Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:43:52 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > 5. No memory pricing for any of the 7 dwarves (BUNCH, RCA and General > Electric), >Bendix, Data General, DEC, PB, Philco, SDS, Sylvania, TRW or the major > European manufacturers. > The DEC PDP-6 was relentlessly asynchronous (

Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
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Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-16 Thread Phil Smith III
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Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 00:46:00 -0500, Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. wrote: >2 digit years I recall a shop who throughout the 70's implemented 1 digit >year dates across their files because of the precious cost and availability of >DASD space. In 1979, someone there took are hard look at what th

Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-15 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds > foremoms and foredads Some of us were there at the time. I've lost track of the number of times that I've criticized something only to be accused, decades later, of only having "

Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
If you don't like binarythen there's unsigned packed decimal. The code to convert between packed decimal and unsigned packed decimal is not exactly rocket science. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion L

Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds It's a modern day cottage indus

Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
> IBM 701 with 2048, later 4095 36 bit word ITYM 4096 The Williams Tube was one of those technologies that I was too young to know about, for which I am grateful. > two digit dates and Packed Decimal It's not that hard to used unsigned packed decimal for a three digit year in two bytes. --

Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-15 Thread Matthew Stitt
I worked at such company that had 1 digit years. The routine(s) to keep them straight across the decades I never did fully understand. OTOH, I also worked at a small Insurance company. The best (non) joke was when a client called regarding a new build discount she was getting on her house. T

Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-15 Thread Mike Schwab
I interned in a catalog sales company in the marketing department in 1984. Used 1 digit year and purged sales data over 6 years old. On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 12:46 AM Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. wrote: > > 2 digit years I recall a shop who throughout the 70's implemented 1 digit > year date

Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-14 Thread Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD.
2 digit years I recall a shop who throughout the 70's implemented 1 digit year dates across their files because of the precious cost and availability of DASD space. In 1979, someone there took are hard look at what the future held in store. So they did a full conversion project and changed a

Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-14 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 14 Aug 2019 15:50:58 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main jesse1.robin...@sce.com (Jesse 1 Robinson) wrote: >It's a modern day cottage industry--or hobby maybe--to excoriate our foremoms >and foredads for the reckless choice they made decades ago to store dates in >two-digit format. Maki

Re: Reason for 2 digit years was Re: Instruction speeds

2019-08-14 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
It's a modern day cottage industry--or hobby maybe--to excoriate our foremoms and foredads for the reckless choice they made decades ago to store dates in two-digit format. Making our lives miserable in the process. OTOH I remember reading some diary excerpts from US Civil War soldiers who routi