Oh, BTW: it is also possible to have HMC remote. Of course that could mean another HMC which is not free. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 27.05.2020 o 17:55, Mark Jacobs pisze: Well, most of us are remote (even under normal times). I'm over a 3.5 hours drive from where the HMC is physically located. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:34 AM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 27.05.2020 o 15:14, Mark Jacobs pisze: When the CE places the HMC in service mode will a V XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL command work as expected? == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
An ACSADMIN-like ID can end a task the user SOO'd to the SE is performing and can force the SOO user from the SE. This assumes that you allow remote access for the ACSADMIN-like ID.Bob Original message From: Jesse 1 Robinson Date: 5/28/20 11:33 AM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question We have remote access to HMC/SE. We can perform most actions remotely, but in one area we're stuck--unless something has changed. Only one individual can log on to an SE at one time because the userid generated is SOOxxx based on the function being exercised. When that userid is logged on, subsequent accesses to the SE are denied. If an SE/CEC has been left in Service Mode by a remote user, I'm not sure how one would get int to turn it off. (Now that I think about it, that action may be disallowed.)I am curious about the original question: re-IPL while in Service Mode. Whether it's a good idea, is it even possible?..J.O.Skip RobinsonSouthern California Edison CompanyElectric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager323-715-0595 Mobile626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== newrobin...@sce.com-Original Message-From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J MetzSent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 8:12 AMTo: ibm-m...@listserv.ua.EDUSubject: (External):Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL QuestionCAUTION EXTERNAL EMAILTechnically, it's easy. Installation policy varies all over the landscape. IMHO a VPN would address the security issues, but it's not my dog.--Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metzhttp://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of R.S. [r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl]Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:26 AMTo: ibm-m...@listserv.ua.EDUSubject: Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL QuestionYou're remote - so what?Don't you have remote access to HMC?Well, I established it approx 19 years ago and visit HMC only for physical maintenance (HMC installation, physical move to other place, etc.)IMHO nowadays it's quite easy and obvious to have remote access to HMC, system console (via ICC), "local" terminal (also ICC), etc.No need to visit datacenter.Oh, BTW: it is also possible to have HMC remote. Of course that could mean another HMC which is not free.--Radoslaw SkorupkaLodz, PolandW dniu 27.05.2020 o 17:55, Mark Jacobs pisze:> Well, most of us are remote (even under normal times). I'm over a 3.5 hours drive from where the HMC is physically located.>> Mark Jacobs>> Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email.> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐> On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:34 AM, R.S. wrote:>>> W dniu 27.05.2020 o 15:14, Mark Jacobs pisze:>>>>> When the CE places the HMC in service mode will a V XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL command work as expected?>> My guess: yes.>> However, why don't you change the mode in case of failure of the reIPL?>>>> ->> >>>> Radoslaw Skorupka>> Lodz, Poland>>--For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
We have remote access to HMC/SE. We can perform most actions remotely, but in one area we're stuck--unless something has changed. Only one individual can log on to an SE at one time because the userid generated is SOOxxx based on the function being exercised. When that userid is logged on, subsequent accesses to the SE are denied. If an SE/CEC has been left in Service Mode by a remote user, I'm not sure how one would get int to turn it off. (Now that I think about it, that action may be disallowed.) I am curious about the original question: re-IPL while in Service Mode. Whether it's a good idea, is it even possible? . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 8:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Technically, it's easy. Installation policy varies all over the landscape. IMHO a VPN would address the security issues, but it's not my dog. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of R.S. [r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question You're remote - so what? Don't you have remote access to HMC? Well, I established it approx 19 years ago and visit HMC only for physical maintenance (HMC installation, physical move to other place, etc.) IMHO nowadays it's quite easy and obvious to have remote access to HMC, system console (via ICC), "local" terminal (also ICC), etc. No need to visit datacenter. Oh, BTW: it is also possible to have HMC remote. Of course that could mean another HMC which is not free. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 27.05.2020 o 17:55, Mark Jacobs pisze: > Well, most of us are remote (even under normal times). I'm over a 3.5 hours > drive from where the HMC is physically located. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:34 AM, R.S. > wrote: > >> W dniu 27.05.2020 o 15:14, Mark Jacobs pisze: >> >>> When the CE places the HMC in service mode will a V XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL >>> command work as expected? >> My guess: yes. >> However, why don't you change the mode in case of failure of the reIPL? >> >> - >> >> >> Radoslaw Skorupka >> Lodz, Poland >> -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
