Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Steve Thompson
equ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 12:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column I am constantly amazed at how much this whole “zero trust” meme is violating the concept of sharing everything among application developers. I for one have no qualms about any

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
m: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 11:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 11:02:07 +, Rob Scott wrote: >... >As to "why don't you just fix it ?"tstyle question

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-05 Thread Mike Schwab
d of all the auditors, the > > lawyers are easy to deal with compared to them. > > > > Peter > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > > Of Paul Gilmartin > > Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 11:02 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > S

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-05 Thread Colin Paice
first get rid of all the auditors, the > lawyers are easy to deal with compared to them. > > Peter > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 11:02 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column > &

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-05 Thread Farley, Peter
Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 11:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 11:02:07 +, Rob Scott wrote: >... >As to "why don't you just fix it ?"tstyle questions, we have t

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 11:02:07 +, Rob Scott wrote: >... >As to "why don't you just fix it ?"tstyle questions, we have to consider quite >a few compatibility issues across n-2 releases especially when the "fix" >requires changes to configuration and security ... > Such as users' embedding

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-05 Thread Rob Scott
o configuration and security for either (or both of) the SDSF server(s) and client users. Rob Scott Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Perryman Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 3:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS C

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-04 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 10:04:05 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 21:47:56 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >>Agree to disagree. I haven't checked the doc and maybe it isn't documented >>that that field or >>any field is limited to 40 characters, but it is not a bug to be fixed. >> >I

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-04 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 09:24:07 +, Rob Scott wrote: >SDSF calls the BPXEKDA service returns truncated command information. Since BPXEKDA doesn't need the OMVS segment for the first 40 bytes of the command, why does it need it for the rest of the command? Isn't it just a null terminated field

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 21:47:56 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: > >Agree to disagree. I haven't checked the doc and maybe it isn't documented >that that field or >any field is limited to 40 characters, but it is not a bug to be fixed. It >could be enhanced >in the service stream, but it is most

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 23:37:20 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 15:55:26 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: > >>On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:30:39 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >> >>>Is there any way to get more than the first 40 characters of the associated >>>command line for a job in the PS

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 16:20:54 +, Rob Scott wrote: >The desire to avoid dubbing was purely down to requiring an OMVS segment for >the SDSF user. > Hadn't there long been default UID, and later automatic unique UID? But those might have wisely been defined lacking privileges needed by SDSF.

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-03 Thread Rob Scott
Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 3:25:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Co

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 09:24:07 +, Rob Scott wrote: >... When the PS command was originally written OMVS segments were not > commonplace and the design goal was to provide the data without being dubbed > ... > What is the penalty associated with dubbing? Would it be possible or even

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-03 Thread Rob Scott
<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 5:37:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column EX

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 15:55:26 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:30:39 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > >>Is there any way to get more than the first 40 characters of the associated >>command line for a job in the PS screen? > >Limited to 40 characters. regardless of what you put in

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:30:39 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >Is there any way to get more than the first 40 characters of the associated >command line for a job in the PS screen? > > Limited to 40 characters. regardless of what you put in arrange. (someone can open an enhancement request)

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-02 Thread Frank Swarbrick
If only I had superuser access! Frank From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 1:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column You will need to issue the `ps -ef` command while

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-02 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I tried D OMVS,A=ALL and it (CMD) is also truncated at 40.  oh well! From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jon Perryman Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 1:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 13

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-02 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
t: Friday, February 2, 2024 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 13:53:54 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Perhaps someone who knows the internals could help out here. It's unlikely someone here will know the internals to PS command in SDSF

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-02 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 13:53:54 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Perhaps someone who knows the internals could help out here. It's unlikely someone here will know the internals to PS command in SDSF because it's designed for those who avoid UNIX. 40 bytes for a UNIX command can be very small when it

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-02 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 1:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column This both works and does

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-02 Thread Frank Swarbrick
, February 2, 2024 12:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column In the menu bar click View then Arrange and then find Command in the popup table and change the width. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://d

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-02 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.”   - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Comma

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-02 Thread Frank Swarbrick
iday, February 2, 2024 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column Hi, If you type "/", a panel will pop up with more space to type commands Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em sexta-feira, 2 de fevereiro de 2024 às 16:

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-02 Thread Ituriel do Neto
Hi, If you type "/", a panel will pop up with more space to type commands Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em sexta-feira, 2 de fevereiro de 2024 às 16:30:56 BRT, Frank Swarbrick escreveu: Is there any way to get more than the first 40 characters of