Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 14:38:29 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 11/24/2020 8:35 AM, Elaine Beal wrote: >> I thought you had to have the new parm but i can ALLOC a new dsn under >> another id without it. > >New is the default in JCL. Maybe on ALLOC too! > From: z/OS: TSO/E Command Reference (They don't

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-12-04 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 11/24/2020 8:35 AM, Elaine Beal wrote: I thought you had to have the new parm but i can ALLOC a new dsn under another id without it. New is the default in JCL. Maybe on ALLOC too! -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-12-04 Thread Mike Wawiorko
A little bit of return code checking from ALLOCATE commands? Mike Wawiorko   This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee, or have received this

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-12-03 Thread Bruce Hewson
some thoughts. SYSDSN() use of disp MOD confirm ALIAS exists Use REXX to OUTTRAP the various TSO commands, and analyze the results in code. Regards Bruce -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-12-03 Thread Elaine Beal
so... I have looked at every dsn in the logon proc SYSPROC and SYSEXEC i found two places where the 'offending' dataset is being allocated new, including the one that issues the error messages I inserted a CONTROL LIST CONLIST SYMLIST MSG and a listcat and I see no output when logging on to the

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-11-30 Thread Elaine Beal
so now I've got a lead on our good friend SMS :( which of course hasn't changed in 2 years. looks like maybe storclas isn't being defined -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-11-30 Thread Elaine Beal
Gil, thanks. I do get that message but when I do a listcat, the mastcat and usercat look correct. They look the same as other previously defined users. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-11-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
to ALLOC dsn without new I would put a LISTC ENT for the dataset before the allocation If RC > 0 Then write out some diagnostics Not sure why people are still writing in CLIST rather than using REXX. But to each their own Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discuss

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-11-24 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:35:40 -0600, Elaine Beal wrote: >I give up :), asking for help > >Defining a new user and logon proc issues > >SET = >ALLOC FI(ISPPROF) SHR DA('') > >the dsn is new and evidently the alloc fails > >but i can manually alloc a new dsn without the new parm (under

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-11-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
I would put a LISTC ENT for the dataset before the allocation If RC > 0 Then write out some diagnostics Not sure why people are still writing in CLIST rather than using REXX. But to each their own Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Elaine

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-11-24 Thread Elaine Beal
aarrgghh. sorry about that one too. RACF profiles are created correctly -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-11-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new sorry, yes, there is an alias defined -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-11-24 Thread Elaine Beal
sorry, yes, there is an alias defined -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-11-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
First, check whether the userid is an alias to a user catalog. Second, if you don't already have a dialog for creating a ne user, I recommend that you write one to automate everything. It's generally easier to diagnose problems under TSO if you enable all output, e.g., PROFILE MSGID WTPMSG.;

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-11-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:35:40 -0600, Elaine Beal wrote: >... >ALLOC FI(ISPPROF) SHR DA('gayleyc.isptabl') > DATA SET GAYLEYC.ISPTABL NOT IN CATALOG OR CATALOG CAN NOT BE ACCESSED > ENTER DATA SET NAME - > This is

Re: Unable to ALLOC dsn without new

2020-11-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:35:40 -0600, Elaine Beal wrote: >... >ALLOC FI(ISPPROF) SHR DA('gayleyc.isptabl') > DATA SET GAYLEYC.ISPTABL NOT IN CATALOG OR CATALOG CAN NOT BE ACCESSED > ENTER DATA SET NAME - > Do you