Re: John Eells Item
Thanks Kirk, that helps. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 3:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: John Eells Item I don't speak for IBM, but I read the announcements to say: - z/OS OpenSSH will be a base element in z/OS 2.2, not a separately orderable product. It says that it will initially be the same level as IBM Ported Tools for z/OS 1.3 - OpenSSH, but IBM also makes a SOD about future enhancements such as support for Kerberos (Windows domain SSO). To your other question: Co:Z SFTP uses z/OS OpenSSH for its secure SSH2 connection (whether you call it IBM Ported Tools for z/OS 1.3 - OpenSSH, or whether you call it z/OS OpenSSH (a base element of z/OS 2.2). OpenSSH is an application that uses the z/OS TCP/IP stack.IBM did not announce that z/OS Communications Server would include OpenSSH. For more information on z/OS OpenSSH 1.3, see our SHARE presentation from last week: https://share.confex.com/share/124/webprogram/Session16736.html Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Dazzo, Matt mda...@pch.com wrote: Just to clarify, does the paragraph below mean that the z/OS TCPIP stack will support OpenSSH without having ported tools? We are currently using Cozbatch but would love to be able to use MVS TCPIP for SSH. Thanks Matt z/OS V2.2 is planned to include OpenSSH 6.4p1. This is the same level of OpenSSH included in IBM Ported Tools V1.3.0 (5655-M23), announced in Software Announcement 215-009, dated January 14, 2015. OpenSSH is intended to provide encryption for remote login and file transfer. Also, IBM plans to provide future enhancements to the OpenSSH function included in z/OS (see the Statements of general direction section). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: John Eells Item z/OS 2.2 Supports a Variety of Upgrades by John Eells The z/OS development team has put together a variety of functions meant to leverage new hardware facilities, take better advantage of existing ones, and provide... http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/trends/whatsnew/2-2- favorites/?utm_campaign=ibm- enewsutm_medium=emailutm_source=mainframe-Mar4-roundup-2015- newverutm_content=exclusive1-headline Hopefully this won't split Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: John Eells Item
Just to clarify, does the paragraph below mean that the z/OS TCPIP stack will support OpenSSH without having ported tools? We are currently using Cozbatch but would love to be able to use MVS TCPIP for SSH. Thanks Matt z/OS V2.2 is planned to include OpenSSH 6.4p1. This is the same level of OpenSSH included in IBM Ported Tools V1.3.0 (5655-M23), announced in Software Announcement 215-009, dated January 14, 2015. OpenSSH is intended to provide encryption for remote login and file transfer. Also, IBM plans to provide future enhancements to the OpenSSH function included in z/OS (see the Statements of general direction section). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: John Eells Item z/OS 2.2 Supports a Variety of Upgrades by John Eells The z/OS development team has put together a variety of functions meant to leverage new hardware facilities, take better advantage of existing ones, and provide... http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/trends/whatsnew/2-2- favorites/?utm_campaign=ibm- enewsutm_medium=emailutm_source=mainframe-Mar4-roundup-2015- newverutm_content=exclusive1-headline Hopefully this won't split Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: John Eells Item
I don't speak for IBM, but I read the announcements to say: - z/OS OpenSSH will be a base element in z/OS 2.2, not a separately orderable product. It says that it will initially be the same level as IBM Ported Tools for z/OS 1.3 - OpenSSH, but IBM also makes a SOD about future enhancements such as support for Kerberos (Windows domain SSO). To your other question: Co:Z SFTP uses z/OS OpenSSH for its secure SSH2 connection (whether you call it IBM Ported Tools for z/OS 1.3 - OpenSSH, or whether you call it z/OS OpenSSH (a base element of z/OS 2.2). OpenSSH is an application that uses the z/OS TCP/IP stack.IBM did not announce that z/OS Communications Server would include OpenSSH. For more information on z/OS OpenSSH 1.3, see our SHARE presentation from last week: https://share.confex.com/share/124/webprogram/Session16736.html Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Dazzo, Matt mda...@pch.com wrote: Just to clarify, does the paragraph below mean that the z/OS TCPIP stack will support OpenSSH without having ported tools? We are currently using Cozbatch but would love to be able to use MVS TCPIP for SSH. Thanks Matt z/OS V2.2 is planned to include OpenSSH 6.4p1. This is the same level of OpenSSH included in IBM Ported Tools V1.3.0 (5655-M23), announced in Software Announcement 215-009, dated January 14, 2015. OpenSSH is intended to provide encryption for remote login and file transfer. Also, IBM plans to provide future enhancements to the OpenSSH function included in z/OS (see the Statements of general direction section). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: John Eells Item z/OS 2.2 Supports a Variety of Upgrades by John Eells The z/OS development team has put together a variety of functions meant to leverage new hardware facilities, take better advantage of existing ones, and provide... http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/trends/whatsnew/2-2- favorites/?utm_campaign=ibm- enewsutm_medium=emailutm_source=mainframe-Mar4-roundup-2015- newverutm_content=exclusive1-headline Hopefully this won't split Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: John Eells Item