Technically, it's easy. Installation policy varies all over the landscape. IMHO a VPN would address the security issues, but it's not my dog. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of R.S. [r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question You're remote - so what? Don't you have remote access to HMC? Well, I established it approx 19 years ago and visit HMC only for physical maintenance (HMC installation, physical move to other place, etc.) IMHO nowadays it's quite easy and obvious to have remote access to HMC, system console (via ICC), "local" terminal (also ICC), etc. No need to visit datacenter. Oh, BTW: it is also possible to have HMC remote. Of course that could mean another HMC which is not free. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 27.05.2020 o 17:55, Mark Jacobs pisze: > Well, most of us are remote (even under normal times). I'm over a 3.5 hours > drive from where the HMC is physically located. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ox-gFnYG_Vc-epC4fQOSwlq1bKTKzoDm0Pn77HE171mKlewhgzJVM4Tyb4DaL-2dsroOnZTfTwICC-JIRsXn0Qnk6uiY9MhZ8_Yn58ZNBXrDMQ2EN6mxdQ1yML48TeUT86pCYhA4QEyCAhMR3dkOeT-ry6WPpw7AXnmOIOB4Ul8u2LoQzFCZgIyVoNAdJafAATUQNd0etam1aZ5HTRUJNhXk7Idp0Z1iCw2EXlNUM2SCFLuPKJxPZl3-RLyNnJAA_xIqJ83JaXHOxMHyGd8e_zaYsQrYaO6wxuxB_uW1LIo-fkPGLkqDO1-WgbHg_iGfSqz4WisyaSTdMZY7IFj7--iSyaxLmPUlrpN3JZU-UcF-KBN9X-z72oSOJhS_OUY8XX9qgyaMMQpedNyqUxYr0WUmytZKfQ5KQEAh_EqzZeQ6TchuU1_-IjjrVAOvzStY/https%3A%2F%2Fapi.protonmail.ch%2Fpks%2Flookup%3Fop%3Dget%26search%3Dmarkjacobs%40protonmail.com > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:34 AM, R.S. > wrote: > >> W dniu 27.05.2020 o 15:14, Mark Jacobs pisze: >> >>> When the CE places the HMC in service mode will a V XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL >>> command work as expected? >> My guess: yes. >> However, why don't you change the mode in case of failure of the reIPL? >> >> - >> >> Radoslaw Skorupka >> Lodz, Poland >> == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Nk0z3Q-oaCDWyALrJ9snrjATsE02x-TM3peQDMmwY0ONeGhap7pfxOA06f2T40QSTj67OtW4KkMx9qK5q_ipdu5IcaY-Hafrx910tLwYMMHpD2HOkESrDB0kcJslveXrNq1LLWzvrl9f34wQ4_n3Vnsl0DGozZHnS-Xg8W6mGQGNhKCWz4r8cnwtUCY_iiHWJUTNMwRwCVc6H0fHT7g5QlE3jtgTNkhKlUr_vRdFbQe093PNDSSsOWepeoGRUWLkeYUmEe6F_qv6MIt0GXjFwjEjI5FxfqbEwJO9yIlIW0Xi4SCNlSrvue8SVynmKKlLNoboHx5fe1yWZBBlkZ_oOVytxcIzK0u0ulD1CoQ0wu0H6PdodDwoxNjqUcpmgDXgAliUbd92oe0YK4pJe8wmzx5inFIDTovE98SxHPPb8GbPS8BURvofSKYZUbJFlwTP/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Nk0z3Q-oaCDWyALrJ9snrjATsE02x-TM3peQDMmwY0ONeGhap7pfxOA06f2T40QSTj67OtW4KkMx9qK5q_ipdu5IcaY-Hafrx910tLwYMMHpD2HOkESrDB0kcJslveXrNq1LLWzvrl9f34wQ4_n3Vnsl0DGozZHnS-Xg8W6mGQGNhKCWz4r8cnwtUCY_iiHWJUTNMwRwCVc6H0fHT7g5QlE3jtgTNkhKlUr_vRdFbQe093PNDSSsOWepeoGRUWLkeYUmEe6F_qv6MIt0GXjFwjEjI5FxfqbEwJO9yIlIW0Xi4SCNlSrvue8SVynmKKlLNoboHx5fe1yWZBBlkZ_oOVytxcIzK0u0ulD1CoQ0wu0H6PdodDwoxNjqUcpmgDXgAliUbd92oe0YK4pJe8wmzx5inFIDTovE98SxHPPb8GbPS8BURvofSKYZUbJFlwTP/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National C
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
To be honest, there are few things which can be done on HMC only locally. Very few. One of them is backup on demand on local media (USB stick, DVD-RAM in the past) and AFAIR some other activities related to external media. However scheduled backup does work on USB stick as well as on ftp (ftps, sftp) server. AFAIK it is also possible to backup on demand to ftp server as well. Things changed when OS/2 based HMC passed away. In those old days there were two flavours of remote access. The "html" one was only for basic subset of features, and the second one was kind of RDP - remote desktop to whole OS/2 screen, including HMC application. Very bandwidth consuming BTW. In this mode HMC application was not aware the user is not local. However some activities like reading IOCP.txt from diskette was tricky: after it was read you had to remove diskette and press ENTER. And OS/2 checked if the floppy drive is empty. However this is 10+ years old history. Now we may have HMC as virtual appliance, in other words no physical PC acting as HMC. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 28.05.2020 o 12:33, Jousma, David pisze: I also work some 300 miles from one of my datacenters. The original question surrounded CE leaving SE in Service mode. I cant answer the question about REIPL, as we havent used that, but if you have remote access to HMC, you should be able to get into single object mode, and turn off Service mode if indeed CE forgot and is actually finished with their work. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** You're remote - so what? Don't you have remote access to HMC? Well, I established it approx 19 years ago and visit HMC only for physical maintenance (HMC installation, physical move to other place, etc.) IMHO nowadays it's quite easy and obvious to have remote access to HMC, system console (via ICC), "local" terminal (also ICC), etc. No need to visit datacenter. Oh, BTW: it is also possible to have HMC remote. Of course that could mean another HMC which is not free. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 27.05.2020 o 17:55, Mark Jacobs pisze: Well, most of us are remote (even under normal times). I'm over a 3.5 hours drive from where the HMC is physically located. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:34 AM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 27.05.2020 o 15:14, Mark Jacobs pisze: When the CE places the HMC in service mode will a V XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL command work as expected? My guess: yes. However, why don't you change the mode in case of failure of the reIPL? - Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully p
