Re: DFDSS Restore ADMIN PARM

2010-03-31 Thread Les Koehler
Couldn't your ESM just be a NOP program, just for such situations? Les Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 03/30/2010 at 04:57 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote: Thanks Alan. BTW, the floor system at our Hot Site does not have RACF nor for that matter any other

Re: ACM award

2010-03-31 Thread Les Koehler
I seem to remember, around 1981, seeing a demonstration of an experimental PROFS at Yorktown Heights. IBM had just opened the Special Planned Programs facility in Tampa to get back into the timeshare market and we were considering their PROFS as our offering. I even had a copy of PROFS source

Re: ACM award

2010-03-31 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: You mean VMware isn't a clothing line?? I sometimes spell it VMwear.   And like you, Jim - I'm quick to correct anyone who thinks about using just 'VM' to refer to their little upstart virtualization product. Oh,

Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Kris Buelens
I think I found a bug in the behaviour of an OSA ICC: Experienced CMS programmers know that to start tracing a looping XEDIT macro can be done by entering a TS command in the command area. But, first one needs to get the commandline. A bit difficult as the 3270 is in input inhibited (a green

Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Richard Troth
ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other real 3270s and like LDEV. On 2010-03-31, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: I think I found a bug in the behaviour of an OSA ICC: Experienced CMS programmers know that to start tracing a looping XEDIT macro can

Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Richard Troth
[oopppsss - try again] ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other real 3270s and like LDEV. That's a whole nutha discussion. But ... does PCOMM not have an immediate PA1? (I'm not used to an ATTN sequence for PA1.) You wouldn't get the trace, but you'd get

Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Kris Buelens
Sorry, not related to HOLD at LOGOFF for example (to CP it appears as a real 3270, hence no HOLD operand). It is pure 3270 behaviour, not even really related to VM: how can one break in when in input inhibited I am in fullscreen XEDIT, hence the linemode command input area is not available.

Re: ACM award

2010-03-31 Thread Kris Buelens
Makes me remember a small support contract had to be created for a customer of mine. My boss forwarded some quickly written tasks to perform to an admin to put it in a contract. This admin carefully changed every occurance of VM by the official term VMware :-) Since then I often respond just

Re: ACM award

2010-03-31 Thread Bill Munson
Jim, You are right, that makes me mad also. IBM really blew it when they did not trade mark VM munson Jim Elliott jelli...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/30/2010 09:34 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Perfkit SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2010-03-31 Thread RPN01
Hi Bill; We have 295 CP volumes (3390 mod 27) shared between the two LPAR's, running CSE. There are an additional 15,652 volumes owned by z/OS, which we keep offline to z/VM. We run a script in AUTOLOG1 which goes through the list of volumes and makes the decision for each if it should stay

Re: DFDSS Restore ADMIN PARM

2010-03-31 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/31/2010 at 02:22 EDT, Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Couldn't your ESM just be a NOP program, just for such situations? For various values of NOP, yes. Look at Appendix D of the z/OS RACROUTE Reference. (Works the same way on z/VM.) Alan Altmark z/VM

Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Michael Coffin
When you have a fullscreen app (like XEDIT, or DMS, ISPF, etc.) doing a full-screen write to the 3270, I don't think there is any way to interrupt it to get to CMS. A couple of tricks would include sending a CP MSG from any other userid (or even a terminal with no user logged on, CP MSG is

Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Kris Buelens
Sorry to disagree: on all 3270 implementations I used (apart this OSA ICC) it was and is possible to interrupt a fullscreen appl like XEDIT. I debugged too many XEDIT macros not to be 101% sure of this. (and a few hours ago I did it again on a PCOMM TN3270 telnetted into VM TCPIP. In PCOMM, by

Contact Thomas Huegel

2010-03-31 Thread Fran Hensler
Tom Huegel used to post on this list but I haven't seen anything recently. His email address was thue...@kable.com but that does not exist anymore. Does anyone know of his new email address? /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 46 years mailto:f...@zvm.sru.edu

Re: Contact Thomas Huegel

2010-03-31 Thread McBride, Catherine
tomhue...@prodigy.net -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Fran Hensler Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Contact Thomas Huegel Tom Huegel used to post on this list but I haven't

Re: Contact Thomas Huegel

2010-03-31 Thread McBride, Catherine
tomhue...@prodigy.net or tehue...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Fran Hensler Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Contact Thomas Huegel Tom Huegel used to post on

Re: Contact Thomas Huegel

2010-03-31 Thread Bill Munson
Fran, I will send the e-mail address I have offline munson 201-418-7588 Fran Hensler f...@zvm.sru.edu Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/31/2010 10:13 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc

Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Michael Coffin
Hi Kris, Perhaps you are correct, I thought there was ONE true 3270 key that would interrupt a full-screen write - but I haven't seen it in over a decade. I use Attachmate InfoConnect (a.k.a. Extra!) TN3270 emulator and there is no way to define SYS ATTN (there is a SYS REQ, and ATTN, but no

IPGATE error with socket call

2010-03-31 Thread James Vincent
Hello everyone - has anyone using IPGATE seen an issue with IPGATE1I getting a EAGREX4000E Error 40 running compiled IPGATE1I MTREXX, line 471: Incorrect call to routine? What is happening is a remote user is writing an SFS file and receives a HCPIVK6061I APPC wait cancelled; virtual machine has