On 5 March 2015 at 06:24, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Ray Pearce wrote: The 'query string' part of a URL starts with a question mark with parts of the query separated by ampersands. In the original url, every query parameter starts with utm_ This is a clue that they are Urchin Tracking Module codes and are only used for analysis of the origin of the request. Almost any url that include utm_ parameters can have them removed with no ill effect My, oh my! Interesting! Thanks for this lesson. Great! I wish I could steal your brain and throw away mine, but this is somewhat risky. Perfect timing... And it's not quite Friday here. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530103.700-first-human-head-transplant-could-happen-in-two-years.html Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: John Eells Item
Ray Pearce wrote: The 'query string' part of a URL starts with a question mark with parts of the query separated by ampersands. In the original url, every query parameter starts with utm_ This is a clue that they are Urchin Tracking Module codes and are only used for analysis of the origin of the request. Almost any url that include utm_ parameters can have them removed with no ill effect My, oh my! Interesting! Thanks for this lesson. Great! I wish I could steal your brain and throw away mine, but this is somewhat risky. (apart from a few marketeers who would like to know where you found the link) I'm chronically allergic to these marketeers... ;-) ... and I don't want to be cured, thank you... Thanks Ray for your kind posts. You have made my day! Please keep up with your posts. I learn from them. Thanks! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: John Eells Item
Ray Pearce wrote: The url was made worse by the totally redundant query string on the end of it. The only part needed to access the page is: http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/trends/whatsnew/2-2-favorites Interesting. Now, beside navigating from the home page up to http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/ where you can see the link to that article, how do you know where and when to cut off the long URL for posting to others? Of course I could navigate from the home page, look around and the come to the right article. [1] and as this is less than 72 characters it is unlikely to be split (famous last words) Ok, you have the last word. ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht [1] - I usually don't bother to go to the home page and do navigating without a compass ;-), but jump right into the page and after browsing, simply close it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: John Eells Item
In f8ca1c52-7366-4489-8fb7-9a7c31566...@comcast.net, on 03/04/2015 at 11:44 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Looks good. http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/trends/whatsnew/2-2- favorites/?utm_campaign=ibm- enewsutm_medium=emailutm_source=mainframe-Mar4-roundup-2015- newverutm_content=exclusive1-headline You've got the framing reversed; some e-mail clients may have trouble with that. Hopefully this won't split It did; even though you had format=flowed, it came out as multiple lisgns with no trailin = to mark continuation. My e-mail software could handle it, but it's definitely not what I expected. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: John Eells Item
The url was made worse by the totally redundant query string on the end of it. The only part needed to access the page is: http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/trends/whatsnew/2-2-favorites and as this is less than 72 characters it is unlikely to be split (famous last words) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: 05 March 2015 09:39 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: John Eells Item In f8ca1c52-7366-4489-8fb7-9a7c31566...@comcast.net, on 03/04/2015 at 11:44 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Looks good. http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/trends/whatsnew/2-2- favorites/?utm_campaign=ibm- enewsutm_medium=emailutm_source=mainframe-Mar4-roundup-2015- newverutm_content=exclusive1-headline You've got the framing reversed; some e-mail clients may have trouble with that. Hopefully this won't split It did; even though you had format=flowed, it came out as multiple lisgns with no trailin = to mark continuation. My e-mail software could handle it, but it's definitely not what I expected. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by Postini / Google Message Security and the UNICOM Global security systems. This message is for the named person's use only. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: John Eells Item
The 'query string' part of a URL starts with a question mark with parts of the query separated by ampersands. In the original url, every query parameter starts with utm_ This is a clue that they are Urchin Tracking Module codes and are only used for analysis of the origin of the request. Almost any url that include utm_ parameters can have them removed with no ill effect (apart from a few marketeers who would like to know where you found the link) Ray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: 05 March 2015 10:45 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: John Eells Item Ray Pearce wrote: The url was made worse by the totally redundant query string on the end of it. The only part needed to access the page is: http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/trends/whatsnew/2-2-favorites Interesting. Now, beside navigating from the home page up to http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/ where you can see the link to that article, how do you know where and when to cut off the long URL for posting to others? Of course I could navigate from the home page, look around and the come to the right article. [1] and as this is less than 72 characters it is unlikely to be split (famous last words) Ok, you have the last word. ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht [1] - I usually don't bother to go to the home page and do navigating without a compass ;-), but jump right into the page and after browsing, simply close it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by Postini / Google Message Security and the UNICOM Global security systems. This message is for the named person's use only. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