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
So not to be pedantic, but it’s the Service Element that controls whether or not the CEC it services is in service mode, not the HMC. If indeed a CE is performing work on the CEC that the SE controls, do you really want to be IPLing it? We could argue all day long. I guess the best suggestion if you really want to know would be for you to pick a time when you know the CEC is not being worked on, place it service mode, and then try the IPL. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** We're a developmental organization and sometimes their work efforts require a system to be ipled ASAP. I was wondering if a V XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL would work during the rare time periods when our CE needs to take the HMC into service mode and while they're working, not if they forget to take it out when done. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:33 AM, Jousma, David <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I also work some 300 miles from one of my datacenters. The original question > surrounded CE leaving SE in Service mode. I cant answer the question about > REIPL, as we havent used that, but if you have remote access to HMC, you > should be able to get into single object mode, and turn off Service mode if > indeed CE forgot and is actually finished with their work. > > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > Rapids, MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of R.S. > > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:26 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question > > CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL > > DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails > > You're remote - so what? > Don't you have remote access to HMC? > Well, I established it approx 19 years ago and visit HMC only for > physical maintenance (HMC installation, physical move to other place, > etc.) > > IMHO nowadays it's quite easy and obvious to have remote access to HMC, > system console (via ICC), "local" terminal (also ICC), etc. > No need to visit datacenter. > > Oh, BTW: it is also possible to have HMC remote. Of course that could mean > another HMC which is not free. > > -- > -- > -- > -- > -- > -- > -- > -- > -- > -- > > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > W dniu 27.05.2020 o 17:55, Mark Jacobs pisze: > > > Well, most of us are remote (even under normal times). I'm over a 3.5 hours > > drive from where the HMC is physically located. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjacobs@proton > > mail.com > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:34 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl > > wrote: > > > > > W dniu 27.05.2020 o 15:14, Mark Jacobs pisze: > > > > > > > When the CE places the HMC in service mode will a V > > > > XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL command work as expected? > > > > My guess: yes. > > > > However, why don't you change the mode in case of failure of the reIPL? > > > > > > Radoslaw Skorupka > > > Lodz, Poland >
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
We're a developmental organization and sometimes their work efforts require a system to be ipled ASAP. I was wondering if a V XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL would work during the rare time periods when our CE needs to take the HMC into service mode and while they're working, not if they forget to take it out when done. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:33 AM, Jousma, David <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I also work some 300 miles from one of my datacenters. The original question > surrounded CE leaving SE in Service mode. I cant answer the question about > REIPL, as we havent used that, but if you have remote access to HMC, you > should be able to get into single object mode, and turn off Service mode if > indeed CE forgot and is actually finished with their work. > > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, > MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of R.S. > > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:26 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question > > CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL > > DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected > emails > > You're remote - so what? > Don't you have remote access to HMC? > Well, I established it approx 19 years ago and visit HMC only for physical > maintenance (HMC installation, physical move to other place, etc.) > > IMHO nowadays it's quite easy and obvious to have remote access to HMC, > system console (via ICC), "local" terminal (also ICC), etc. > No need to visit datacenter. > > Oh, BTW: it is also possible to have HMC remote. Of course that could mean > another HMC which is not free. > > > > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > W dniu 27.05.2020 o 17:55, Mark Jacobs pisze: > > > Well, most of us are remote (even under normal times). I'm over a 3.5 hours > > drive from where the HMC is physically located. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:34 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl > > wrote: > > > > > W dniu 27.05.2020 o 15:14, Mark Jacobs pisze: > > > > > > > When the CE places the HMC in service mode will a V > > > > XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL command work as expected? > > > > My guess: yes. > > > > However, why don't you change the mode in case of failure of the reIPL? > > > > > > Radoslaw Skorupka > > > Lodz, Poland > > == > > Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: > > - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), > - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub > zapisałeś na dysku). > Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może > wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia > (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza > prawo i może podlegać karze. > > mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 > Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. > Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, > NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na > 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. > > If you are not the addressee of this message: > > - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), > - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have > printed out or saved). > This mes
