Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Edward Gould
> On Nov 21, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson > wrote: > > In addition to IEBUPDTE-like utilities, StarTool (and I would hope its CBT > predecessor) has a REPLACE function that can scan an entire PDS(E) and > replace one string with another as long the result does

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 19:14:30 -0600, Edward Gould wrote: >> In days of yore panel definitions for SPF (now known as ISPF) were VB. Abruptly they changed to FB. Disruptively -- it broke all my customized panels. Cognoscenti surmised this was an accommodation to SMP(/E)

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Edward Gould
> On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Have you a more plausible conjecture? If not, I'm sticking with mine. And > the chronology you assume fits with my explanation. > >>> In days of yore panel definitions for SPF (now

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 23:15:14 -0600, Edward Gould wrote: > >> I suspect 1-8 was an intended accommodation to VB. And in another apparent >> accommodation, ISPF Edit until recently would not create an 8-character >> record >> but always padded it with an additional blank. > >I don’t think so as

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 15:32:37 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Assuming the cards with a ./ don't have the correct syntax, why not do an >EXCLUDE ALL, FIND ALL ./. > >EXCLUDE all the correct ./ cards and then do a DEL ALL NX > I asumed he wanted them preserved as data records, not deleted. -- gil

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 8:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IEBUPDTE question Hundred

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Edward Gould
> On Nov 20, 2017, at 10:49 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > > Hundred+ members. As I mentioned (but it got lost in the what is midnight > argument), I used a CBT program to perform the adds. I just modified it to > pass-though the ./ INCLUDE cards as data cards. > > Tony Thigpen >

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Edward Gould
> On Nov 20, 2017, at 8:11 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 19:05:17 -0600, Edward Gould wrote: > >>> On Nov 20, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>> >>> If it were a PDS I'd recommend IEBCOPY and AMATERSE. >> >> It is

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
Hundred+ members. As I mentioned (but it got lost in the what is midnight argument), I used a CBT program to perform the adds. I just modified it to pass-though the ./ INCLUDE cards as data cards. Tony Thigpen Wayne Bickerdike wrote on 11/20/2017 11:39 PM: oops, Change all the unwanted ./

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
oops, Change all the unwanted ./ cards to ## or similar. After the IEBUPDTE, change them back to ./ On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > Assuming the cards with a ./ don't have the correct syntax, why not do an > EXCLUDE ALL, FIND ALL ./. > > EXCLUDE

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Assuming the cards with a ./ don't have the correct syntax, why not do an EXCLUDE ALL, FIND ALL ./. EXCLUDE all the correct ./ cards and then do a DEL ALL NX On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > I need to catalog a bunch of jobs into a PDS during a

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 19:05:17 -0600, Edward Gould wrote: >> On Nov 20, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> >> If it were a PDS I'd recommend IEBCOPY and AMATERSE. > >It is a psuedo standard [the operant adjective is "pseudo" -- gil] for *AGES* >too use iebupdte (or what ever the VM

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Edward Gould
> On Nov 20, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > But it's not a PDS, but Condor will export it in a useless format resembling > IEBUPDTE? > > If it were a PDS I'd recommend IEBCOPY and AMATERSE. > > It appears that the Condor has its

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 12:03:19 -0500, Tony Thigpen wrote: >Condor from Phoenix Systems. Condor uses the ./ INCLUDE card during job >submission. > >We are not getting away from Condor, but I need to move a couple of >CamLibs to MVS PDS libs until I can update to a newer release of Condor >that

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
Condor from Phoenix Systems. Condor uses the ./ INCLUDE card during job submission. We are not getting away from Condor, but I need to move a couple of CamLibs to MVS PDS libs until I can update to a newer release of Condor that supports FTP access. (Condor can pretend that a PDS lib is a

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 22:45:10 -0500, Tony Thigpen wrote: >I need to catalog a bunch of jobs into a PDS during a conversion. The >source system utility creates an IEBUPDTE job for this purpose. > Just curious: what are the "source system" and its "utility"? The "shar" (shell archive) utility, not

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
Thanks all. I have resolved the issue. I extracted PDSLOAD from CBT 316, then modified it to retain the ./ INCLUDE as data cards. (Yes, I need to keep them in the members as such.) Tony Thigpen Wendell Lovewell wrote on 11/20/2017 09:40 AM: Hey Tony, For $1000 a year our Global Search and

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-20 Thread Wendell Lovewell
Hey Tony, For $1000 a year our Global Search and Replace can unload and load a whole PDS, optionally making changes to the members. Maybe not a great one-time solution but a handy tool to have around. You could write a REXX program to read the file and call IEBUPDTE for each member,

Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-19 Thread Arthur
On 19 Nov 2017 19:43:57 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<5a124fc6.3070...@vse2pdf.com>) t...@vse2pdf.com (Tony Thigpen) wrote: Unfortunately, some of the data within these jobs steams contain a './' at the start of the card record. IEBUPDTE thinks they are control cards and