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Barton Robinson
If you go to conferences such as CMG (Computer Management Group), that has been a mainframe organization (meaning MVS or z/OS) since it started, our VM has never been represented, but VMWare now has many sessions. It's depressing to see 80 people in entry level performance session for VMWare

Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Perfkit SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2010-03-31 Thread Eginhard Jaeger
It's very probably the 15'652 z/OS volumes that caused your problems. Even when varied offline, the CP monitor will generate a configuration record of 256 bytes for each of those volumes whenever you issue a MONITOR START command. CP's default is to reserve 1/2 of the whole MONDCSS for event

acm/vmware

2010-03-31 Thread Barton Robinson
The listserv sent me a message my post didn't go out, so try again. If you go to conferences such as CMG (Computer Management Group), that has been a mainframe organization (meaning MVS or z/OS) since it started, our VM has never been represented, but VMWare now has many sessions. It's

Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/31/2010 at 06:47 EDT, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other real 3270s and like LDEV. That's a whole nutha discussion. ICC has no idea that you have logged off. Unlike 3270 printer sessions, there is

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Dave Wade
In my humble opinion the main reason VMWare (an to a lesser extent HyperV) is popular at present is because it allows bean counters to demonstrate huge instant savings. Where I work we have around 200 Windows servers, many were bought around 5 years ago so will need replacing soone. In general we

Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Perfkit SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2010-03-31 Thread Barton Robinson
very large mondcss segments do not impact performance, only small ones do. B On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:21, RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu wrote: Our MONDCSS grew, perhaps too large, while fighting this type message a long time ago. Once the problem was resolved, we didn't attempt to back off the

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Gregg
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Dave Wade g4...@dpwade.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Whilst VMWare is fun to manage, it needs managing and also capacity planning and opportunities(?), I guess, based on a background in IBM VM Perf and CapPlan, I've been given the opportunity(?) to perform VMWare

Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Perfkit SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2010-03-31 Thread David Boyes
WAVV requirement WRIBDB12 submitted to increase the default MONDCSS size to accommodate the maximum supported configuration for a VM system. -- db On 3/30/10 2:51 PM, Barton Robinson bar...@velocitysoftware.com wrote: very large mondcss segments do not impact performance, only small ones do.

Re: Contact Thomas Huegel

2010-03-31 Thread Tom Huegel
Fran, tomhue...@prodigy.net is the best way to contact me. I use tehue...@gmail.com to keep in touch with the list. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:20 AM, McBride, Catherine cmcbr...@kable.comwrote: tomhue...@prodigy.net or tehue...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM

Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Kris Buelens
Maybe the problem is that pressing Reset on an OSA ICC doesn't do anything (but that's that same on a TN3270 into VM). You say that TN3270 doesn't have an ATTN function for non-SNA. I guess that's true. But, PCOMM does allow you to assign a key to [sys attn] and it can appear on a popup panel

WAVV 2010 Requirements - Links and Cutoff Dates

2010-03-31 Thread Rich Smrcina
As David posted his note about submitting a requirement for the upcoming WAVV conference, I thought I would forward a note here about the requirements process that was sent to vse-l. Keep those cards and letters coming... *WAVV is still accepting Requirements for the 2010 conference in

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Gary M. Dennis
Less than an hour before reading this thread I had IPLed two x86 operating systems under z/VM 5.3. One is a tiny OS used as a checkpoint after major changes to the x86 virtualization layer. It's just a way to make sure the puzzle is still assembled more or less correctly. The other OS is DSL.

How to define shareabel full-pack minidisk in user directory

2010-03-31 Thread TaeMin Baek
Hi, I use z/VM v6.1 and z10 BC. I want to use shareable full-pack minidisk to share 3390 DASD without typing Volume Serial between multiple OS/390 guest. Because i often do volume initial, adding volume with vol. serial change in OS/390, i don't want to change Volume serial in user directory

Re: SLES9 zLinux on zVM

2010-03-31 Thread Magat, Martin
Hello I am not sure if this is the right forum to send this question, but kindly hoping someone has encountered the same error: When we gave a (SUSE) SLES9 zLinux guest a 50G memory (user direct entry modification), it failed to come up with the following messages: --- RAMDISK: Couldn't find

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Steele, Phil
Some of this vast proliferation of servers was indeed (in the case of the vaguely cluey users) about separation of control as Dave notes below. In my experience, though, far more often it was because the administration of the company finances found it so much easier to do a case by case

Re: SLES9 zLinux on zVM

2010-03-31 Thread Marcy Cortes
The linux-390 list might be a better place, but much of the same folks hang here and there. I just tried it (be sure you have a robust page space if you do, my system went to 10,000 pages/sec in a 1 min interval :) It fails for me with that same error for anything greater the 46G. Probably a

Re: ACM award - they deserve it....

2010-03-31 Thread Tom Huegel
Are any of the IBM OS,s trade marked? On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Steele, Phil stee...@tabcorp.com.auwrote: Some of this vast proliferation of servers was indeed (in the case of the vaguely cluey users) about separation of control as Dave notes below. In my experience, though, far more

Re: How to define shareabel full-pack minidisk in user directory

2010-03-31 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Hi Tae Min, Yes, the MDISK statement as you have coded is expects to find a volume with the label SYSPK. It is called the volid in the description of the MDISK statement, found in the CP Planning and Administration manual, and is the same as the volser you mention. The same CP Planning and Admin