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on 01/31/2014
at 03:25 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said:
The original corps of IT folks came from the 'business side'.
They were accountants and process people who learned how to use
computers to accomplish
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:25:33 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote:
Is there some other occupation
or avocation that mimics what we do?
Music?
About 30 years ago, when I worked at Amdahl, they were looking for entry level
people. High on the short list of qualifications that they were interested in
And how did that work out ?
I know a project where the guy sang a great tune to get the top job but
his project management was rubbish.
End result: project way behind and he has been moved out to where his
'talents' are better utilised.
-Hank
I was fortunate enough to be in the right place at the right time to get into
mainframe systems programming diretly out of college in 1998. At a local job
fair, I spoke to a recruiter that told me if I like to get into the guts of
the operating system and I am willing to learn mainframe then I
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jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
From: Stephen Bielskie stephen.biels...@credit-suisse.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
Date: 01/31/2014 08:47 AM
Subject:Re: OT: Entry Level System Programmer Job
On 14Jan31:1525-0800, Skip Robinson wrote:
Is there some other occupation or avocation that mimics what we do?
Medical doctors.
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not cent from sell
May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!
Dave_Craig__
So the universe is not quite as
Agreed. If it's really an Entry-Level position, any initial knowledge
of System Programming tasks is not nearly as important as an insatiable
curiosity about how software and hardware works and a demonstrated
general aptitude for understanding computer hardware and programming.
By the time I was
Requirement #1. Applicant must have z/OS operations experience.
Text of the 4th Ammendment to the U.S. Constitution.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
and no Warrants shall
PhD in Computer Science, 3 yrs related experience, under 25 yrs of age!
In a message dated 1/30/2014 10:29:23 A.M. Central Standard Time,
mw...@ssfcu.org writes:
description that you would be willing to share?
--
For
Hum, I would have failed to get my first job. I came out of college
directly into systems. I as applying for a programming job. I had
apparently talked myself out of a number of them. At the place that hired
me, I could see the programming managers eyes glazing over, again. He told
me to wait a
1. Graduated from SHARE Assembler Boot Camp.
2. Read and understood the contents of Advanced Assembler Language and MVS
Interfaces for IBM Systems and Application Programmers by Carmine A.
Cannatello.
3. Fluent in z/OS operator commands.
4. Can IPL a z/OS system.
Regards,
John K
John P Kalinich wrote:
1. Graduated from SHARE Assembler Boot Camp.
2. Read and understood the contents of Advanced Assembler Language and MVS
Interfaces for IBM Systems and Application Programmers by Carmine A.
Cannatello.
3. Fluent in z/OS operator commands.
4. Can IPL a z/OS system.
IMO, you
] On Behalf
Of John McKown
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:48 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: OT: Entry Level System Programmer Job Description
Hum, I would have failed to get my first job. I came out of college directly
into systems.
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: Re: OT: Entry Level System Programmer Job Description
I think it is well established that you are unique. You are the only person
who has ever gone directly from college into systems programming. How cool!!
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe
The least knowledgable sysprog should know ops better than
the best operator, IMHO, even if he's not in the call
rotation yet.
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May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!
Dave_Craig__
So the universe is not quite as you
Additional requirements:
1. Define USS in all contexts.
2. Explain the merits and deficiencies of system symbols.
3. Write authorized programs that perform unauthorized functions, and
more importantly vice versa.
4. Create a new linklist, modify it, delete it, create a new one, repeat
5 times.
8. Determine which of John Gilmore's typos are actually typos. LOLROTF!!!
Richard and Vickie Pinion
--- tonybabo...@icloud.com wrote:
From: Tony Babonas tonybabo...@icloud.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: OT: Entry Level System Programmer Job Description
Date
I didn't go to college. Straight into System Programming from High School.
Spent my first week on the job in the punch pool learning how to work an
029.
Alan Field
Technical Engineer Principal
BCBS Minnesota
Phone: 651.662.3546 Mobile: 651.428.8826
I think it is well established
And the winner is...
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Tony Babonas
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:41 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Alan Field
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:52 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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I didn't go to college. Straight into System Programming
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Rouse, Willie
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:55 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: OT: Entry Level System Programmer Job Description
I got my first systems programming job on a Work Study Grant in college.
Respectfully,
Willie C. Rouse
Senior
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