Re: extracting "*.pax.Z" without USS

2023-09-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 09:50:06 -0400, william giannelli wrote:

>I downloaded the files to my laptop. but they didnt appear as "zipped" file
>with the .Z
>I tried renaming the file with a ".zip" extension but that made the file
>unreadable.
>
On both MacOS and Linux I extracted a .pax.Z file generated on z/OS
with  "pax -vvzr NL twiddle.  (MacOS doesn't grok EBCDIC.)
(UTF-8 might have been better.)

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Re: extracting "*.pax.Z" without USS

2023-09-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 09:50:06 -0400, william giannelli wrote:

>I downloaded the files to my laptop. but they didnt appear as "zipped" file
>with the .Z
>
What OS?  That's probably more important than the hardware.

>I tried renaming the file with a ".zip" extension but that made the file
>unreadable.
> 
That probably makes it worse.

What's the provenance of the .pax.Z?
OMVS will create a POSIX-compressed file with "pax -zw"
Most desktop systems will create a deflated (gzip) file with "pax -zw".

Linux et al. will  automatically detect deflated format and inflate it,
but won't recognize the POSIX compressed.  However, "pax -rz"
will expand either deflated or POSIX compressed files.

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Re: extracting "*.pax.Z" without USS

2023-09-09 Thread Grant Taylor

On 9/9/23 8:50 AM, william giannelli wrote:

I tried renaming the file with a ".zip" extension but that made the file
unreadable.


That's because ".Z" is "compress(ed)" file format which is different 
than ".zip" which is "zip" file format.


They are two very different things.

.Z is not just a permutation of .zip as a file extension.



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Re: extracting "*.pax.Z" without USS

2023-09-09 Thread Mike Schwab
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_(command)
PAX was on Windows NT and 2000.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install
Linux on Windows is available.

On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 8:50 AM william giannelli
 wrote:
>
> I downloaded the files to my laptop. but they didnt appear as "zipped" file
> with the .Z
> I tried renaming the file with a ".zip" extension but that made the file
> unreadable.
>
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul Gilmartin <
> 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 07:19:52 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote:
> >
> > >I currently do not have access to USS and need to extract *.PAX.Z files.
> > >Can I upload as a regular file and extract it without using USS?
> > >
> > Probably not.
> >
> > Would a desktop solution be acceptable?  Perhaps WinZip or Linux "pax -z".
> >
> > No access to USS?  Is that administrative tyranny?
> >
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Re: extracting "*.pax.Z" without USS

2023-09-09 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www.lbdsoftware.com/omvs.html
Does any of this help?
Maybe he can write something?

On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 8:50 AM william giannelli
 wrote:
>
> I downloaded the files to my laptop. but they didnt appear as "zipped" file
> with the .Z
> I tried renaming the file with a ".zip" extension but that made the file
> unreadable.
>
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul Gilmartin <
> 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 07:19:52 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote:
> >
> > >I currently do not have access to USS and need to extract *.PAX.Z files.
> > >Can I upload as a regular file and extract it without using USS?
> > >
> > Probably not.
> >
> > Would a desktop solution be acceptable?  Perhaps WinZip or Linux "pax -z".
> >
> > No access to USS?  Is that administrative tyranny?
> >
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Re: extracting "*.pax.Z" without USS

2023-09-09 Thread Colin Paice
On Linux  *pax -r  -z  -f  Downloads/HAMB3B0.nonsmpe.pax.Z*  unzipped it
for me.

Some of the z/OS pax options set the attribute bits - such as APF
authorised etc, so this may not work if you unzip off z/OS and FTP them up.
Colin

On Sat, 9 Sept 2023 at 14:50, william giannelli 
wrote:

> I downloaded the files to my laptop. but they didnt appear as "zipped" file
> with the .Z
> I tried renaming the file with a ".zip" extension but that made the file
> unreadable.
>
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul Gilmartin <
> 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 07:19:52 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote:
> >
> > >I currently do not have access to USS and need to extract *.PAX.Z files.
> > >Can I upload as a regular file and extract it without using USS?
> > >
> > Probably not.
> >
> > Would a desktop solution be acceptable?  Perhaps WinZip or Linux "pax
> -z".
> >
> > No access to USS?  Is that administrative tyranny?
> >
> > --
> > gil
> >
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Re: extracting "*.pax.Z" without USS

2023-09-09 Thread Rob Schramm
Try 7zip or WinRAR.  Default windows won't do it.

Rob

On Sat, Sep 9, 2023, 09:50 william giannelli 
wrote:

> I downloaded the files to my laptop. but they didnt appear as "zipped" file
> with the .Z
> I tried renaming the file with a ".zip" extension but that made the file
> unreadable.
>
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul Gilmartin <
> 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 07:19:52 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote:
> >
> > >I currently do not have access to USS and need to extract *.PAX.Z files.
> > >Can I upload as a regular file and extract it without using USS?
> > >
> > Probably not.
> >
> > Would a desktop solution be acceptable?  Perhaps WinZip or Linux "pax
> -z".
> >
> > No access to USS?  Is that administrative tyranny?
> >
> > --
> > gil
> >
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Re: extracting "*.pax.Z" without USS

2023-09-09 Thread william giannelli
I downloaded the files to my laptop. but they didnt appear as "zipped" file
with the .Z
I tried renaming the file with a ".zip" extension but that made the file
unreadable.

On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul Gilmartin <
042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 07:19:52 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote:
>
> >I currently do not have access to USS and need to extract *.PAX.Z files.
> >Can I upload as a regular file and extract it without using USS?
> >
> Probably not.
>
> Would a desktop solution be acceptable?  Perhaps WinZip or Linux "pax -z".
>
> No access to USS?  Is that administrative tyranny?
>
> --
> gil
>
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Re: extracting "*.pax.Z" without USS

2023-09-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 07:19:52 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote:

>I currently do not have access to USS and need to extract *.PAX.Z files.
>Can I upload as a regular file and extract it without using USS?
>
Probably not.

Would a desktop solution be acceptable?  Perhaps WinZip or Linux "pax -z".

No access to USS?  Is that administrative tyranny?

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