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
I also work some 300 miles from one of my datacenters. The original question surrounded CE leaving SE in Service mode. I cant answer the question about REIPL, as we havent used that, but if you have remote access to HMC, you should be able to get into single object mode, and turn off Service mode if indeed CE forgot and is actually finished with their work. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 6:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** You're remote - so what? Don't you have remote access to HMC? Well, I established it approx 19 years ago and visit HMC only for physical maintenance (HMC installation, physical move to other place, etc.) IMHO nowadays it's quite easy and obvious to have remote access to HMC, system console (via ICC), "local" terminal (also ICC), etc. No need to visit datacenter. Oh, BTW: it is also possible to have HMC remote. Of course that could mean another HMC which is not free. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 27.05.2020 o 17:55, Mark Jacobs pisze: > Well, most of us are remote (even under normal times). I'm over a 3.5 hours > drive from where the HMC is physically located. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:34 AM, R.S. > wrote: > >> W dniu 27.05.2020 o 15:14, Mark Jacobs pisze: >> >>> When the CE places the HMC in service mode will a V XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL >>> command work as expected? >> My guess: yes. >> However, why don't you change the mode in case of failure of the reIPL? >> >> - >> >> Radoslaw Skorupka >> Lodz, Poland >> == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appre
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
You're remote - so what? Don't you have remote access to HMC? Well, I established it approx 19 years ago and visit HMC only for physical maintenance (HMC installation, physical move to other place, etc.) IMHO nowadays it's quite easy and obvious to have remote access to HMC, system console (via ICC), "local" terminal (also ICC), etc. No need to visit datacenter. Oh, BTW: it is also possible to have HMC remote. Of course that could mean another HMC which is not free. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 27.05.2020 o 17:55, Mark Jacobs pisze: Well, most of us are remote (even under normal times). I'm over a 3.5 hours drive from where the HMC is physically located. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:34 AM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 27.05.2020 o 15:14, Mark Jacobs pisze: When the CE places the HMC in service mode will a V XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL command work as expected? My guess: yes. However, why don't you change the mode in case of failure of the reIPL? - Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
Well, most of us are remote (even under normal times). I'm over a 3.5 hours drive from where the HMC is physically located. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:34 AM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 27.05.2020 o 15:14, Mark Jacobs pisze: > > > When the CE places the HMC in service mode will a V XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL > > command work as expected? > > My guess: yes. > However, why don't you change the mode in case of failure of the reIPL? > > - > > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > > > > Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: > > - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), > - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub > zapisałeś na dysku). > Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może > wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia > (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza > prawo i może podlegać karze. > > mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 > Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. > Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, > NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na > 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. > > If you are not the addressee of this message: > > - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), > - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have > printed out or saved). > This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used > exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates > (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the > law and may be penalised. > > mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, > 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for > the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court > Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital > amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HMC in Service Mode, IPL Question
W dniu 27.05.2020 o 15:14, Mark Jacobs pisze: When the CE places the HMC in service mode will a V XCF,,OFFLINE,REIPL command work as expected? My guess: yes. However, why don't you change the mode in case of failure of the reIPL? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
