Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/07/2008 at 11:00 EDT, Robert J Brenneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The vswitch counts as 1 stack on the OSA, no matter how many systems are behind > it. So yes - it gets you around the 640 stacks per OSA issue. That limitation > came from the number of subchannels you could

Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-07 Thread Bruce Hayden
I see this update in the online version of http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/ioa2z150.pdf (see p. 12): "Beginning with the May 2006 version of Licensed Internal Code on z890, z990 and z9 systems only, this restriction has been lifted. With this version of Licensed Internal Code, a layer 2 h

Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-07 Thread David Boyes
> The z9, with updated OSA microcode, can also run the OSA port in > "shared" layer 2 and layer 3 mode.. Nifty. Thanks -- one of these days I'll get my brain upgraded for more short term storage. 8-) --db

Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-07 Thread r.stricklin
On Aug 7, 2008, at 10:10 AM, Bruce Hayden wrote: The z9, with updated OSA microcode, can also run the OSA port in "shared" layer 2 and layer 3 mode.. Bruce; This would be an important feature for us. Do you know the specific OSA microcode level which is known to support it? Thanks. ok be

Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-07 Thread Bruce Hayden
The z9, with updated OSA microcode, can also run the OSA port in "shared" layer 2 and layer 3 mode.. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:16 AM, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Downside is that unless you have a z10, I don't think you can have a OSA > card in layer 3 and layer 2 mode simultaneously

Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-07 Thread David Boyes
> Does this approach get around the stack limit some way? If we try to put > 800 > machines on a VLAN, will this blow the limit referenced below? The layer 2 TYPE ETHERNET VSWITCH gets the OSA limits out of the line of fire entirely -- the OSA(s) (note multiple) servicing the VSWITCH just forward

Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-07 Thread Robert J Brenneman
The vswitch counts as 1 stack on the OSA, no matter how many systems are behind it. So yes - it gets you around the 640 stacks per OSA issue. That limitation came from the number of subchannels you could generate on the OSA chpid itself. I think it's even higher than 640 for the recent z10 and the

Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-07 Thread Gary M. Dennis
On 8/6/08 3:48 PM, "Alan Altmark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, there is (the PRIROUTER option), but who cares? Define the VSWITCH > as ETHERNET (layer 2), not IP. Does this approach get around the stack limit some way? If we try to put 800 machines on a VLAN, will this blow the limit refere

Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/06/2008 at 04:42 EDT, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Is that stack association limit correct? If this is the case, is there a > >> circumvention? Can multiple OSA adapters be associated

Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-06 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is that stack association limit correct? If this is the case, is there a >> circumvention? Can multiple OSA adapters be associated with a single VLAN? > > Use a VSWITCH, since you've already decided this is going to be run on

Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-06 Thread Gary M. Dennis
Will using VSWITCH get us around the 640 limit per OSA adapter? --. .- .-. -.-- Gary Dennis On 8/6/08 1:35 PM, "Mark Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/6/2008 at 2:24 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Gary M. Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Did I read somewhere (the

Re: OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-06 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/6/2008 at 2:24 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Gary M. Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did I read somewhere (the "where" being a place I cannot at this point > locate) that the number of IP stacks which could be associated with a single > OSA adapter was 640? That sounds right

OSA Adapter TCP/IP stack association limit?

2008-08-06 Thread Gary M. Dennis
Did I read somewhere (the "where" being a place I cannot at this point locate) that the number of IP stacks which could be associated with a single OSA adapter was 640? Running several thousand desktop systems on System z is meaningful only if those operating systems can access a (the) network. I