Re: Track PDS/PS Changes
I think that is too general a question. Do you mean the external attributes? do you mean the data inside the file? Could you clarify? And when you say track? What specifically are you looking for. I know you said general, but there is not really a general answer without understanding what you are trying to report on. There are many solutions depending on what you want to do. Some from no-cost to expensive. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of mf db Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Track PDS/PS Changes Hello All, Is there a way to track the changes made on a PDS member or PS files. My question is just general and Want to know if there is any feature within Z/OS which can help me to track the changes. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Track PDS/PS Changes
On 9/9/2013 12:14 PM, mf db wrote: Is there a way to track the changes made on a PDS member or PS files. My question is just general and Want to know if there is any feature within Z/OS which can help me to track the changes. Other than the access date in the DSCB, and directory entry dates in ISPF edited members, there is no formal support. SMF data provide some information (see DAF on cbttaoe.org), but mainly things are data set, not member, oriented. However, there are commercial products for tracking modifications. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, Vermont -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Track PDS/PS Changes
Thanks for responding. yes My intention is to track the Data Changes. On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: I think that is too general a question. Do you mean the external attributes? do you mean the data inside the file? Could you clarify? And when you say track? What specifically are you looking for. I know you said general, but there is not really a general answer without understanding what you are trying to report on. There are many solutions depending on what you want to do. Some from no-cost to expensive. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of mf db Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Track PDS/PS Changes Hello All, Is there a way to track the changes made on a PDS member or PS files. My question is just general and Want to know if there is any feature within Z/OS which can help me to track the changes. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Track PDS/PS Changes
I seem to remember a product: Change Action (from http://www.actionsoftware.com/). It seems to be called eventAction now. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of mf db Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Track PDS/PS Changes Hello All, Is there a way to track the changes made on a PDS member or PS files. My question is just general and Want to know if there is any feature within Z/OS which can help me to track the changes. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Track PDS/PS Changes
On 2013-09-09 12:55, Jakubek, Jan wrote: I seem to remember a product: Change Action (fromhttp://www.actionsoftware.com/). It seems to be called eventAction now. Yes, Change Action was renamed to eventACTION. As the product grew to track much more than changes, the old name ceased to be representative. eventACTION will perform the tracking you are looking for. I won't say more here, because this list does not welcome marketing, but you can obtain the contact information from http://www.actionsoftware.com/ to investigate further. HTH. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Track PDS/PS Changes
So you are probably looking at something like a CHANGEMAN or ENDEVOR product. Those are for Source code changes, but I am guessing this is what you are looking for in general. If the files are source, then look at CA PDSMAN. You can have PDSMAN monitor PDS datasets for source code changes and keep a before and after copy of the data. Otherwise, I am not aware of anything for SEQ, VSAM or other than PDS/PDSE files; this may be a roll your own process. I have seen shops where DB2 functions would manually track changes, but they wrote that code themselves. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of mf db Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Track PDS/PS Changes Thanks for responding. yes My intention is to track the Data Changes. On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: I think that is too general a question. Do you mean the external attributes? do you mean the data inside the file? Could you clarify? And when you say track? What specifically are you looking for. I know you said general, but there is not really a general answer without understanding what you are trying to report on. There are many solutions depending on what you want to do. Some from no-cost to expensive. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of mf db Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Track PDS/PS Changes Hello All, Is there a way to track the changes made on a PDS member or PS files. My question is just general and Want to know if there is any feature within Z/OS which can help me to track the changes. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Track PDS/PS Changes
The biggest problem, IMO, is that most tracking is done by comparing snapshots. If the OP needs to know exactly which user/job/program made which changes to a given data set (on a record or byte level), that is a very big can of worms. z/OS does not have a change log which tracks this type of information like DB2 can do to data bases. On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: So you are probably looking at something like a CHANGEMAN or ENDEVOR product. Those are for Source code changes, but I am guessing this is what you are looking for in general. If the files are source, then look at CA PDSMAN. You can have PDSMAN monitor PDS datasets for source code changes and keep a before and after copy of the data. Otherwise, I am not aware of anything for SEQ, VSAM or other than PDS/PDSE files; this may be a roll your own process. I have seen shops where DB2 functions would manually track changes, but they wrote that code themselves. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of mf db Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Track PDS/PS Changes Thanks for responding. yes My intention is to track the Data Changes. On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: I think that is too general a question. Do you mean the external attributes? do you mean the data inside the file? Could you clarify? And when you say track? What specifically are you looking for. I know you said general, but there is not really a general answer without understanding what you are trying to report on. There are many solutions depending on what you want to do. Some from no-cost to expensive. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of mf db Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Track PDS/PS Changes Hello All, Is there a way to track the changes made on a PDS member or PS files. My question is just general and Want to know if there is any feature within Z/OS which can help me to track the changes. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- As of next week, passwords will be entered in Morse code. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Track PDS/PS Changes
SMF 18 records changes to PDS members that involve a STOW or similar API. They record the userid and so forth but not the data itself. They are not bulletproof in that there are a variety of ways a programmer can write a program to modify a PDS(E) that do not generate an SMF 18. MXG etc. can report on SMF 18. If you by any chance are interested in real-time alerting please write me off-line. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of mf db Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Track PDS/PS Changes Hello All, Is there a way to track the changes made on a PDS member or PS files. My question is just general and Want to know if there is any feature within Z/OS which can help me to track the changes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
